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MetaFilter User Proposes New Site Called 'Sportsfilter'

(It seems I have a very large "top of my head".)

posted by grum@work at 03:02 PM on July 03, 2014

MetaFilter User Proposes New Site Called 'Sportsfilter'

Just off the top of my head...

For each tournament, the top 5 spots are awarded the following points:

1st = (6 * C) points
2nd = (5 * C) points
3rd = (4 * C) points
4th = (3 * C) points
5th = (2 * C) points

Everyone that participates in the tournament (for every round, if it is a multi-round pick'em) gets (1 * C) points.

C = the number of fully qualified competitors at the end of the tournament.

So if 12 people enter, but only 9 play all the way through, C = 9, and first place is worth 54 points.

(Side note: I'll let other people decide what happens if someone finishes in the top 5 but doesn't play in every round.)

This rewards success but also promotes participation (and repeated visits for each round of a tournament).

Now, for things that take place over the span of multiple months, maybe those get an extra weighting on them. Finishing first in the World Cup confidence pool only takes a one-time input, but finishing first in the CFL pick-em pool takes months of participation, so it should get extra weight for that.

Maybe another multiplier could be used based on how many rounds of picks? World Cup = 1, but NFL regular season pick'em would be = 18.
(Or a sliding scale so winning one tournament doesn't basically win the whole year long competition.)

What would need to be established is a set of ground rules:

1) At least 1 week's notice before the start of the pool. It's not fair to announce a pool the day before it starts. Give people a chance to enter.

2) All pools must be listed on the side bar with their start date.

3) The rules have to be pretty straight forward.

4) The competitions have to be run from the SpoFi site. I don't like the idea of forcing people to enter contests on 3rd-party sites. Let's keep it simple like weekly/round pick'ems and confidence pools.

posted by grum@work at 02:59 PM on July 03, 2014

Favorites or Likes for comments?

I'd prefer that people "vote up" posts, not comments. That way, on the front page, you can see that people might not have commented on the post, but showed an interest in the story/link that was posted.

So is writing a '+1' comment is the recommendation?

Oh, please don't do this. The last thing I want to do is scroll through 15 "+1" comments to get to the next REAL comment that discusses the post (or someone else's comment).

If there has to be a method of showing you like a comment, then a "+" beside the comment that people could click would be fine by me. Only positive reinforcement, if we have to do it.

The only problem I have is that it might limit people's interaction on the site. Instead of posting a comment like "I agree with Howard_T, and here's why...", people might simply click the "positive" button beside Howard_T's comment and be done with it. If that happens, we lose another potential talking point/interesting reason/story.

Finally, a running total of "+" suddenly becomes a scoring system that people will begin to use as a form of judgement on that person or their comments.

posted by grum@work at 12:24 PM on October 26, 2012

Question About Armstrong Post

llb: From your comment, I'm guessing you didn't read the article (since you'd know if it was a quote or not). Like tahoemoj says, it's not editorializing if it's a fact.

posted by grum@work at 11:41 PM on September 04, 2012

Too Much Penn State?


If you have access to the database, is there any way to get a tabulated list of the front page posts for the past 10 years? I'm curious which teams/people/sports get the most discussions.

posted by grum@work at 02:05 PM on July 23, 2012

Lord, we're an awfully sentimental lot, eh?

Actually, I meant a link to a 10-year old SpoFi article/comment section.

posted by grum@work at 10:41 AM on February 17, 2012

Lord, we're an awfully sentimental lot, eh?

Maybe part of the Daily Huddle should be a link to an article from that date 10 years ago.

For example, we were (sorta) talking about Kari Traa's magazine cover on February 11th, 2002.

posted by grum@work at 09:39 PM on February 11, 2012

Back button don't work with Chrome


posted by grum@work at 12:36 PM on January 27, 2012

Politics and Sports

the Pantheon erred in not deleting the Obama vacation tangent the moment it appeared

Of course, if you delete the tangent the moment it appeared, you'd feed the fanatical belief that you are stomping on his "First Amendment Rights" (however misguided and incorrect that may be), and "burying the truth about Nazi-Socialist-Liberal Obama" (however hilarious that may seem).

