11/05/24
November 14, 2005
Jesse Jackson meets with T.O.: Involving Jesse Jackson could bring this T.O. thing to a whole other level.
Jesse, don't defend the indefensible. It makes you look stupider.
posted by garfield at 11:04 AM on November 14, 2005
No....Jessie should just shut the hell up actually....he isn't helping ANYONE anymore, let alone TO....I mean, come ON!!! What is he gonna do? Give TO some rhymes to go with his touchdown celebrations? Tell him to let God into his life, so he can whip out a bible for his NEXT touchdown celebration? (wonder what the fine would be on THAT little stunt....) Perhaps I am just harsh...but DAMN....Enough T.O. already...he is done, let him BE DONE till next year....
posted by sinisterfoot at 11:05 AM on November 14, 2005
and is it possible for Jessie to look stupider? I wonder......
posted by sinisterfoot at 11:05 AM on November 14, 2005
Jesse's ivolvement could get T.O. back on the field this year. The NFL won't dare to get on Jackson's "bad" side. I think that its a good move on T.O.'s part.
posted by daddisamm at 11:09 AM on November 14, 2005
U mean there is a good side to Rhymin Man Jessie???? I must have missed it in between all of his holier than thou speeches and runs for Presidency....
posted by sinisterfoot at 11:11 AM on November 14, 2005
Keep hope alive.
posted by rocketman at 11:14 AM on November 14, 2005
This does not warrant a one-year ban from the game," Jackson said, adding that the Eagles should release Owens to the open market or free agency if they no longer want to associate with him. Ralph Nader, a consumer activist and former presidential candidate, has already called for the suspension to be rescinded. Who the fuck are these guys to tell the Eagles how to run their organization. If they violated some kind of rule then the NFL, which I believe is the only governing body that can dictate how a club operates, would let them know. Hey Ralph why don't continue to attempt to put together a viable 3rd party to run in this political wasteland known as the USA and shut your fucking mouth about football.
posted by HATER 187 at 11:23 AM on November 14, 2005
What the hell does Jesse Jackson or Ralph Nader have to do with the NFL? How in the world did this become a race or civil rights issue? TO is an asshole regardless of race, gender, height, weight, orientation, favorite color or number of fingers and toes. JJ, Nader...stay out of it!
posted by willthrill72 at 11:23 AM on November 14, 2005
Oh yeah....what Hater said.
posted by willthrill72 at 11:24 AM on November 14, 2005
Sure, why not - it is all making sense now. This just goes to support my theory about intelligent control and design. Read all about it in my thesis: "The Earth is Stupid."
posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 11:25 AM on November 14, 2005
U mean there is a good side to Rhymin Man Jessie? He did good work before his run for the Democratic nomination. It's only since then that he's become a bit of a political joke. Also, his reading of "Green Eggs & Ham" on SNL was one of funniest things I've seen on the show.
posted by grum@work at 11:25 AM on November 14, 2005
a viable 3rd party Isn't that unconstitutional or something?
posted by garfield at 11:25 AM on November 14, 2005
Grum I forgot 'bout that one. That was freakin' funny!
posted by willthrill72 at 11:28 AM on November 14, 2005
Can you say "Opportunists"? I knew you could. While Jesse Jackson has done some REALLY brave things we should NOT forget (helping to release the hostages in Iran after 444 days in captivity, brokering peace negotiations between several heads of state in the Middle East, representing or speaking for 5 different presidents during heated relations between the US and other countries, standing next to Martin Luther King, Jr., period.) he's still a politician. And almost ALL politicians are opportunists.
posted by tadley86 at 11:39 AM on November 14, 2005
What the hell does Jesse Jackson or Ralph Nader have to do with the NFL? How in the world did this become a race or civil rights issue? Did either of them say it was? I think both Jesse Jackson and Ralph Nader suffer from an inability to draw the right lines in their conduct as a public figure, and their consequent making of statements on matters outside their field of expertise...but guess what, so does TO. The article doesn't really make it clear what their grounds are for complaint. If Jesse Jackson is making the point that there are pro athletes who have continued to play and get paid after having done much worse, I'm sure he's right...but I'm not a fan of the New Bedford defense (i.e., "other people get away with much worse"). If Jackson is contending that TO has been singled out, he may have a point, but this isn't "pro sports" or "the NFL" doing this, it's the Eagles organization. Have the Eagles ever handed out this kind of smackdown before -- or, conversely, have they let someone skate for an equal or greater offense?
