May 04, 2007

SportsFilter Wiki: I didn't even realize there was a wiki until the thread about favorite books came up. But apparently there is one, and since it's there, any interest in using it? I added my member page, but I am not sure where to start as far as adding more content. Not sure how to use a wiki? Check out this guide on WikiPedia.

posted by scully to navel gazing at 07:48 AM - 91 comments

I did some work on it once, a long time ago. I'll be darned if I can remember what it was, or if I'm even right on this one. But it's definitely been the sort of thing that I look at every month and say "hey, I should meaty that thing up a li'l". Maybe not those exact words.

posted by DrJohnEvans at 10:39 AM on May 04, 2007

I forgot that was there! It would be nice to fill it out a bit.

posted by vito90 at 11:38 AM on May 04, 2007

I am willing to take on any admin duties associated with the wiki depending on how much access the SpoFi admins want to give. For example play with the layout (add an actual logo, etc), monitor spam, etc. I could also be a contact if people have questions on how to use it, or suggestions on topics that may be added and maybe the person making the suggestion doesn't feel they have the wiki chops, etc. I *think* is justgary's site (correct me if I am wrong), so contact me if this proposition interests you, Gary (or Rogers). At some point the wiki should be easier to find (I dont' think there is a link anywhere on SpoFi or .info) so that users can gain from it.

posted by scully at 12:23 PM on May 04, 2007

I see Trox added a user page! Arsenal supporters represent!

posted by scully at 01:45 PM on May 04, 2007

Terrapin, you're more than welcome to do whatever with the wiki. My wikifu is weak. Email me for anything you need.

posted by justgary at 02:22 PM on May 04, 2007

Maybe someone will find all my lost interviews and post 'em up there. Riiiiiiiiiight.

posted by worldcup2002 at 09:50 PM on May 04, 2007

In case anyone is reading this thread still, I have added a section to the wiki for the books mentioned in this thread. I have included links to Amazon using rcade's Amazon affiliates code so that if anyone buys a book via that link SportsFilter will get a little revenue. The exception was kickerofelves, who linked to his website and had his own Amazon affiliates code. So I left those to be fair. I missed some of the books either because my amazon searhes didn't return a good result or I just plained missed it. This was a long and tiring addition :) Feel free to add to the wiki, especially this page.

posted by scully at 12:42 PM on May 08, 2007

terrapin and anyone else who's worked on it, good job on the wiki. It's really coming along nicely.

posted by apoch at 01:08 PM on May 08, 2007

It's all terrapin.

posted by justgary at 01:58 PM on May 08, 2007

terrapin, yer a dude. thanks for doing this. Would it be okay if we added comments to the page, like why we are recommending the books?

posted by lil_brown_bat at 02:53 PM on May 08, 2007

I'd say that terrapin is more of a d00d than a dude. It's cooler that way.

posted by NoMich at 03:31 PM on May 08, 2007

I see Trox added a user page! Arsenal supporters represent! I even added links to a few Arsenal blogs that I follow to the Arsenal page.

posted by trox at 03:54 PM on May 08, 2007

Looks really good guys.

posted by jerseygirl at 04:13 PM on May 08, 2007

Would anyone be interested in a group at LibraryThing? MetaFilter just set one up and it's pretty solid-- it would be interesting to see if we could get a decent list of sports books just by looking for commonalities among Spofi members there (which the site does).

posted by yerfatma at 04:54 PM on May 08, 2007

Oooh. I like LibraryThing. Second the motion.

posted by lil_brown_bat at 06:59 PM on May 08, 2007

What, exactly, do you do with it?

posted by NoMich at 07:13 PM on May 08, 2007

Created. What, exactly, do you do with it? Show how much smarter you are than everyone else. Duh. Are you new to the Internet? On the plus side, the commonality thing (where it shows you users similar to you) has already showed me some books I'd be interested in.

posted by yerfatma at 07:18 PM on May 08, 2007

It would could be cool to link to the spofi fantasy leagues. Winners could hang their awards along the walls for all to see.

posted by louisville_slugger at 07:53 PM on May 08, 2007

Please add anything you think is apropriate to the wiki, l_b_b. Another thing I think would be nice for the books section would be to organize the books by sport. That is my next task. Also, feel free to suggest articles. I would like people to create articles on their own, but I also am willing to get things started if people will fill in the blanks.

posted by scully at 08:42 PM on May 08, 2007

Thanks for starting the LibraryThing group, yerfatma. I joined.

posted by scully at 08:46 PM on May 08, 2007

'Cause I'm such a joiner, I'm in as well. My books are packed away. I'll add them when I'm moved and settled in to wherever I'm moving to in Raleigh.

posted by NoMich at 08:59 PM on May 08, 2007

louisville_slugger: That's a great idea... now feel free to help fill in the page.