I prefer to see the stupidity out in the open, where it can be openly mocked and ridiculed. But then the thread devolves very quickly into a political/fact pissing match.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

posted by grum@work at 09:59 AM on January 12, 2012

Guess No One Else Previews

I haven't noticed that problem with the preview option.

Firefox 5.0, Win7

Just ran a test again and I had no problem with previewing a (fake) post I was going to make. The link title showed up.

posted by grum@work at 10:06 PM on July 23, 2011

Hockey! Hockey! Hockey!

Break up the Leafs!

It took them 14 games to get this many wins last year...

posted by grum@work at 10:24 AM on October 10, 2010

FPP Yanked?

Or a forgotten movie.

posted by grum@work at 10:33 AM on June 25, 2010

World Cup Talk

I'll only be able to view the Saturday/Sunday matches somewhat live, but the rest will be PVR'd for that evening.

posted by grum@work at 08:33 AM on June 04, 2010

Want to Close the Locker Room?

Keep the Locker Room.

The fantasy stuff should stay in here because the subject turnover is slower, and it's easier to track. A sidebar that points to any/all fantasy subjects in Locker Room would be a better idea.

posted by grum@work at 12:58 PM on May 19, 2010

SportsFilter Turns 8

My only regret on SpoFi?
Not waiting a couple more weeks before writing this column.

That last line is a doozy...

posted by grum@work at 08:52 AM on January 27, 2010

SportsFilter Turns 8

How old is SpoFi?

Terrell Owens was playing in San Francisco when SpoFi started up.

posted by grum@work at 09:10 PM on January 25, 2010

Greatest Teams Of All Time?

By that, I mean, actual teams that played together (for one game/contest/match or more) in a competitive environment with the goal of winning the game/contest/match.

Oops, I kind of missed those criteria.

No, yours makes the list. The Eskimos were a legitimate team (not some year end "all-star" team that only plays one game against another "all-star" team, where no one seems to give a damn about the outcome).

As for the basketball one, I think the idea of the 1992 Dream Team playing the 1958 Celtics in a 81 game season would be AWESOME. I would have picked the Dream Team as the best of all time (basketball), but hincandenza presents a very good case for the Celtics being the best ever.

As a challenge to the 1987 Canada Cup squad I suggested, I guess the 1977 Montreal Canadiens (9 HOF players), 1957 Montreal Canadiens (8 HOF players) or 1968 Montreal Canadiens (8 HOF players) would be the equivalent of the dynasty Celtics (in hockey).

posted by grum@work at 12:54 AM on January 09, 2010

Greatest Teams Of All Time?

Canadian Football:

Edmonton Eskimos (ca. 1977 thru 1982)

As there are no all-star teams in the CFL, and there hasn't been another team that has been as dominating, I have no problem agreeing with that assessment.

posted by grum@work at 04:26 PM on January 08, 2010

Greatest Teams Of All Time?

The Soviet team from the 1987 Canada Cup was a monster as well (making that 3-game final series between Canada and USSR the best hockey ever played, in my opinion).

Fetisov, Gusarov, Kasatonov, Kravchuk, Krutov, Lomakin, Larionov, Kamensky, Semak, Nemchinov, Makarov, and Semenov all came over to play in the NHL at some point in their careers.

The Fetisov, Kasatonov, Krutov, Larionov, Makarov group of 5 were DEFINITELY NHL all-star (or even HOF) level during their primes.

posted by grum@work at 03:24 PM on January 08, 2010

Greatest Teams Of All Time?

By that, I mean, actual teams that played together (for one game/contest/match or more) in a competitive environment with the goal of winning the game/contest/match.

In most cases, it would be things like national teams or all-star teams.

My suggestion for the greatest ice hockey team ever assembled would be the 1987 Canada Cup team from Canada.
I've listed every member of the team, by position, Name, birth place, professional team at the time, and achievements.