posted by lil_brown_bat at 11:40 AM on November 14, 2005
Typically, when Jackson gets involved, it's usually a civil rights issue. If Jesse Jackson is making the point that there are pro athletes who have continued to play and get paid after having done much worse, I'm sure he's right. I guess what I'm asking is why is Jesse Jackson making any point? Shouldn't TO's attorney, agent and/or union rep be making these points? Why does the good Reverend need to get involved? Nader, forget Nader. By looking at his past political forays, not many people listen to him anyway.
posted by willthrill72 at 12:05 PM on November 14, 2005
We need a better America
posted by rocketman at 12:15 PM on November 14, 2005
I'm for that.
posted by garfield at 12:36 PM on November 14, 2005
Better than what?
posted by daddisamm at 12:40 PM on November 14, 2005
Read all about it in my thesis: "The Earth is Stupid." I just pissed my chair and now my co-workers are complaining about the smell. Thanks.
posted by HATER 187 at 12:43 PM on November 14, 2005
Above all else, Jesse Jackson wants the spotlight to focus on himself. I've generally respected him throughout the years, and like hearing him speak. This, however, is not an issue he needs to be involved with. A spoiled millionaire athlete that just can't manage to shut his stupid mouth? Just what T.O. needs, another person enabling him. ANY organization has the right to handle their employees in such a manner when their behavior is detrimental to that organization. And it's ridiculous to expect the Eagles to cut him loose so another team, choosing to be oblivious to the bigger problem, will sign him in an attempt to win teams and thus further erode the concept of "TEAM" in professional sports. If all other high-profile persons, networks, magazines, etc. would ignore T.O. for several months, he may actually figure this situation out. I seriously don't see that happening, though.
posted by dyams at 12:49 PM on November 14, 2005
Can they force him not to play past this season? Perhaps for the duration of his contract. I would love to that happen.
posted by HATER 187 at 12:55 PM on November 14, 2005
Hopefully Jessie can get TO to accept some counseling; he (TO, not necessarily Jackson) could probably be helped by talking to a shrink. Dunno if that'd get his NFL career back on track, but somebody needs to give him a reality check.
posted by alumshubby at 01:04 PM on November 14, 2005
And we wonder why people want to see our culture destroyed. I thought the rainbow coalition stood for the poor and the meek. Press shall inherit the earth.
posted by volfire at 01:05 PM on November 14, 2005
At least Jessie will do a better job than Rosenhaus.
posted by panoptican at 01:06 PM on November 14, 2005
TO's trouble started when he got rid of his old agent for Drew Rosenhaus. Probably because he's the only agent willing to take TO's money to do EXACTLY what TO wants rather to protect TO from himself. Two peas in a pod. As for the rest of his career, SOMEONE will be willing to deal with his nonsense for the receptions and YAC. Any predictions? I say Denver (I give condolences ahead of time to those Broncos fans here.)
posted by tadley86 at 01:07 PM on November 14, 2005
This does not warrant a one-year ban from the game," Jackson said, adding that the Eagles should release Owens to the open market or free agency if they no longer want to associate with him. Technically it's only about 1/3 of a year
posted by timdawg at 01:12 PM on November 14, 2005
Does Jesse have T.O. on his Fantasy League??
posted by jjay at 01:15 PM on November 14, 2005
And we wonder why people want to see our culture destroyed. I'm wondering what the hell that has to do with Jesse Jackson supporting TO. Are you saying what I think you're saying?
posted by cl at 01:17 PM on November 14, 2005
Will SOMEBODY in TO's life please tell him to sit down and shut the fuck up? I mean, damn, this guy is living in a dream world, has been for awhile, and people are STILL perpetuating it. It is fucking insane.
posted by chmurray at 01:21 PM on November 14, 2005
What Jesse Jackson does or doesnt stand for has nothing to do with this. What Jackson brings to the mix is the regualr national media which could pressure the NFL or specifically, the Eagles into doing something. T.O is trying to get a paycheck here. He is ready to try every avenue. This post is not about bashing jackson, rather the help he (or his reputation) can bring to T.O.
posted by daddisamm at 01:23 PM on November 14, 2005
Will SOMEBODY in TO's life please tell him to sit down and shut up? I mean, damn, this guy is living in a dream world, has been for awhile, and people are STILL perpetuating it. It is insane. For us to stop hearing about T.O. I think that a "gag order" would have to be issued to T.O and ALL of the Media. Then we may have some peace and quiet.
posted by daddisamm at 01:30 PM on November 14, 2005
How is JJ going to bring more national media attention to TO? TO has all the attention he should need (not in his own opinion, I'm sure). JJ will only be redirecting that attention towards himself and turning this issue into something it is not.