posted by scully at 09:15 PM on May 08, 2007

I also added pages for chat and merchandise

posted by scully at 09:17 PM on May 08, 2007

Excellent edits, Trox! Thanks.

posted by scully at 09:39 PM on May 08, 2007

Who's responsible for trophy disbursement? I would love to adorn my profile and the wiki with my 2007 NCAA Tournament Pick 'Em Championship, but I'm new to this whole winning thing, and don't know the procedure.

posted by The_Black_Hand at 06:14 AM on May 09, 2007

Images are going to have to wait until I have had some time to add the "upload photos" code. I *hope* to get that done soon, and will alert people here. However, you can also keep an eye open for that text in the left navigation.

posted by scully at 06:49 AM on May 09, 2007

Is there a way to see all the SpoFi pages or do you have to perform searches?

posted by bperk at 08:55 AM on May 09, 2007

I beefed up the Fantasy Sports page with confidence pools info and results. The previous wiki ( had a few pages with fantasy league results. Is there an archive of it somewhere? I'm in favor of moving almost all info off the main page, and have the main page more as a top-level list of links. At this time, most pages are almost hidden. Who's with me?

posted by qbert72 at 09:03 AM on May 09, 2007

Correction: Look for "upload files" in the "toolbox" navigation below the search field. It is there now. That should allow people to upload photos (or trophies) to use in articles. However, it also means more diligence and responsibility. Please let me know if you see any suspicious photos.

posted by scully at 09:49 AM on May 09, 2007

Wow, you guys are kicking a whole lot of arse with the wiki. /me doffs cap

posted by NoMich at 09:55 AM on May 09, 2007

Please let me know if you see any suspicious photos. Oh, the comedic possibilities.

posted by jerseygirl at 09:57 AM on May 09, 2007

qbert72: If I understand you, you want to turn the main page into a sort of site map or outline. If so, I am definitely with you. Feel free to work on that. I wasn't even familiar with SpoFiWiki, but I checked the Way back machine on and found that there is a snap shot from February 2005, which also includes some of worldcup2002's interviews. qbert72: If you were volunteering to look for usable material from the old wiki, that would be a good place to start. I'll poke around when I have a chance, but I have a busy week ahead of me and will be going out of town soon.

posted by scully at 10:03 AM on May 09, 2007

For that comment, jerseygirl.... here is your interview. :P

posted by scully at 10:06 AM on May 09, 2007

Work blocks Sigh. No, I don't know why. I stopped asking questions a long time ago. I don't even remember what I said several years ago. It was back when I was unjaded and optimistic. Ahh, young JG... there are so many things I wish I could tell you.

posted by jerseygirl at 10:09 AM on May 09, 2007

You know what's fun and weird? My comments here are getting quoted on blogs, and even better, attributed to me. I don't even know of this blog. Hey Ma, look! I'm famous to tens of people.

posted by jerseygirl at 10:15 AM on May 09, 2007

"Casino?" "Casino" is your favorite? Stuck forever on a desert island with one movie, you pick "Casino?" Wow. That's... I don't even know what that is...

posted by The Crafty Sousepaw at 10:36 AM on May 09, 2007

I have started the framework for moving the old interviews to the new wiki. I am going to start moving the interviews over next.

posted by scully at 10:39 AM on May 09, 2007

Like I said, it was a long time ago. Like so many of you astute cinemaphiles, I'd probably pick the classic and ethereal "Hustle and Flow" or the sharp and poignant, "Cheaper by the Dozen 2" as a my favorite.

posted by jerseygirl at 10:43 AM on May 09, 2007

If the interview thing ever gets reopened, I think the first order of business should be interviewing everyone who has already been interviewed. See if their five-year-plan is still on track three years later. Kind of like a Brady family reunion.

posted by The Crafty Sousepaw at 10:52 AM on May 09, 2007

Holy shit porting the interviews is going to be time consuming :) Took me 15 mins just to do the first one (StarFucker's) qbert72: Coming up with the outline/sitemap will be key to this project. If you (or anyone else reading) wants to do a mock up in a text file and send it to me I can lay it out on the main page and we can see what folks think.

posted by scully at 11:15 AM on May 09, 2007

Look, concentrate on the important stuff: where's my drunken Red Dawn soliloquy? It would probably be a lot easier to write a regex or six to run over the HTML versions and replace things, compared to porting 15 of those things. Alternatively, you could use a web editor (HomeSite does it) or something like this page to strip all the HTML and then you would just have to do the markup. And replace the links that got stripped.