HOF = eventually Hall of Fame member
AS = number of all-star game appearances
SC = number of Stanley Cups won
Aw = number of individual NHL awards/trophies won

F Glenn Anderson Vancouver, BC Edmonton Oilers (HOF, 4 AS, 6 SC)
D Ray Bourque Saint-Laurent, Quebec Boston Bruins (HOF, 19 AS, 1 SC, 7 Aw)
D Paul Coffey Weston, Ontario Edmonton Oilers (HOF, 14 AS, 4 SC, 3 Aw)
D Doug Crossman Peterborough, Ontario Philadelphia Flyers (-)
F Kevin Dineen Quebec City, Quebec Hartford Whalers (2 AS)
G Grant Fuhr Spruce Grove, Alberta Edmonton Oilers (HOF, 6 AS, 4 SC, 2 Aw)
F Mike Gartner Ottawa, Ontario Washington Capitals (HOF, 7 AS)
F Doug Gilmour Kingston, Ontario St. Louis Blues (1 SC, 2 AS, 1 Aw)
F Michel Goulet Pribonka, Quebec Quebec Nordiques (HOF, 5 AS)
F Wayne Gretzky Brantford, Ontario Edmonton Oilers (HOF, 4 SC, 18 AS, 31 Aw)
D Craig Hartsburg Stratford, Ontario Minnesota North Stars (3 AS)
F Dale Hawerchuk Toronto, Ontario Winnipeg Jets (HOF, 5 AS, 1 Aw)
G Ron Hextall Brandon, Manitoba Philadelphia Flyers (1 AS, 2 Aw)
G Kelly Hrudey Edmonton, Alberta New York Islanders (-)
F Claude Lemieux Buckingham, Quebec Montreal Canadiens (4 SC, 1 Aw)
F Mario Lemieux Montreal, Quebec Pittsburgh Penguins (HOF, 2 SC, 10 AS, 17 Aw)
F Mark Messier Edmonton, Alberta Edmonton Oilers (HOF, 6 SC, 15 AS, 5 Aw)
D Larry Murphy Scarborough, Ontario Washington Capitals (HOF, 4 SC, 3 AS)
D James Patrick Winnipeg, Manitoba New York Rangers (-)
F Brian Propp Lanigan, Saskatchewan Philadelphia Flyers (5 AS)
D Normand Rochefort Quebec City, Quebec Quebec Nordiques (-)
F Brent Sutter Viking, Alberta New York Islanders (2 SC, 1 AS)
F Rick Tocchet Scarborough, Ontario Philadelphia Flyers (1 SC, 4 AS)

In summary:
11 players made the Hall of Fame.
124 appearances in an all-star game.
39 Stanley Cups won.
70 individual awards during their careers.

I can't think of a single assembled ice hockey team that has ever come close to having this sort of historical greatness.

posted by grum@work at 01:53 PM on January 08, 2010


I will admit that I haven't visited SpoFi that much since the switch. The site design is just terrible now, and it makes it too hard to read all the comments.

As well, it always asks me to sign in, and I don't have the option to do multiple previews of the comments I do make.

Thanks for all the fun I had here the past few years, but unless something changes I'll probably be just following sports somewhere else.

posted by grum@work at 01:57 PM on September 27, 2008

Link dump!

I present: The Greatest Free-Throw Shooter and 3-Pointer Shooter in History

posted by grum@work at 07:44 PM on June 26, 2008

Link dump!

You know what makes that 2 year old video so great? The word "GO" with an arrow pointing at the basket, written on the padded floor. Because, you know, the guy bouncing on the trampoline needs to be reminded which direction to jump.

posted by grum@work at 07:42 PM on June 26, 2008

I needed to make this link dump, for this video I found that was not enough for a FPP. However, I needed to posted it!

Take one for the team.

posted by grum@work at 11:19 PM on May 12, 2008

Its that time of year again

Hart: Ovechkin. It's really not that close. Selke: Madden. The Red Wings split their own votes. Lady Byng: Datsyuk. No reason, just a guess. Calder: Backstrom. The Blackhawks split their own votes. Norris: Lidstrom. Inertia is tough to break for voters, unless someone REALLY stands out. Not the case this year. Vezina: Brodeur. For a while there, he was an MVP candidate as well, so I can't imagine it'll be that close of a vote.

posted by grum@work at 11:46 AM on April 30, 2008

MetaFilter Social Explorer

Hey, guys! This SPORTSFilter, note BREADFilter. ;)

posted by grum@work at 11:09 AM on April 16, 2008

Where the hell is everybody?