posted by willthrill72 at 01:32 PM on November 14, 2005
I wonder if I would receive any support if I told my boss to "shut up". Or if I told my manager not to speak to me unless I spoke to him first. Or if I told them that I would work if I felt like it. That's what I thought. Doesn't JJ have some marriage vows he needs to break instead of becoming involved in this BS?
posted by RedStrike at 01:53 PM on November 14, 2005
This post is not about bashing jackson, rather the help he (or his reputation) can bring to T.O. What I don't understand is why someone would bother with this cause, of all things. T.O doesn't provide society with any necessary service we all can't live without. He's an entertainer, period. Just like Ben Vereen, Sammy Davis Jr., etc., he is nothing more than a diversion for actual society. Plus, he's made more money he can live off than some small countries are worth altogether, so there just HAS to be better areas for Jackson to focus. T.O. had hold of the Cow that laid the golden egg, and he let it slip away. Drift off in the sunset. Nobody will ever care.
posted by dyams at 02:02 PM on November 14, 2005
I think I'd pay real, folding money to see a joint press conference with TO, JJ, Ralph Nader and Drew Rosenhaus. It would be like the Olympics of self-importance. Up next: Congressional Hearings.
posted by dzot at 02:03 PM on November 14, 2005
This isn't football... This is a damn soap opera. What a disgrace to football.
posted by reichman77 at 02:12 PM on November 14, 2005
Sign this is the end of days: I agree with everything Hater187 says, I have nothing more to add. Credit where credit is due: Well said Hater187.
posted by bugsyduke at 02:57 PM on November 14, 2005
Bugsy paying me a compliment, make sure it isn't raining frogs.
posted by HATER 187 at 03:16 PM on November 14, 2005
No frogs-maybe snow, however, out here in the "heartland"! ;-)
posted by daddisamm at 03:20 PM on November 14, 2005
Ok is this strange bedfellows or match-made-in-heaven, I can't decide.
posted by tron7 at 03:22 PM on November 14, 2005
Jesse Jack-ass is an absolute idiot! "The Rev." should stick to scamming the people who donate to the "Rainbow Push" operations. Last I knew, the "Rainbow" meant "Gay/Homosexual?" Is Jesse gay or just starved for attention? Leave T.O. alone!
posted by teamrayburn.com at 03:33 PM on November 14, 2005
That might be the greatest nonsense ever posted. And you got the punctuation right! Congraddds.....
posted by yerfatma at 04:07 PM on November 14, 2005
That might be the greatest nonsense ever posted. And that's saying alot!
posted by tron7 at 04:30 PM on November 14, 2005
I think JJ will bring justice to the suffering (TO). JJ always thinks about what he is getting into (women besides his wife). And is known for giving great knowledge. And the Rev. JJ once said "One thing I know, negroes can drive cars fast," How can you doubt this guy?
posted by Turbo at 04:33 PM on November 14, 2005
*flips "days without Terrell Owens-related posts" sign back to 0*
posted by chicobangs at 04:50 PM on November 14, 2005
grum, that was one of the funniest things I've ever seen. Thanks for making me remember it again.
posted by The_Black_Hand at 05:07 PM on November 14, 2005
ah, tio ah'm sawry, thought it was mah unkuhl. T ah O is ah wondahful man who is ah misundahstood. Yah know he was from dah hood. He was just ah upset, but now, he's ah filled with ah regret. Ah vote for me, ah in 2003! ah wait ah minute, that's ah already passed, but back to mah ah tio, ah mean T ah O. The man has ah class. Yuh can't vote in 2003, ah that's ah ok with me. Let the man play and ah vote for me the next ah elecshun day. ah thank you. All this is, is a shameless attempt by both people to remain in the spotlight. One is an has been politician who made the same mistake by referring to jews in a manner that was politically incorrect. The other one just wanted all the attention and didn't know when to shut up until it was too late. I hope the media does not give these two "it's all about me" the attention that they are so desperately craving.
posted by blackdog1968 at 08:05 PM on November 14, 2005
All this is, is a shameless attempt by both people to remain in the spotlight. I'm hoping it'll turn out like Shakespeare described: "As two spent swimmers, that do cling together/And choke their art."
posted by alumshubby at 07:20 AM on November 15, 2005
Just wondering but I don't think stupider is word.
posted by sadsadcubsfan at 10:47 AM on November 15, 2005
posted by The_Black_Hand at 12:52 PM on November 15, 2005
Don't forget stupiderest.
posted by tron7 at 01:29 PM on November 15, 2005
oh jesus christ. shouldnt jesse jackson be speaking out against something else a little more meaningful