June 29, 2005

The Gambler goes all in.: Kenny Rogers loses his shit and attacks two TV cameramen, shoving one camera to the ground and kicking it, while cursing at and threatening other cameramen. This comes a day after Kenny refused to start claiming he had a broken bone in one hand after punching a water cooler, causing a lot of ciriticism from the local media due to the fact that this was a major game against the AL West leading Anaheim Angels. (there's the option to watch a video of the aftermath in the first link after sitting through a Crest commercial!?).

posted by Ufez Jones to baseball at 06:19 PM - 63 comments

(for registration on the first link (and possibly the third), you can use login:ssecrest48 at hotmail password: ufezjones) The cameraman that was hurt worse has reportedly contacted local police and is exploring options about pressing assault charges. Damn, for a season that started with some hope, the Rangers are looking pretty damned.

posted by Ufez Jones at 06:23 PM on June 29, 2005

Brother has always been wound tight. I first noticed the season he pitched a perfect game. I can see David Wells' reaction to his perfecto, David Cone's too. What did Kenny's look like? On the plus side, Mike Doughty's been covering The Gambler in concert recently.

posted by yerfatma at 06:55 PM on June 29, 2005

When I worked at the Fort Worth Star-Telegram around 11 years ago, Kenny Rogers blew a gasket and bull-rushed one of the paper's beat writers, Simon Gonzalez, shoving him across the room. It would suck to be the reporter in that kind of situation, because you can't respond without risking your livelihood. I'd love to pick up a paper and read that Rogers pulled some of this shit on someone who didn't have to take it.

posted by rcade at 08:38 PM on June 29, 2005

Rogers is a dick. Assault in a work environment would get most people fired from their job. Rogers deserves nothing less than a 12-week suspension and loss of salary, and I hope the cameraman sues for damages.

posted by the red terror at 08:41 PM on June 29, 2005

That's ridiculous. Living in New England, I'm kinda sensitive to how much shit players take from reporters, but the reverse is even more unacceptable. Rogers must never have gotten beyond being a jock in high school. If anyone does snap back, for God's sake hit him somewhere besides that jaw.

posted by yerfatma at 08:52 PM on June 29, 2005

Doesn't he realize by now...dammit man, you've got to know when to hold 'em!

posted by The_Black_Hand at 09:51 PM on June 29, 2005

Cameramen bring the game to the masses. Without the press baseball is just a bunch of adults wearing too tight apparel playing pitch and catch. Seriously this old man needs to get a grip on reality. I hope the cameramen extract a fair piece of the dudes 05 salary. He's done nothing to earn it anyway lately!

posted by mikemora at 12:00 AM on June 30, 2005

It is fucking ridiculous. They spent a decent amount of time on a local radio show the other day (goodfellas f/ Newie Scruggs, FWIW) about the most embarassing moments in Metroplex sports history, and, frankly, had this occured before then, I bet it'd take the cake, if not be top 3. Add to that the frustration with the release of two of the starting five Rangers pitchers, the fact that Drese has done quite well in three starts for the Nats, the collapse of a bullpen that was so strong last year, and frankly, it blows to be a Rangers fan right now. I like what Chris Young is doing, but he's only good for about six innings every fifth day. Damn it all. He's done nothing to earn it anyway lately! Obviously, I'm hard pressed to defend Kenny right now, but a 9-3 record, 2.46 ERA and 1.28 WHIP are far from indefensible numbers, Mike. Watching the eventual aftermath of this will be like watching a trainwreck in your own neighborhood. That said, I really need to find a copy of Doughty covering the Gambler. Thanks for the tip, fatty.

posted by Ufez Jones at 12:50 AM on June 30, 2005

http://www.menwholooklikekennyrogers.com/

posted by JJ at 03:40 AM on June 30, 2005

[A] copy of Doughty covering the Gambler. Haven't heard it yet, but the Oregon show I recently downloaded has disappeared off that site.

posted by yerfatma at 06:10 AM on June 30, 2005

off topic ... I was a Doughty show a month ago. He played the Gambler and most of the college kids there were clueless as to which song he was playing. Priceless.

posted by jasonspaceman at 08:38 AM on June 30, 2005

The Oregon show had a nice touch where someone in the crowd did the fill-ins on the last chorus, so when Mike sang "Know when to fold 'em," the kid yelled out "WHEN TO FOLD 'EM!" right after.