Darts? - Sure. Spelling Bees? - Why not. Competitive Eating? - Ew. But we've said yes before. Arm wrestling? - Yup. Rock Paper Scissors? - A sport everyone can play equally well? Sure! Dwarf Tossing? - Only if it's sanctioned. Chess? - Definitely. Beer Pong? - Maybe not. World of Warcraft? - No. Foxy Boxing? - Hell, yes! Monkey Baseball? - Fuck, yes! Survivor: Cleveland? - Pass. Cheese Hockey? - Whu? The Democratic Primary? - We don't have enough intergender sports. Fingernail growing contests? - Hopefully without slow-mo replay video links. Prison breaks? - Which division? South American or South Asian? Spin the bottle? - Celebrity, or just kids? Cuz just kids would be kinda creepy. Exquisite Corpse? - Whu? Flava of Love? - Gah!

posted by grum@work at 12:21 PM on April 15, 2008

Where the hell is everybody?

The Masters NHL playoffs MLB week 2 (including Yankees/Red Sox) NBA final week Final Four recovery Too much sports, not enough internet time.

posted by grum@work at 04:05 PM on April 13, 2008

Are you ready for some hockey?

Montreal over Boston (5) - Murray/Kovalev Pittsburgh over Ottawa (5) - Malkin/Spezza Washington over Philadelphia (6) - Richards/Semin New York over New Jersey (7) - Avery/Gionta Detroit over Nashville (4) - Zetteberg/Dumont San Jose over Calgary (7) - Marleau/Iginla Minnesota over Colorado (7) - Gaborik/Sakic Anaheim over Dallas (5) - Perry/Richards

posted by grum@work at 11:31 AM on April 08, 2008

MLB Opening Day Predictions

AL East: Boston Red Sox AL Central: Detroit Tigers AL West: Seattle Mariners AL Wild Card: Cleveland Indians NL East: New York Mets NL Central: Chicago Cubs NL West: Arizona Diamondbacks NL Wild Card: Philadelphia Phillies ALCS: Tigers over Red Sox NLCS: Mets over Diamondbacks WS: Mets over Tigers AL MVP: Miguel Cabrera NL MVP: David Wright AL CY: Josh Beckett NL CY: Brandon Webb AL ROY: Adam Jones NL ROY: Kosuke Fukudome First manager fired: Ozzie Guillen (he's pretty much going to beg for it by June) Third Annual "Where Will Roger Clemens Be On July 1st": At home

posted by grum@work at 06:31 PM on March 31, 2008

NHL Trade Deadline Aftermath Thread:

In my protection league pool, I had Armstrong, Christensen and Esposito. I picked them to complement my Crosby selection from a couple of years ago. I figured that getting as many young Penguins as possible would help when they all mature into a scoring dynamo. Whoops. Do the Habs have some super stud in their farm system just waiting to take over? Carey Price is now the starting goaltender for the Habs, and he's the real deal. I think it was a bad deal for a team in the running for a long playoff haul to deal one of their starting goalies, but if they have that much faith in Price, it's a great deal for them.

posted by grum@work at 09:29 PM on February 26, 2008

Kornheiser post

That's your explaination? Well, I don't accept it. Well, you are pretty much going to have to accept it as he's one of the administrators.

posted by grum@work at 09:58 PM on February 25, 2008

Best All-Time Baseball Broadcaster?

1. Tom Cheek (I was born/raised in Toronto) 2. Vin Scully 3. Jack Buck 4. Ernie Harwell 5. Bob Uecker / Harry Doyle

posted by grum@work at 11:54 AM on February 15, 2008

Is anyone else following the hearings today?

No tests or anything to judge each person's intellect? Nope. Exhibit A, for your perusal.

posted by grum@work at 09:46 PM on February 14, 2008

SportsfIlter Group

I've added my name to the wiki list. Also, I fixed the order so that it was alphabetized. I do not, however, have any intention of sharing my musical taste with the rest of the world. I'm ostracized enough for being a supernerd, I don't need to ostracized from the supernerd crowd because of my music.

posted by grum@work at 10:51 AM on February 03, 2008

Homer Jersey Swap?

