August 11, 2005

Owens needs an audience for his show: I listened to T.O. over and over last night. T.O. is innocent and everyone else is at fault. At least that is what he says. He's worse than a spoiled child. After the tantrum T.O. has put on so far, no NFL team with any sense would take him. Who in their right mind would chance taking T.O.? The Eagles can't keep him and they won't be able to trade him either.

posted by dbt302 to football at 10:40 PM - 47 comments

I dont think T.O. has ever heard the word, NO. Andy Reid showed resistance against his, it's all about me attitude, now he's cryin and bickering on tv about how he is the victim and he didn't do nothing wrong. T.O. needs to keep doing sit-ups before he gets whats coming to him by Dallas Cowboys strong safety Roy Williams. (which I would love to see)

posted by tuffy_earl at 01:06 AM on August 12, 2005

here we go...while i dont agreee with his baby attitude, I also know that roy williams would get leveled by T.O. Lets not lose perspective. While T.O is the biggest baby right now in the NFL.He is rock solid as a player. His come back last year was unheard of. he's a machine. he's like a robo-receiver. T.Oinator.keep it real.That big baby would stiff arm williams in is grill and keep going to the endzone. then do the ray lewis dance. lets not confuse his baby attitude with his mr olympia like body. And the fact that he is the hands down best built and most fierce wideout in the league.period.Whats even more funny, if you were toe to toe with him, you would ask for his autograph and then try to feel his biceps...keep it real

posted by lluca brazii at 01:34 AM on August 12, 2005

baltimore would take him so quick,that if they put him on the block,b-more would sign him before i pressed enter to add this post. some teams (i.e.the cowboys of the 90's and michael irvin doing crack)dont care about players attitudes. they want to win no matter what.Dont forget, this is only about t.o and money. if a contract was presented to him that he agreeded with(for the most part)he would be a happy camper and leading the entire NFL in receiving.He's a imature baby. Not a scrub player

posted by lluca brazii at 01:41 AM on August 12, 2005

The only thing T.O. can level is a 2x4. I can see it now, T.O. coming across on a slant and he's met in the middle by Williams doing what he does best, picture perfect. As far as him dancing, he did that when he was in the endzone and i dont see a whole lotta that happenin unless he straiten up his act. My question to ya brazii, can the Ravens afford T.O.

posted by tuffy_earl at 01:51 AM on August 12, 2005

i think they would make a way.perhaps they would borrow some of jamal lewis's drug money.If not, they would put something together to make him fit.T.O is slated to make 7 mil this yr.hes going to play and hes gonna play for the eagles.It doesnt much matter if you get your wish and williams levels t.o. because by the time he did, philly would already be up by 40...E.A.G.L.E.S all the way with or without him.The story is getting very old

posted by lluca brazii at 02:03 AM on August 12, 2005

I agree with ya own that the story is getting old considerin it is on the tv and the radio 24-7. In reality, i like the packers but i am a big Roy Williams fan, anybody that hits hard really. I also heard Michael Irvin got caught with a minor.

posted by tuffy_earl at 02:07 AM on August 12, 2005

I also heard Michael Irvin got caught with a minor. That's kind of just completely out of left field. OK, where did you hear that, tuffy_earl?

posted by insomnyuk at 02:30 AM on August 12, 2005

There is no comparision between Michael Irwin and TO. Michael had his faults ( cocaine but NOT CRACK )and plenty of women, but Irwin was a TEAM PLAYER. TO plays strickly for himself. Last year the NFLPA nixed his trade to Baltimore and got him Philly where he wanted to go. Now after 1 year he is unhappy again. He said he wants to play in Atlanta with Michael Vick. If that happened in another year he would be unhappy again. TO is the biggest baby in the history of the NFL. He is a cancer or poision to the team concept. Now he questioned his head coach's manhood. This guy is so far in left field.

posted by hankkh at 04:05 AM on August 12, 2005

lluca brazii, a little infatuation with T.O.? Wow. Something tells me you have more than one picture of T.O. hanging in your home. Anyways, I think the answer to T.O.'s future lies in one-year contracts. He can sign for quite a lot of money each year, then the team's not burdened with him the next spring and summer when he single-handedly makes his usual attempt to destroy the entire organization. Take your shot with him, then there will be no ties with him the next year. Obviously I know no pro football player of his caliber would ever go for this, but his act has definitely run it's course.

