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April 09, 2007
NHL Playoffs Confidence Pool: You know you want it.
If the Devil Danced in Empty Pockets, He'd Have a Ball in Mine is in. Thanks for setting this up.
posted by NoMich at 02:24 PM on April 09, 2007
Just nice to be invited. Thanks.
posted by tahoemoj at 04:07 PM on April 09, 2007
Great another chance at redemption....
posted by skydivedad at 07:24 PM on April 09, 2007
I'm in, thanks q.
posted by HATER 187 at 09:12 PM on April 09, 2007
I have two entries; one for my heart, one for my head.
posted by grum@work at 09:56 PM on April 09, 2007
You don't want to know where I pulled my picks from...
posted by MrFrisby at 10:23 PM on April 09, 2007
thanks! I set one up for alt.sports.hockey.nhl.vanc-canucks as well, the throwback NG of good manners and intense canuckleheading. Super-easy to set up, thanks in advance for the fun.
posted by rumple at 11:15 PM on April 09, 2007
I have two entries; one for my heart, one for my head. Pick one, please.
posted by qbert72 at 09:30 AM on April 10, 2007
I have 65,536 entries. I like to cover my permutations.
posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 10:40 AM on April 10, 2007
Pick one, please. Fine. I'll go with my "head" selections. I have 65,536 entries. I like to cover my permutations. Personally, if you were able to enter all those selections before the playoffs started, I'd be quite willing to let you have them.
posted by grum@work at 11:34 AM on April 10, 2007
Geez, Weedy, isn't it enough that you cracked skulls in the Yahoo hockey thing? (Of course, I heard you cheated by utilizing the highly controversial SHP category.)
posted by The Crafty Sousepaw at 12:28 PM on April 10, 2007
Thank you, thank you. I feel my ownership of SHP was more than offset by my terrible result in PIMs. The real tragedy is that I should be two-time champion right now - but managed my rookie season badly enough to run out of games with more than 2 weeks to go. Frankly, next season I'm voting for a more simple array of stats. Maybe stick to G, A, PPP, GWG and W, SVs, SV%. Perhaps one of +/-, PIMs and/or SHP for a 'wildcard' category. Less is more, I feel.
posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 12:53 PM on April 10, 2007
I'll go with my "head" selections. Noted. I'll leave your "heart" picks in, but they won't count for trophy consideration, in fairness to all the others. Less is more, I feel. Agreed. GWG are an awful stat, though. Congratulations from the no-longer-defending champ, Weedy!
posted by qbert72 at 01:48 PM on April 10, 2007
Thank you sir. I can only hope to wear the crown with as much dignity and pride as you did. Plus, I'll likely gloat way more. Yeah - GWG is another crapshoot stat - but at least it was closely contested. I mean - if you had good goal scorers on your team, you were likely to be competitive in terms of GWGs. But hey, if we want to drop that category too, I can dig it. I just think it's best to have at least one more stat than goaltending (possibly two), so the pool isn't dominated by goalies.
posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 02:32 PM on April 10, 2007
If you really want a "less is more" league: G, A, W, SV. Done. Those are the things that make a difference in the actual game. I don't understand the use of PPP, which basically says that a goal made on a power play is twice as valuable as a goal made skating even. GWG is a terrible stat to me, since it is more a measure of the player's team than the player himself. Shots per game or goals per shot might be interesting if you want an offensive ratio stat. On the goalie side, I would actually rather see saves per game than SV% since it rewards having good goalies who also get regular playing time (though maybe there is too much reward for goalies on teams with poor defenses). But I'm a rookie at this fantasy hockey thing, so take all that for what it's worth.
posted by The Crafty Sousepaw at 03:16 PM on April 10, 2007
Perhaps one of +/-, PIMs and/or SHP for a 'wildcard' category. i would probably go with PIM since it seems to be one of the few stats that would give a 3rd or 4th d-man some value, no? also, i think i read somewhere that Yahoo was considering getting rid of the GWG stat for next year.
posted by goddam at 03:58 PM on April 10, 2007
But hey, if we want to drop that category too, I can dig it. I just think it's best to have at least one more stat than goaltending (possibly two), so the pool isn't dominated by goalies. Shhh! Don't say that! Dominating the goaltending stats is how I've finished in the medals all 4 seasons of the pool. Not only did I draft two great goalies (Turco, Brodeur), but I even picked up the top goalie in GAA and SV% off the waiver scrapheap (Backstrom)! I would definitely dump the wild-card stats (SHP, GWG) and keep PIM (to provide value for the #3 and #4 defencemen). GAA and Saves would be the two goalie stats I would like to see kept (as wins is more a product of the team than the player, and having one rate stat and one counting stat stops someone from gaming the system).
posted by grum@work at 05:07 PM on April 10, 2007
G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP; SV, SV%, W, SO Wanna end goalie domination? Only allow one goalie spot per roster.