Descriptions are fine, but let us see the merchandise! Snap a quick digital pic, upload it to and post the link here.

posted by grum@work at 03:59 PM on January 30, 2008

Missing Link?

Not delete unless it was an epic and horrible clusterfuck that no one should ever have to read again. Keep around at least one HORRIFIC clusterf*ck thread, and use it as an to point out posts that are NOT acceptable. As well, if it's on a topic that always generates clusterf*ck threads (race, gender, team loyalties), then use it for that example as well. "See this thread? It's a bad thread. Don't do this. Ever."

posted by grum@work at 11:44 AM on January 28, 2008

Happy Iron Anniversary, Sportsfilter.

My 6-year anniversary is in mid-February. I found this place after someone mentioned it on another, less celebrated website. After finally joining, I said [this is good].

posted by grum@work at 11:21 AM on January 25, 2008


because he is stuck up and conceited I assume that you are eating a big plate of crow at this point, so that's why you haven't come back to say "Oops!" goddam: That is the award that he was pointing at, and he doesn't say "Homerun". So, it seems that ARod's baseball IQ is perfectly fine, but those that immediately assumed he was wrong/lying/stupid may be "challenged"...

posted by grum@work at 03:57 PM on January 06, 2008

Guidelines update request

lol!!!!!! i think itz hilarryus dat you guyz r so mean to us n00bs woh use the 1337speek its over 4 u old guyz we ruuuuuule now!!!!!!! lolololololololol! ps pete rose shuld b in da hall of fame cuz he is grate and he didnt use roids!!!!!! grum@work

posted by grum@work at 06:13 PM on December 28, 2007

Did holden just quit or was that a joke?

Link dumping? Okay! What's it like to be a CFL QB?

posted by grum@work at 09:50 PM on November 19, 2007

Did holden just quit or was that a joke?

I've never seen a bounce like that before. When dealing with an oblong shape with points, it's amazing the bounces that thing can take. I've seen a kick returner let a ball bounce in front of him and skip over his head. He then turned around to look for it, but when it bounced again, it came BACK over his head a second time. Naturally, he had no chance to pick it up and the kicking team recovered it. It doesn't sound like they used video review on the play. The referee mentioned a "discussion", which meant the head guy talked it over with the two guys under the cross bar. My guess is one of them signalled "no good", but the other one actually saw it bounce off the back bar but waited until everyone got together to discuss it. Good officiating on their part. P.S. Au revoir!

posted by grum@work at 01:07 PM on November 19, 2007

Did holden just quit or was that a joke?

Someone's "aura" is ripe. phew. Sorry, that's my Leafs/Bills/Blue Jays combo-aura. They haven't been in good shape in a VERY long time. I hope they get cleaned up some time in the near future.

posted by grum@work at 10:43 PM on November 18, 2007

Did holden just quit or was that a joke?

I'm going to guess joke.

posted by grum@work at 11:58 AM on November 17, 2007

SportsFilter Has 2.37 Million RSS Subscribers

For The Win

posted by grum@work at 01:59 PM on October 13, 2007

Editorializing on the Front Page

So if TCS is really gone, does that mean I win the "stats vs scouts" debate by default?

posted by grum@work at 08:09 PM on October 11, 2007

Editorializing on the Front Page

As someone who is a fan of the Bills, Blue Jays and Leafs, I WISH people were celebrating when my team got knocked out of the playoffs. That means those teams got into them in the first place. Even when people do make fun of the teams I cheer for, I just have to remember: At least I'm not a fan of the Arizona Cardinals, KC Royals or the (snicker) Ottawa Senators.

posted by grum@work at 07:42 PM on October 10, 2007

NHL 07-08 Prediction Thread

grum, [how] did you know to draft Bernier? I've heard that the other L.A. goalies were stinking up the joint. As well, he was fantastic in the Summit Series Redux. As a long-shot-last-pick, he seemed like a good choice. However, I wasn't smart enough to realize that he might actually start the game today, so he's not in my starting lineup.