posted by yerfatma at 08:52 AM on June 30, 2005

Damn, for a season that started with some hope, the Rangers are looking pretty damned. Yet another data point on the side for "reasons you don't tout your surprise team too early". That was only 30 days ago...

posted by grum@work at 09:00 AM on June 30, 2005

A couple of photos from the Fort Worth Star-Telegram of the incident that sent one cameraman to the hospital with neck and other injuries: Here's the paper's story. I love Roger's weak apology -- "I'm sure I didn't handle this right" -- and the GM's assertion that he probably wouldn't be suspended. The cameraman was taken off on a stretcher! I'm a Rangers fan, but the weak response to this incident and the chair-throwing incident last season point to an institutional problem with the team. Randy Galloway's column mentions the 1994 incident with one of the paper's reporters: "Two nights after he was the losing pitcher in a game against the Minnesota Twins, Rangers pitcher Kenny Rogers pushes a Star-Telegram writer out of the team clubhouse. Rogers approached the writer as he was about to begin a group interview with Rangers pitcher Kevin Brown."

posted by rcade at 09:02 AM on June 30, 2005

When, if ever, are professional athletes going to be held to the same standards that everyone else is held to in the work place? If I punched someone at work, be they fellow employee or vendor or customer I'd be fired. No suspension, no hearing, I'd be gone on the spot and so would nearly everyone else.

posted by scottypup at 09:13 AM on June 30, 2005

Oh come on - what's the point of being a professional athlete if you can't be untouchable? I mean apart from the millions and the whole life lavishness, it just ain't worth it if you're not allowed to lose it and hit people without fear of reprisal. Also nice to see Kenny picking on someone clearly his own size. Aside: "The Gambler goes all in" is my favorite headline of the past few months. Thanks for the chuckle, Ufez.

posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 09:25 AM on June 30, 2005

this guy is an ass, I sincerly hope The rangers suspend his retarded ass and MLB levies a huge fine, what is it sport star insanity week, after Jeremy Roenick deicided his sport doesn't need its fans Kenny Rogers goes all Dennis Rodman on someone what the fuck don't mlb contracts have behavior stipulations.

posted by navy9112000 at 09:37 AM on June 30, 2005

I was as shocked as anyone when I heard this. I live in LA, and listen to Angels games on the radio while stuck in our famous gridlock. Rory Marcus and th gang were doing the usual pregame show when they noticed the ruckus on the field and cutaway to a reporter down on the field who gave a closeup description of the entire incident. I could of expected this from a Barry Bonds or Jose Guillen, but Kenny Rogers? The guy looks like he has no personality at all and no emotion to speak of. In some playoff games a few years back, when he would be pitching in huge situations, he rarely showed a glimpse of passion. I often thougt of him as a guy who was out there just to earn a paycheck. The ultimatre journeyman pitcher. Hell! The guy actually does have a pulse!

posted by bluekarma at 09:42 AM on June 30, 2005

Yes, he acted like an ass. No, he really shouldn't have lost his cool. But the fact that this incident will follow him around for a while is probably punishment enough. So he assaulted a cameraman who got in his face. Fine, let the cameraman and him work it out, in court if necessary. (It sounds like that's happening.) Frankly, if I were Mr. Rogers, I'd rather have a fine or a suspension than have this follow me around for the rest of my career. It doesn't sound like he has that choice now. Oh well. (And navy9112000, leave Roenick out of this. He was quoted out of context, and he apologized and clarified his position repeatedly since then. If you choose to continue believing that, you weren't really listening to what he said.)

posted by chicobangs at 10:06 AM on June 30, 2005

got in his face? chico, did you watch the video? the guy was filming the team file out of the dugout. it was hardly invasive, if you ask me.

posted by garfield at 10:25 AM on June 30, 2005

Okay, I should have put that bit in quotes, although I was under the impression there was a previous incident with a camera that led to this one.

posted by chicobangs at 10:36 AM on June 30, 2005

fair 'nuf. i have no clue if there is any prior history.