posted by The_Black_Hand at 07:02 PM on April 10, 2007
Wanna end goalie domination? Only allow one goalie spot per roster. posted by The_Black_Hand at 7:02 PM CDT on April 10 I think the Yahoo default setting is 2 goalies and I don't believe that can be changed but I might be wrong. Congrats to Sir Weedy for his outstanding performance. He is indeed a Quality Champion that replaced the prior Quality Champion. I'll play with whatever stats you guys decide. I'm more concerned that goalie stats make up 40% of the scoring. Doesn't matter to me which stats are used to accomplish that. IMHO the Goalie stats being at 36.7% of scoring this year isn't a proper representation of what they mean in the Real NHL. OK, Rant over. Bring on the Playoffs and at least the Blackhawks managed to win the lottery for #1 Draft Pick! I'm sure they'll find a way to screw it up however. Kinda how I played in the Fantasy League.
posted by skydivedad at 07:40 PM on April 10, 2007
as wins is more a product of the team than the player Is that true? I haven't done a study of it but, like wins for a pitcher, I have been under the impression that wins are a pretty good measure of the quality of the goalie (even if that result is sometimes incidental). You don't see too many great goalies missing the playoffs. It may not be a totally true measure, but what measure of individual achievement in a team sport could possibly be perfect?
posted by The Crafty Sousepaw at 08:51 PM on April 10, 2007
don't go touching SHP. I won that category. PPP was the one that held me back. So, obviously, let's lose that one. And really, this discussion should take place in a real lockerroom there wherein we can properly give Weedy the hurrahs.
posted by gspm at 09:15 PM on April 10, 2007
Standings are up to date. If anyone wants to help with these, please shoot me an email (address is in my profile). It would be very much appreciated, as I'm fairly busy these days.
posted by qbert72 at 09:59 AM on April 12, 2007
Dear everyone: I'm sorry that as Commissioner I didn't put together a final poolie post (I've spent the last month or so trying to keep my job instead of paying attention to the things that matter, like Spofi, the Wednesday trivia night, and my once-promising career as a volunteer alcoholic), but congratulations to Senor McSmokey are definitely in order.
posted by chicobangs at 10:44 AM on April 12, 2007
There were at least two other hockey pools that need posted too. Like the head-to-head league, where I straight up murdered TBH's ass.
posted by MrFrisby at 11:15 AM on April 12, 2007
woo, #1! On day one. Only way to go is down.
posted by mkn at 02:21 PM on April 12, 2007
Like the head-to-head league, where I straight up murdered TBH's ass. And yet, we're talking about this one, where I finished ahead of you. That is some weird, wild stuff.
posted by The_Black_Hand at 04:28 PM on April 12, 2007
Touché, but it was the fantasy points league that you finished ahead of me. Stole that bronze medal from me on the last week of the season. Well played sir, well played.
posted by MrFrisby at 05:59 PM on April 12, 2007
The SpoFi Collective is in. Heavy favorite: Buffalo, with an average 14,78 points. Wild underdog: Islanders, with an average of 2,16 points. Solid contenders (averages between 10 and 12): Ducks, Wings, Preds, Devils. One step below (between 8 and 10): Canucks, Rangers, Senators, Penguins, Sharks. The other teams are bunched up around 6 points. If the Sabres tank and the Islanders go far, skydivemom will kill us all. Thanks to apoch for offering his help with results entry.
posted by qbert72 at 07:07 PM on April 12, 2007
I think I'm already out of it. Go Canes?
posted by The_Black_Hand at 06:13 AM on April 13, 2007
I have another Costanza in my crosshairs! I'ma get yo ass, SummersEve! (If grum's-head goes on a tear, could he both win and lose? Would that even count?)
posted by chicobangs at 10:14 AM on April 13, 2007
Yeah, in retrospect, the Flames and Penguins in the finals might have been a stupid pick.
posted by SummersEve at 10:24 AM on April 13, 2007
You picked calGARY and the former Fort Duquesne in the Finals? What a douche! (hee heeeeee)
posted by NoMich at 10:36 AM on April 13, 2007
the Flames and Penguins in the finals might have been a stupid pick There's only one game played. Patience. If grum's-head goes on a tear, could he both win and lose? Would that even count? grum chose his head. So his heart is out of the running for trophies.
posted by qbert72 at 11:55 AM on April 13, 2007
Calgary's not out of the question as a pick - although they sure forgot to show up yesterday. Frankly, I think I have seriously underestimated Vancouver. That could be a huge mistake. I feel like Krusty in the episode where the mob wanted to kill him over bad bets: "I thought the Generals (Turco) were due!! Oh, c'mon, he's spinning the ball on his fingers - just TAKE IT!!"
posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 01:00 PM on April 13, 2007
What happens if the Spofi Collective wins? Do we all get trophies?
posted by HATER 187 at 02:35 PM on April 13, 2007
At least you gave them 7 points, Weedy. I gave 'em a lousy 3. Yeesh!
posted by NoMich at 02:43 PM on April 13, 2007
What happens if the Spofi Collective wins? Do we all get trophies? Actually, I think Jeff Friesen gets the trophy in this case.