posted by dyams at 06:41 AM on August 12, 2005

2 problems with T.O. 1) I will play but I will not be happy. Hay dude, wake up and smell the roses. I go to work everyday and not happy with what I do. Hay T.O. why not just quit or retire. Seems to be the best thing for you anyway. You like to shoot hoops at home. This way you will LOTS of time for that. 2) Drew Rosenhouse - This guy is a leach. It seems he looks for these so called TOP players and fills these guys head with crap. Seeing Drew on TV last night was a joke. Hay Drew - want to take my sons on and try to get big money for them now - they are only 10 & 13 - gives ya a few years to relly make an ass out of yourself.

posted by favrefan4ever at 07:09 AM on August 12, 2005

Hay is for horses.

posted by lil_brown_bat at 07:13 AM on August 12, 2005

Has Jeff Garcia made any comments about this? I know he always took the high road, but he has to be feeling a little vindication.

posted by usfbull at 08:00 AM on August 12, 2005

2 words , spell checker . poision ? straiten up? hay ? relly ? must have been a tough night .

posted by evil empire at 08:24 AM on August 12, 2005

First of all...let's all come back to reality. T.O. is a disgrace to the game. I'm not singling him out because now-a-days, there are plenty of pro athletes I'd like to give an ear-full. But he, by far, is one of the most cocky, arrogant players in the game. Granted, like some of you are saying...he's a solid athlete and has a hell of a knack for the game. If only he'd make full use of it instead of letting his head prevent him from playing to his potential. Regardless of whether you like him or not, he puts up numbers...but in the end, if you're not in it for the love of the game (but for money)...what are you there for? Everyone has gotta make a living but PLEASE. NO ONE needs more money than he was makin before the salary increase demand. I'm so fed up with these guys never being satisfied. As a kid growin up I envied and adored pro athletes because they made a living doing what they love to do, something that their heart is in. But more and more players take it for granted. Hell, I'd love to be able to play my sport and get paid millions for it, who wouldn't? But it seems like its no longer for the love of the game...its all $$$. That's a shame, and when T.O. says things like "They don't pay me to be nice" or "They don't pay me to talk to people"...come on. It's time to step back and take a look at the big picture. Nobody can even stay in one city for a lengthy time anymore...jerseys become throw backs in record timing. I watched Emmit Smith stick with the cowboys for over a decade and never once did you hear him whine about pay cuts or not makin enough. He's old, hurt often, but he's still out there...simply FOR THE LOVE OF THE GAME. That's what's missing.

posted by klipp26 at 08:30 AM on August 12, 2005

What's the chance TO is acting this way just to piss off the Eagles enough to get a trade done ? Ok, he wanted more money which the Eagles will not do , so just be such a distraction to get yourself traded .

posted by evil empire at 08:53 AM on August 12, 2005

2 words , spell checker Hey evil, youíre right. Itís unfortunately that this board doesnít have a spell checker. Iím such a pooor speler I usually write my comments in Word and then copy them to the board. Having said that, Iíd still rather see a poorly spelled comment that has a semblance of logic than one where every word is spelled correctly but is a total piece of shit.

posted by tommysands at 09:00 AM on August 12, 2005

I think that's exactly what he is doing, empire. But, he has to realize that the flip side is that he is hurting his trade value by being portrayed as a team cancer.

posted by bperk at 09:00 AM on August 12, 2005

what's the chance he's just one of those athletes who can't play for anyone? San Fran was glad to get rid of his attitude...T.O. comes to the Eagles and puts Donovan in the shadows, which is hard to do considering how much hype surrounded McNabb. They were supposed to be the most lethal collaboration in the NFL and instead, Owens couldn't get over himself having to share the spotlight and destroyed it. T.O. won't be happy regardless of where he goes. He had the best opportunity being put on the Eagles go in and try to get them over that hump to have a shot at a Superbowl. Why wouldn't he be happy? He just doesn't know how to capitalize because figure$ get in the way. When you're not a team player its hard to survive in any franchize. T.O. loves him some drama and it'll follow him WHEREVER he goes.

posted by klipp26 at 09:05 AM on August 12, 2005

Sigh. I'll pick up some more sandbags on my lunch.

posted by DrJohnEvans at 09:24 AM on August 12, 2005

Better for cows.

posted by yerfatma at 09:46 AM on August 12, 2005

So, do you still draft him for your fantasy team?

posted by mick at 10:06 AM on August 12, 2005

Despite all that he has achieved, I still don't understand why anyone would want this a**hole on their team. He just brings everyone down. I feel bad for the players in the locker room who have to deal with him.