posted by garfield at 10:39 AM on June 30, 2005

Whoa whoa whoa ... Jeremy Roenick was quoted "out of context"? I listened to a good three minutes of unedited horseshit spewing from that moron's mouth. How can that be "out of context"? Because he forgot to take his meds before heading to the press tent? I don't need clarification -- Roenick was AWFULLY damned clear during the press conference. He's a tough player and a talented guy ... but he's also a huge, self-serving, attention whore. "Kenny is having anger issues right now," Rangers general manager John Hart said. "I don't know what's going on inside. We're responding to something that's very unusual." "Kenny is a whiny bitch right now, Rangers general manager manager John Hart said. "Christ, you'd think it was 'roid rage, wouldn't you? We're not sure what the problem is, but we're going to do the right thing and suspend his ass for the remainder of the season so he can't go help any other team, and then he'll be released." There, I fixed that for you. :)

posted by wfrazerjr at 10:57 AM on June 30, 2005

I'm inventing the world's tiniest violin so I can play it for poor Kenny Rogers, whose career will be remembered for the times he was stricken by Sudden Asshole Syndrome.

posted by rcade at 11:57 AM on June 30, 2005

Unless you are Keeny Rogers, you have no idea what has sparked his anger recently. There are a lot of pressures in professional sports that don't exist elsewhere. I wonder how many of you would handle cameras in your face and reporters chasing you any better than he did. Maybe once, but after so many years? He blew up in the dugout and that became news to someone, so like the worst kind of papparazzi, they were there to record the next one. You have to ask if he would have gotten so angry if there was just one guy with a camera, and if they had ASKED to film him instead of just doing it. Everyone is entitled to their privacy- it's in the constitution.

posted by irunfromclones at 02:39 PM on June 30, 2005

fraz, there was quite a big deal made of american sports media cutting into JRs tirade without the preceding bits. TSN was careful to air before-rant tape to give the agitated response some relativity. I'm not saying he didn't fly off the handle(hell, I enjoyed seeing his busted mug and wired jaw much more than a compassionate human being should), but "we don't need fans" wasn't his message.

posted by garfield at 02:42 PM on June 30, 2005

irunfromclones, far be it from me to crap on your first comment, but bullshit. He has a history of becoming physically agressive with the media. This isn't a single occurence and I see no paparazzi angle here. As for right to privacy being written into the Constitution, I would ask where. The First Amendment of the Bill of Rights craps on the right to privacy for figures in the public eye in order to prevent government officials from controlling media access.

posted by yerfatma at 03:06 PM on June 30, 2005

You have to ask if he would have gotten so angry if there was just one guy with a camera, and if they had ASKED to film him instead of just doing it. Everyone is entitled to their privacy- it's in the constitution. You remove all expectations of privacy when you are in a public place (like walking down the street or going to a movie theatre). The baseball field is considered a public place, so that logic falls apart. And the camera wasn't "in his face". He walked over to the camera the second time (as it filmed him) and then attacked it again. He went out of his way to get at it, so I've got no sympathy at all for him. The cameraman was taken off on a stretcher! I'm not so sure he was that badly injured because after the second assault, another cameraman caught that guy on tape winking to the camera! So I think he might have played up the injury when he realized how it was going to look on film. That doesn't excuse Rogers for being an ass, but if the cameraman is planning a civil suit against Rogers, it might not work out for the best.

posted by grum@work at 03:08 PM on June 30, 2005

Cameraman Larry Rodriguez just filed an assault complaint with Arlington police. I have trouble believing he'd let himself get carted off like that to juice up a lawsuit, especially when it would mean the likely end of his career covering sports to sue a local team. It's pretty funny to see these camerapeople compared to paparazzi. They were on the field of play, at the invitation of the Texas Rangers, filming players walk out of the dugout tunnel before the game. This happens at every single game. Attacking them is no different than if Rogers decided to bitchslap one of the team publicists for bringing him tap water instead of Evian.

posted by rcade at 04:01 PM on June 30, 2005

You remove all expectations of privacy when you are in a public place (like walking down the street or going to a movie theatre). The baseball field is considered a public place, so that logic falls apart. I don't agree. I do expect to be able to walk down a street without being harrassed by people with cameras if I am Joe Shmoe or Kenny Rogers. The Bill of Rights specifies government officials, not private citizens. It's never good to lose your cool like this, but the media has to accept part of the blame. They could have turned the cameras off and just walked away. That he went after a second group at a distance was a very bad choice, I agree. Just walk a mile in his shoes though before you say he has always been a jerk with the media. How would you like it if people that you did not know and din not know you, print or say all manner of rude or untrusive things about you? How would you hold up being under a microscope of media scrutiny all those years? The clubs force these guys to act nice even to the worst idiots in the business. Even the pope would flip his lid.