posted by grum@work at 12:32 PM on September 29, 2007

Ask SpoFi

These days a case can be made that Japanese players are the equal of American players Um, no. All you need to see that this isn't the case is MLB stats of such Nippon Professional Baseball sluggers like Tuffy Rhodes, Randy Bass, and Alex Cabrera. That's not to suggest that the elite players in Japan can't be elite players in MLB (Ichiro, Matsui), but the baseline level of talent in NPB is much lower (probably upper AA or lower AAA) than that of MLB.

posted by grum@work at 11:19 PM on September 28, 2007

NHL 07-08 Prediction Thread

Atlantic - Penguins Rangers Devils Islanders Flyers Northeast - Sabres [deity]'s Canadiens Bruins Southeast - Thrashers Capitals Lightning Hurricanes Panthers Central - Predators Red Wings Blackhawks Blue Jackets Blues Northwest - Canucks Avalanche Wild Flames Oilers Pacific - Sharks Ducks Kings Stars Coyotes Eastern Qualifiers Senators Penguins Thrashers Sabres Rangers Devils Leafs Canadiens Western Qualifiers Sharks Canucks Predators Ducks Red Wings Avalanche Wild Flames Finals: Penguins vs Sharks Scoring Leader: S. Crosby Richard Trophy: J. Spezza (ptui!) Calder Trophy: N. Backstrom (Capitals) Vezina Trophy: R. Luongo Hart Trophy: S. Crosby Norris Trophy: D. Phaneuf Adams Trophy: Ron Wilson

posted by grum@work at 11:02 PM on September 28, 2007

Lindros Over/Under Winners

Putting Frisby second by .16 Actually, not true. According to BPiR rules, MrFisby would not qualify since he guessed 10 games UNDER the number that Lindros played. Second place would be SummersEve.

posted by grum@work at 12:51 PM on September 08, 2007

Lindros Over/Under Winners

The root mean square does not take the Bizarro Price Is Right rule into account, though. If you take that into account, the winner would be Wingnut4life (since his RMS is the lowest for those that were equal or above both values).

posted by grum@work at 09:47 PM on September 07, 2007

Lindros Over/Under Winners

In my calculations (based on the root mean squares in difference of points and games), the winner is Folkways. Name RMS Folkways 3.54 Fabulon7 5.15 Qbert 6.96 Hater187 8.28 WeedyMcSmokey 8.75 Skydivemom 9.22 The_Black_Hand 10.30 2bnamedl8r 12.21 Wingnut4life 12.59 MrFrisby 12.75 SummersEve 12.98 Garfield 13.93 Grum@work 16.28 Skydivedad 18.38 Goddam 19.10 Samsonov14 19.24 NoMich 63.82

posted by grum@work at 08:15 PM on September 06, 2007

Link Dump

The scream from the skier is just...oh dear lord, that's gonna haunt me for a while. It's almost a Wilhelm scream.

posted by grum@work at 11:35 PM on August 26, 2007

Link Dump:

And here's one for the dump: Rocket Signs with Yankees (circa 2057). I guess it did slide off the front page...

posted by grum@work at 12:24 PM on June 23, 2007

Link Dump:

Link to the text of Vin Scully calling the last inning of Sandy Koufax's fourth no-hitter, and only perfect game. It's a pretty good example of why he's the best sports announcer of all time.

posted by grum@work at 12:33 PM on June 18, 2007

Server Slow No Mo

What my friend Fipi Lele told me is that you need to delete the unused accounts to free up bandwidth.

posted by grum@work at 11:45 AM on June 05, 2007

SportsFilter Wiki

My suggestion is to use "TinyUrl". Your "Paper Lion" link becomes

posted by grum@work at 11:39 AM on May 16, 2007

Quality of Links Decreasing. Discuss.

I like "Healthy Scratch".

posted by grum@work at 10:18 PM on May 11, 2007

Quality of Links Decreasing. Discuss.

Uh... how about "The Bullpen." I'd say okay to that, but there are some stars in the bullpen (Rivera, Nathan), so being there isn't that bad.

posted by grum@work at 06:04 PM on May 11, 2007