posted by yerfatma at 11:57 AM on May 09, 2007

OK, here's a first draft at an outline, based on the current content: * About SportsFilter (most of what's currently on the home page) * Policy and Etiquette ** Guidelines ** Horses beaten to death * Members ** Wiki User List ** Interviews ** Chatrooms * Fantasy ** Leagues ** Pick'ems ** Confidence pools * Projects and offsprings ** Music swaps ** The book list ** SpoFi gear (merchandise) ** Century montage * About this wiki ** How to join ** How to contribute

posted by qbert72 at 12:11 PM on May 09, 2007

I beefed up the chat page. Woo!

posted by DrJohnEvans at 12:43 PM on May 09, 2007

DrJohnEvans: Thanks! Nice job, qbert72. I implemented your suggestions. There are some blank places where content needs to be fleshed out. This is primarily the Fantasy Sports section. yerfatma: I agree that there must be better ways, but I am not familiar with them. If you'd like to take on that section, just let me know so we aren't stepping on each others feet. I don't mind continuing to do it my slow way, but it may just take a while. The interviews have been MIA for a while now so I think they can go missing a while longer. worldcup2002: About how long has it been since the rest of the interviews went bye bye? I only searched the Way Back Machine for the URL. I *may* find more if I dig for

posted by scully at 02:16 PM on May 09, 2007

Is there a link to all the user pages made by SpoFites on Wiki?

posted by Ying Yang Mafia at 04:02 PM on May 09, 2007

There is now.

posted by qbert72 at 04:09 PM on May 09, 2007

qbert72: Do you know if there is a way to not show the "User:" on the user page list? Everyone is categorized under the letter U :)

posted by scully at 05:38 PM on May 09, 2007

Ok, now I've read my interview. a) hahaha anti-coffee? Oh young JG, you ignorant slut, coffee is wonderful! b) Trading Spaces and Will & Grace. I don't even know this girl. c) Wow my job sucked. ok, that's it.

posted by jerseygirl at 05:55 PM on May 09, 2007

I think under the "List of dead horses" part, we need to add: not guilty vs innocent/ the OJ story. I saw that Samsonov14 had an interview. I have chatted with him him by the campfire and met him in real life, so I figured the interview would be a hoot. It did not disappoint. Thanks for finding those, Terrapin.

posted by MrFrisby at 06:49 PM on May 09, 2007

Do you think we could have a compilation of member blogs or would that be outside the scope of the Wiki? It would be a great way to procrastinate at work.

posted by bperk at 07:21 PM on May 09, 2007

How about just a list of ways to procrastinate at work?

posted by yerfatma at 07:30 PM on May 09, 2007

Yeah, that too. But, when I see a crazy commercial, I remember someone had a blog about commercials and I don't remember who that was. A lot of the wiki user pages have blogs which are easy to find out about now when there are only a handful of them, but will be difficult later.

posted by bperk at 07:54 PM on May 09, 2007

I'm with fritsy on the OJ threads. Jeesh, what a painful read. Where is Sammy these days? Did weedy lure him into his basement *again*?

posted by NoMich at 07:59 PM on May 09, 2007

How about just a list of ways to procrastinate at work? 1. 2. 3. Reread all of McSweeney's lists, recall fondly how you laughed or didn't laugh the first time.

posted by jerseygirl at 08:01 PM on May 09, 2007

Personally I think bperk has a good idea.

posted by Ying Yang Mafia at 08:29 PM on May 09, 2007

bperk: on Metachat's wiki there are various pages for everything from people's blogs to their Vox pages, to their Twitter usernames, to their Flickr site, etc. etc. I have added most of those things to my user page, but I can see each item/service being their own pages as well.

posted by scully at 09:08 PM on May 09, 2007

Damn. I got all excited when I saw this from the Way Back Machine. But the links on that page don't work... so my interview remains lost :(

posted by scully at 09:13 PM on May 09, 2007

Where is Sammy these days? he's in the army now.

posted by goddam at 10:44 PM on May 09, 2007

Why are all the user pages listed on the wiki listed under the letter "u".? I tried to look at it to see how it may be fixed, but for the life of me, I couldnt' figure it out. Of course, I can barely keep my eyes open for the Colbert Report right now.

posted by trox at 10:46 PM on May 09, 2007

trox: I am not sure. I asked qbert72, above, if he knew. I am relatively knew to wiki, but so far most stuff has been real easy to figure out. I will continue to look into it.

posted by scully at 06:17 AM on May 10, 2007

From jersey's interview: Someday we?re going to win one. This may be the year. Pretty damn close.

posted by The_Black_Hand at 06:20 AM on May 10, 2007

While looking over the Fantasy Leagues section I had a thought: how about a glossary of terms? People may not be familiar with The Costanza, etc. Feel free to put terms and definitions in this thread and I will start a page. Ideally if you can find the thread where the term was born that would be cool.

posted by scully at 06:48 AM on May 10, 2007

It is looking to me as though the only way to get the members' page to display user names in an orderly way would be to not use the Category method and simply have people add a link to their user page on a regular article. I will get on that and see what happens.