posted by irunfromclones at 05:57 PM on June 30, 2005

How would you hold up being under a microscope of media scrutiny all those years? I wouldn't, but I don't get paid to be a public figure. It isn't as if Kenny Rogers plays baseball for fun and no other recompense. He gets paid fabulously well thanks to things such as ticket sales, endorsements, and, most importantly, the television/radio/internet revenues that come from advertisements. As long as he draws a paycheck for playing ball in front of millions of people, he answers to those people (which he hasn't been doing anyways, due to his prior media silence. Least he could do is allow a camera trained on him while he is on the field [a public space] to catch his glowering personality as he warms up). So, simply put, without the media and without the public, Kenny Rogers makes bupkis. If he wants to get paid, he should let other folks do their jobs.

posted by avogadro at 06:15 PM on June 30, 2005

I still don't understand why it is that just because people play a game or act in movies or television, that their fans expect them to be more accessible than anyone else, and act differently than anyone else.

posted by irunfromclones at 06:22 PM on June 30, 2005

The Bill of Rights specifies government officials, not private citizens. You realize all government officials (AFAIK) are private citizens when they go home for the night, right?

posted by yerfatma at 06:22 PM on June 30, 2005

clones: the media were there with the permission and likely at the request of the Rangers, i.e. Kenny's employers. The media are supposed to cover the team because it gives the team press. Press generates interest, and interest generates dollars for the team. You think movie stars like going on every mom and pop morning show, dumbass radio show, and putting up with that Scottish guy from the Drew Carey show just to promote their movies? I sure don't. But they do it because it's part of the employment game. If you don't like it, fine, but you may not get signed on for the next season/album deal/movie spot/television gig.

posted by Ufez Jones at 06:34 PM on June 30, 2005

I don't agree. I do expect to be able to walk down a street without being harrassed by people with cameras if I am Joe Shmoe or Kenny Rogers. The Bill of Rights specifies government officials, not private citizens. It doesn't matter if you disagree - you're incorrect. The U.S. courts have long established that a "public figure" includes politicians and pro athletes, movie stars, etc. - even personal injury claimants. Basically anyone that willingly places themselves in the public eye. Kenny Rogers is most definitely a public figure and has far fewer rights to privacy than an average citizen. If you don't like it, work to change the law. But disagreeing with facts won't do you much good.

posted by dusted at 06:58 PM on June 30, 2005

Just to clarify: Kenny Rogers the pitcher is a public figure. I dunno if the Kenny from Kenny Rogers' Roasters qualifies anymore. One of the all-time great exchanges from the Red Sox radio guys . . . Jerry: "Pitching for the Rangers, Kenny Rogers and the First Edition. Whatever happened to the First Edition, Joe?" Joe: "Whatever happened to Kenny Rogers?"

posted by yerfatma at 07:44 PM on June 30, 2005

Kenny Rogers has earned $55 million in a 15-year career playing a children's game, irunfromclones. Care to venture a guess as to how much money he'd make without being a subject of great interest to the public? He could have regained his privacy at any time by quitting baseball. If he's willing to accept the money, he should be willing to accept the media that goes along with it. Especially since most Major League Baseball players are little known or even unknown to non sports fans. The last time I was at Six Flags over Arlington, Jeff Nelson and his family got on the train behind us. If anyone else recognized him but me, I couldn't tell.

posted by rcade at 07:50 PM on June 30, 2005

Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I present to you Mr. Kenny Rogers. (aka irunfromclones) How can you be a apologist for this red assed thug? Given his previous run ins with the media the Rangers would be idiots to not have a conduct clause in his contract. He gave up his freedom of privacy when he sign that contract and cashed the big fat checks he collects. How can you defend the man who just broke a finger because of his temper and then takes it out on a cameraman that is there doing his job? I'm sick and tired of celebrities and athletes that think they can do whatever the hell they want with no repurcussions. Let me guess, you were a juror in the Michael Jackson trial, right? We can thank jack offs like you for letting that ass pirate off the hook. Thanks, all the little 8 y/o boys of the world appreciate it!

posted by Craven Morehead at 09:48 PM on June 30, 2005

Cameraman Larry Rodriguez just filed an assault complaint with Arlington police. I have trouble believing he'd let himself get carted off like that to juice up a lawsuit, especially when it would mean the likely end of his career covering sports to sue a local team. Hey, I don't know what the motiviation is, but I've seen the tape and after Rogers goes koo-koo-for-cocoa-puffs on the second cameraman, that guy picks up his camera, turns his head, looks at another cameraman (who was rolling, so we can see this tape), smiles and winks. Then the next scene in the montage is him being carted off on a backboard. I'm simply saying what I saw in the news clips. I'm sick and tired of celebrities and athletes that think they can do whatever the hell they want with no repurcussions It's no different than other people who do bad things, except that it's sometimes on tape or plastered across the news headlines. People who assualt other people in bars aren't considering the repercussions of their act, so why do we think celebrities should act differently? People are people, regardless of social stature. There are good and bad at every level of society.