posted by tina at 10:58 AM on August 12, 2005

How dumb do you have to be to think that any of this is going to get you a new contract? Not to mention, how are you going to continue to make your case for a new contract by out-performing your current one when you've alienated your headcoach, your offensive coordinator, and the quarterback who's supposed to throw you the ball? It just seems like horrible business sense. It would make more sense to come in, be a good teammate, catch even more passes, score even more touchdowns, win the whole thing and then speak up again next offseason. But then again, I'm not a reciever worth $7 million, so what do I know. Do you really think there's a team out there going "Oh Man! we gotta' get that guy!"? (outside of the Raiders, of course)

posted by srw12 at 11:03 AM on August 12, 2005

srw12, funny you should mention the Raiders. Is it my imagination or do the majority of players who are having trouble getting along on their teams seem to gravitate to the Raiders? It'd be almost funny if TO wound up in the same backfield as Randy Moss under painfully similar circumstances.

posted by alumshubby at 11:38 AM on August 12, 2005

What this is going to accomplish is T.O. being suspended for the year. If Tampa can send Keyshawn home, Philly can send T.O. home too. Maybe a year without pay and collecting unemployment will straighten T.O. out. Keeping T.O. is going to split the team apart. Suspending him might lead to a not so great record but it might be better in the long run.

posted by dbt302 at 11:39 AM on August 12, 2005

About T.O. The best thing that can be done about that guy is simply ignore him. write the jerk off. Football is a team game and nobody supercedes the whole, nobody. But give the frigging media a chance and they suck up to that guy like a bee to honey. Its pathetic. Its time we put these primodonna's away. Lets play football.

posted by silas10pony at 11:46 AM on August 12, 2005

Pigs would eat it . . .

posted by yerfatma at 11:51 AM on August 12, 2005

To klipp26. You got it right. Last night did you see Tomlinson being interviewed? He said what makes a player great is his heart. He's a real humble dude and a damn fine running back to say the least. He got it right, and you could hear his voice and just know that he meant every word he said. I thought it made T.O. look like an ass.

posted by silas10pony at 11:56 AM on August 12, 2005

Maybe a year without pay and collecting unemployment will straighten T.O. out If T.O. starts collecting unemployment then I give up . As for straightening him out , it'll ever happen . At his age still acting like a child , it's deeply rooted in his psyche . Once he demanded a trade from SF 49ers and then refused the trade made to Baltimore till he ended up in Philly , he felt power . After having a great season last year going all the way to the Super Bowl, his head swelled to the point he was the whole team . In case he forgot , the Eagles made it to the championship game without him playing at all .

posted by evil empire at 11:56 AM on August 12, 2005

How dumb do you have to be to think that any of this is going to get you a new contract? While I was stunned yesterday watching Drew Rosenhaus sit and let T.O. ramble like a schizo on the subway, I don't think it's impossible that T.O. will get a contract (somewhere) out of this. If he were in Green Bay, no way. But Phill's enough of an East Coast market that the fan base might take this problem out on the team, leaving them in the uncomfortable position of either: 1. Benching him for the year and missing the playoffs during the middle of the current team's run. 2. Trading him for ten cents on the dollar. 3. Paying him and screwing themselves (and other teams in the league). I know the Eagles have taken a hard line so far, but that's an easier position to maintain in August than November. On preview, I have to agree with evil empire's analysis of TO right now. I honestly thought he was a really savvy media player until this week. Now he just looks nuts (though mad props for doing an interview shirtless between situps).

posted by yerfatma at 11:59 AM on August 12, 2005

I have been a Niner fan since 1975 and I was never happier than when Owens packed up and moved out. At this point there are a lot of other teams that would pick him up, but only for a season. That's as long as it takes for him to start spreading his cancer in the locker room. Eventually Owens will wear out his welcome in the NFL with too many burned bridges and too many hard feelings with other players. Ty Cobb was one of the best baseball players ever to play the game, but he was also one of the most hated. How many statues or movies of Ty Cobb are there? How many times do you hear his name mentioned? The guy was an SOB that died without a single person around him or at his funeral. Owens is well on his way to Ty Cobb status. More and more teams will decide his antics are not worth the talent.

posted by irunfromclones at 12:01 PM on August 12, 2005

Maybe he wants to get a deal like Keyshawn who got suspended with pay, then he wouldn't have to worry about injury. At this point he is not even worrying about getting a deal next year. I have never believed that Philadelphia was going to pay him the $7+ million dollar roster bonus due after this year. He probably doesn't think he will get it either. So, he acts like a moron to force Philadelphia's hand one way or the other. I haven't forgot about his Super Bowl performance and I imagine lots of GMs haven't either. He will find a home if Philadelphia doesn't want him.