posted by scully at 07:00 AM on May 10, 2007

Is sammy really in the army? You're too good to us, terrapin.

posted by jerseygirl at 07:24 AM on May 10, 2007

Awww shucks, ma'am. *blush* I have created a new SportsFilter Members article (not category) which I think is more useful than the previous category method.

posted by scully at 09:32 AM on May 10, 2007

That's cool. I'll add my and flickr sites when I get home tonight.

posted by jerseygirl at 09:38 AM on May 10, 2007

I added links to the following SpoFi groups: * Flickr * LibraryThing * Facebook The last one I created ages ago and forgot to alert people. So I am very lonely there :) Please let me know off there are others I am missing.

posted by scully at 01:11 PM on May 10, 2007

Facebook = only for students?

posted by jerseygirl at 01:14 PM on May 10, 2007

Facebook has been open to the public for a few months now.

posted by DrJohnEvans at 01:26 PM on May 10, 2007

Oh that's great... and it's blocked by work, of course.

posted by jerseygirl at 01:28 PM on May 10, 2007

So, did Sammy really join the Army? Or was goddam just effing with us?

posted by NoMich at 02:10 PM on May 10, 2007

She wasn't effing with you. A few months ago I asked about abandoned teams in a fantasy hockey league. We were told to give Sammy a bye because he joined the Army.

posted by MrFrisby at 02:29 PM on May 10, 2007

Oh wow. Anyone know if he's been deployed overseas?

posted by jerseygirl at 02:32 PM on May 10, 2007

jerseygirl: you can add you soon-to-be-created Facebook account when you get home and update your Flickr and :)

posted by scully at 03:56 PM on May 10, 2007

I doubt Sammy's been deployed anywhere yet. First comes bootcamp, which (I think) is 10 - 12 weeks long in the Army. Then, depending on your MOS, you'll end up in some tech school for anywhere between 6 weeks to nearly a year. Just depends on how technical your job is. Infantry would be short, aircraft electronics technician will take a while. Chances are, Sammy's still on a training base somewhere in the United States, learning the joy of C-rations and bad haircuts, and taking test after test after test. Whereever you are, Sammy, good luck and Godspeed.

posted by The_Black_Hand at 04:35 PM on May 10, 2007

Whereever you are, Sammy, good luck and Godspeed. what The_Black_Hand said

posted by scully at 04:52 PM on May 10, 2007

I too wish sammy good luck and I hope for God's sake that he is able to watch the playoffs!

posted by skydivemom at 04:53 PM on May 10, 2007

I straightened up the book section. Hope you don't mind. Good luck Sammy.

posted by NoMich at 12:01 AM on May 12, 2007

NoMich: It is a wiki and community members are encouraged to make edits. Thank you!

posted by scully at 08:21 PM on May 15, 2007

Thank Mr. Guy. There are some books that I want to add to the booklist. How do I add the Amazon URL? For example, I want to add Paper Lion by George Plimpton to the list. How would I change the Amazon URL to fit the formatting to our Wiki? Here is the present URL:

posted by NoMich at 09:33 PM on May 15, 2007

My suggestion is to use "TinyUrl". Your "Paper Lion" link becomes

posted by grum@work at 11:39 AM on May 16, 2007

Terrapin wants us to add some special code so that SpoFi gets a cut of any Amazon sales through that link.

posted by NoMich at 12:27 PM on May 16, 2007

From the way I am reading it on the wiki page, NoMich, your link should be:

posted by MrFrisby at 12:48 PM on May 16, 2007

Or should it be:

posted by NoMich at 01:09 PM on May 16, 2007

Well that one gives me a 404, so probably not.

posted by MrFrisby at 01:38 PM on May 16, 2007

Could this be it:

posted by NoMich at 01:44 PM on May 16, 2007

NoMich, that last one worked for me.

posted by hawkguy at 01:57 PM on May 16, 2007 Also works.

posted by MrFrisby at 02:33 PM on May 16, 2007

I guess what I really want to know is what part of that URL is for SpoFi?

posted by NoMich at 02:42 PM on May 16, 2007

The "&tag=naviseek" is, of course.

posted by MrFrisby at 03:41 PM on May 16, 2007

In the gray Note section at the top it tells what part is relative. MrFrisby has it correct. Sorry I didn't get to the thread sooner to help, NoMich. BTW, folks can always email me. My wiki user page has soooo many ways to contact me. Speaking of the Amazon affiliate code, someone (accidentally I assume) changed kickerofelves code to the spofi (naviseek) code. I left kickerofelves's code because they linked to their own blog in the discussion thread and had their own code. I thought it only fair.

posted by scully at 07:48 PM on May 16, 2007

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