posted by grum@work at 10:15 PM on June 30, 2005

What you saw in the news clips doesn't seem very persuasive to me, grum. According to other press, Rodriguez didn't think he was hurt. He had to be persuaded to see a paramedic after he mentioned neck and back pain. In the heat of the moment, when his adrenalin was still pumping, maybe his first thought was to laugh it off. But I guess we'll have to wait to see if he sues or not.

posted by rcade at 10:20 PM on June 30, 2005

guess it's kind of like when you're in a car crash and you think you're ok, but after a little while things start to hurt. it can take a bit of time for neck and back injuries to show symptoms. (hell, i'm just starting to feel the effects of yesterday's company volleyball game and i didn't have to battle the likes of kenny rogers, only i.s. geeks)

posted by goddam at 11:19 PM on June 30, 2005

The bloke seems to be a bit out of order. Surely part of his job is to tolerate media coverage. If he can't manage that then he should be sacked, just like anybody else who attacked guests of his employer at his workplace. Can we please try not to descend to ad hominem attacks just because of differences of opinion?

posted by squealy at 07:06 AM on July 01, 2005

I think the cameraman is out for money. On Sportscenter, he was saying that he had contacted the Rangers to see "if we could work this out." He came off as a total sleaze -- oh, he aggravated an old neck injury -- yeah, right. It seems that some members of the media increasingly try to create news rather just witness it. Maybe that's what happened here. As of yet, we don't know what may have transpired earlier. Still, there is no excuse for Rogers' behavior. He is a baseball player at a ballpark. Get over it!

posted by bperk at 07:35 AM on July 01, 2005

Sit the prick on the bench and let him stew.

posted by Tigersfan at 07:40 AM on July 01, 2005

On Sportscenter, he was saying that he had contacted the Rangers to see "if we could work this out." O tempora, o mores! Sad that money should be seen as the only way of working something out -- I can understand why, but OTOH I can also see a lot of reasonable forms of redress that a victim might want, short of money or jail time. Maybe the cameraman just wants his medical bills paid for; maybe he'd like Rogers to go through anger management counseling, so as to be less likely to attack in the future.

posted by lil_brown_bat at 07:45 AM on July 01, 2005

The cameraman says he suffers from four herniated discs that were aggravated by the assault. I think that condition is medically verifiable, and if he's telling the truth, he ought to give Rogers a five- or six-digit reason to learn to control his temper. Personally, if I was assaulted in full view of the media by a multimillionaire, I'd be racing to the nearest attorney as fast as my broken body would take me.

posted by rcade at 09:31 AM on July 01, 2005

that cameraman FAKED his injuries. Trust me, he is looking for a payday. Did you see him WINK right before he got whacked again? C'mon! These guys are paid to be obnoxious! They were probably the least liked kids in school and no one wanted them around. Now they get a camera and a microphone, and you have to listen to them? Get real! Personally, I thought it was cool to see someone stand up the media overload! Anything for a story? Maybe, it wasn't PC, but it was the right thing to do. Where are the rights of the atheletes? Oh, because they are famous or whatever, that gives these news whores the right to harrass you endlessly?

posted by bluekarma at 09:41 AM on July 01, 2005

They're paid to be obnoxious, and here you are doing it for free. I guess we're lucky.

posted by rcade at 11:11 AM on July 01, 2005

bluekarma sure is giving his trolling skills a good work out today. I wonder if he's actually reading anyone else's posts, because using the same lame "it's the media's fault!" argument that was destroyed a couple of days ago suggests that he just runs into a thread, spouts the silliest thing he can think of, and then just runs away.

posted by grum@work at 12:00 PM on July 01, 2005

It's Scott Boras' fault. I mean, isn't it always?

posted by graymatters at 12:16 PM on July 01, 2005

I can understand why, but OTOH I can also see a lot of reasonable forms of redress that a victim might want, short of money or jail time. I just want once for somebody in a case like this to go: "I'll settle if I can slug Kenny Rogers in his fucking face on TV." It would probably only work if they had good insurance though. As far as that other bullshit goes, I didn't see the media go slap up two camera men, it looked like carbon-based douchebag Kenny Rogers was the one doing it. Since he is on my fantasy baseball team I've already had to sit through the unmerciful shelling that the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim gave him, the broken hand, and now this...I can hardly wait to see what he does to top it to complete the downward spiral.