posted by NoMich at 02:44 PM on April 13, 2007
if i get another costanza i think i'm going to cry.
posted by goddam at 12:02 PM on April 14, 2007
Don't worry, goddam. The Rangers will save you from Costanzaland when they win it all. Then you can finish... right behind me. Because. You. Didn't. Pick. Them. To. Win. Shame, shame, shame.
posted by The Crafty Sousepaw at 12:18 PM on April 15, 2007
This is rather depressing, missing two pools at once.
posted by Ying Yang Mafia at 02:18 PM on April 15, 2007
Send me your picks, YYM.
posted by qbert72 at 03:24 PM on April 15, 2007
crafty, whenever i go with my heart and pick my team to go all the way bad things happen. so i'll take a second place in the pool for a rangers cup any day.
posted by goddam at 07:00 PM on April 15, 2007
Standings are up to date with all this weekends NHL action.
posted by apoch at 11:44 PM on April 15, 2007
No, no, no. These standings are all wrong. I can't be that bad. Kindly amend.
posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 08:12 PM on April 16, 2007
grum's heart is failing him.
posted by mkn at 11:20 PM on April 16, 2007
grum's heart is failing him. My heart will go on.
posted by grum@work at 11:35 PM on April 16, 2007
Standings (same link as 4 posts up) are up to date with Monday's games.
posted by apoch at 05:19 AM on April 17, 2007
My faith in the Wings will be rewarded.
posted by Ying Yang Mafia at 05:42 AM on April 18, 2007
Jebus help me! This weekend I was in the top 10, now I'm down to 21. Could whomever is presently in the Costanza position please throw a mattress on the floor? I'm about to hit your position hard.
posted by NoMich at 12:25 PM on April 18, 2007
OK - I just now checked this thread after I checked NHL.com to see if the first round was finished or what. I totally guessed on all my picks. And I'm in 2nd place. I think that Calgary pick is not going to work out so great in the long run, though.
posted by mbd1 at 03:07 PM on April 18, 2007
^ Patience. All Calgary needs to do is win its home games and steal just one game on the road.
posted by mkn at 03:45 PM on April 18, 2007
Standings are up to date with all of Thursday's games. NY Visiting teams 6, NY Home Teams 6. Unfortunately for the Thrashers, the Rangers brought their brooms and are the first team to make it to the second round.
posted by apoch at 02:40 AM on April 19, 2007
It was great seeing Kovalpunk and Hartley get swept by the Rangers.
posted by NoMich at 06:47 AM on April 19, 2007
Standings up to date with Thursday's games. Both the Ducks and the Senators moved to the second round with three point margin of victories and three more games one than lost in their series.
posted by apoch at 02:37 AM on April 20, 2007
I wish I would have read closer when I posted. Jeez.. "three more games won than lost.
posted by apoch at 03:55 AM on April 20, 2007
Somebody please pick up the bribe money that keeps falling out of the Calgarys refs' pockets.
posted by wingnut4life at 04:46 AM on April 20, 2007
Here I come to save the dayyyyyy!!!! I'm not saying I'm a genius or anything, but the facts certainly point to that conclusion: Pittsburgh - outmatched. Like the baby Oilers found out - You got get punched in the face before you learn to walk, or some shit. Minny - thanks for coming out. Atlanta - next time, plan to come out. Wankers. Now when Calgary and Dallas complete their inevitable comebacks I will be suitably lauded for my geniusifity.
posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 08:29 AM on April 20, 2007
My faith has been rewarded!
posted by Ying Yang Mafia at 10:43 AM on April 23, 2007
Fucking dick for brains! I gave Nashville 15 fucking points!
posted by NoMich at 02:46 PM on April 23, 2007
I wasn't quite that confident, I gave the Preds 14 points. At least you gave the Sharks 7 points, I only gave them 5. Fucking Atlanta, I gave them 7 points and they couldn't even win one lousy fucking game.
posted by MrFrisby at 03:07 PM on April 23, 2007
I gave Atlanta 1 point. Definitely my best pick. Penguins at 16 is bad, though.
posted by qbert72 at 06:02 PM on April 23, 2007
Ooh boy, I also gave Vancouver only a few points. Yeesh. Well, go Dallas, I guess.
posted by NoMich at 06:49 PM on April 23, 2007
Is it too early to climb upon my dunghill to crow? About calling the Nashville demise back in January? About winning the first round? in both contests? Anyway, just a little bravado, gotta give em' somethin to hate. Thanks to all for setting these pools up, it's been lots of fun to participate.
posted by tahoemoj at 01:39 PM on April 24, 2007
I forgot to tell everyone that Weedy made my picks for me.
posted by SummersEve at 05:41 AM on April 27, 2007
My faith will be rewarded!
posted by Ying Yang Mafia at 07:48 PM on April 27, 2007
Somebody is really slacking on the update. If you need help, my addy is in the profile.
posted by MrFrisby at 03:04 PM on May 01, 2007
I know I want it, anyway. I need revenge for my poor showing in this year's Fantasy League.