posted by bperk at 12:02 PM on August 12, 2005

There are signs outside Royston, Georgia stating it was the home of Ty Cobb. No statues though.

posted by dbt302 at 12:22 PM on August 12, 2005

yerfatma ESPN said Owens majored in marketing at Tenn-Chattanooga, must be he was actually listening in class .

posted by evil empire at 12:27 PM on August 12, 2005

IF Philly keeps him, maybe McNabb needs to start calling crossing paterns for T.O. and throw high every time. Maybe he'll get the message. Also Evil Empire are you an English teacher??? Who gives a shit about spelling and punktuation??? Must make you feel superior to everyone because I see you grade a couple of posts per week.. Lighten up dude.. I did'nt know this was your personal property........

posted by maclmn at 01:29 PM on August 12, 2005

Well, things will calm down for a while. T.O. has gone to the Bahamas to get a tan. Only T.O. would say that.

posted by dbt302 at 01:40 PM on August 12, 2005

HEY maclmn I mentioned it jokingly but if it hit a nerve with you then maybe you need to lighten up . Spelling such basic words as hey , poison and really should come very easy . And I too mispelled two words in here just by missing a key so no , I don't feel superior . Also there's at least two people in most every thread who have mentioned bad use of english , punctuation and grammar so dont be crushing my nuts over this . MY GOD some of you people need to get back on your Ritalin .

posted by evil empire at 02:02 PM on August 12, 2005

It depends, one would suppose, on how one is taught to play the game. I was shown that actions speak louder than words, especially on the field of play. T.O., when given his kudos, does in fact deliver the punch. I just hate to see a great player hamstring himself by forgetting the inevitable rule of life: What goes around comes around... or, you get back what you give out. Arrogance will always be dealt a telling blow, and the conceit by which one lives eventually focuses all eyes to the moment when a "T.O." is laid low. Instead of the cheering crowds wishing T.O. a fond farewell after he retires, or old men telling their grandsons about the wondrous feats of athletic daring, they will simply say, "He was just a big showboat!" That, in the end, is the tragedy about such attitudes. On the other hand, I enjoy watching, week in and week out during the season, Andre Johnson of the Texans; he not only delivers the punch, but he allows his actions to do all of his talking as he quietly strides, year after year, for the hall of fame.

posted by GalLiTeR at 02:05 PM on August 12, 2005

punktuation??? The horror...the horror.

posted by The_Black_Hand at 02:21 PM on August 12, 2005

Did someone say RITALIN?

posted by tb_mitchell at 03:34 PM on August 12, 2005

Ok, Ok, everybody needs to lighten up. Everybody to my place for Daquaris. We'll call the, "T.O., PLEASE go to the bahamas" party. Be sure to wear your Hawaian shirt. PS T.O., you're not invited.

posted by tb_mitchell at 03:45 PM on August 12, 2005

Terrel has said that he doesn't need to communicate because he knows the westcoast offense,but it seems to me that you still some communication with quarterback for improvements or any changes.Mcnabb by now knows how jeff garcia felt.

posted by felville at 03:52 PM on August 12, 2005

Donovan McNabb had a classy press conference on ESPN where he laughed off all of Owens remarks . He did take exception to TO saying McNabb had his brother call a friend of Owens to get this all hashed out . Donovan said he didn't want family members brought into this seeing how they play no role in any of this . He also said they don't need to talk or be friends just as long as they perform each weekend as a team . Shows who's got class and who's just a whiney, thug wanna-be . As McNabb said it's just like a soap opera with TO around .

posted by evil empire at 04:12 PM on August 12, 2005

Well, at least TO hasn't openly questioned McNabb's sexuality yet. McNabb said the same thing about not needing to communicate with TO. I assume they mean about nothing other than football.

posted by bperk at 04:13 PM on August 12, 2005

McNabb got married a year or so ago , TO missed out on that slam .

posted by evil empire at 04:17 PM on August 12, 2005

McNabb was explicit about there being no need for communication except about football. Clearly, there's no love lost between them, and McNabb did a great job at the press conference today of sticking to his guns and keeping the rest of the team as his top priority. Donovan was left with no reasonable path to take aside from the high road here. What else was he supposed to do or say aside from what he did?

posted by chicobangs at 04:20 PM on August 12, 2005

This is kind of a twist on the subject but if memory serves me right , Jim McMahon wasn't liked too well by his Bears teammates but ran the team successfully . I'm pretty sure he didn't have much to say outside of football to them either .

posted by evil empire at 05:19 PM on August 12, 2005

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