posted by chris2sy at 12:29 PM on July 01, 2005

I'm not sure it's a matter of sports figures or celebrities being expected to act any differently than the rest of us, Grum. I think it's more about being held to the same standards. If I decided to walk out into the mall (yes, I now have a mall location!) and pimpslap someone for looking at me strangely, I'd be 1) carted off to jail, 2) kicked out of the mall and 3) probably sued for emotional distress, blah blah blah. Why should it be any different for Kenny Rogers? O tempora, o mores! Mmmm, fried foods and desserts! Or am I reading that incorrectly?

posted by wfrazerjr at 02:28 PM on July 01, 2005

Well, the Comish has spoken. It's a 20 game suspension and an undisclosed fine. Not strong enough in my opinion.

posted by Scottymac at 03:42 PM on July 01, 2005

The fine is reportedly $50k, at least according to local talk radio. I'm a Rangers fan and I'm not sure it's strong enough.

posted by Ufez Jones at 04:50 PM on July 01, 2005

I've been harsh on Rogers, but 20 games and $50,000 sounds fair to me. It does suck for my Rangers, though. This season was looking pretty good a month ago.

posted by rcade at 04:53 PM on July 01, 2005

20 games and $50k doesn't sound like much, but their is still the issue of settling with the cameraman/men to take into account. I would have liked the numbers to be a tad higher myself.

posted by lilnemo at 04:56 PM on July 01, 2005

We can thank jack offs like you for letting that ass pirate off the hook. Thanks, all the little 8 y/o boys of the world appreciate it! posted by Craven Morehead at 9:48 PM CST on June 30 Yet another example of the barely literate allowed access to a keyboard and the internet. How's your anger management class going? I'm not defending Kenny Roger's actions, just trying to say look at all sides of the issue. For the record, I think that athletes and celebrities make far too much money, and get far too much attention from fans like you. And if I had been on the Jackson jury, he would be in jail, not Bahrain.

posted by irunfromclones at 05:16 PM on July 01, 2005

It does suck for my Rangers, though. Yeah. Outside of the two cameramen, the guys I feel most sorry for are that young core of Rangers players (Teixeira, M. Young, Hank, Mench, etc.) and Chris Young who now has to be the ace of the staff in what is essentially his rookie year. rcade: Have you per chance been listening to Randy Galloway's show online? I've heard that crotchety bastard rip into some people (hell, it's a regular occurance), but he's in rare form this week.

posted by Ufez Jones at 05:22 PM on July 01, 2005

20 games for a pitcher is more like 4 games. And $50K is nothing to him. And the player's union is appealing it? Is that just an automatic response, no matter how ridiculous it looks? Here's the kicker - Selig said this asshole can play in the all star game. There's proof. Professional athletes are above the law. Period. I'll stop trying to rationalize it like he's an equal.

posted by smithnyiu at 05:41 PM on July 01, 2005

Players' unions should stick to stuff like providing pensions and disability payments for the less celebrated amongst their ranks. Is there anyone who isn't a professional sportsman who doesn't think appealing something like this is both laughable and faintly distasteful? Now I speak as someone who knows, frankly, very little about baseball except that it's a bit like 20/20 cricket but with less boundaries. It's no private elementary school but it's up there. Anyway, I'd suggest fining him more, banning him less but making him do some unpleasant community service job in the close season.

posted by squealy at 06:08 PM on July 01, 2005

I haven't had a chance to listen to the Dallas sportstalk stations. I'll bet The Ticket was all over this one.

posted by rcade at 07:55 PM on July 01, 2005

It does suck 4 the Rangers, but more for K.Rogers teammates. They have to go 20 games without their best pitcher. His teammates should hog tie his ass. Damm whenever the Rangers start to look good some Bs happens. Or we meet the Yankees in the 1st round of the playoffs.

posted by Rage Rod 74 at 08:27 PM on July 01, 2005

$50k plus he loses salary for the 20 suspended games (right?). 1/8 of the year's pay and that doesn't take into account the settlement that's surely coming. Would someone like you or me get jail time with no priors? Probably not. And I expect there'll be other, subtler consequences to Rogers over time.

posted by billsaysthis at 01:01 AM on July 02, 2005

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