04/20/24
October 19, 2004
Yanks v. Sox Game 6.: Here we go again.
slam-a-lamma-ding-dong!
posted by jerseygirl at 07:48 PM on October 19, 2004
Schilling looks good. Damn. I like that you can see the blood in his sock. That wind is nuts - Posada's was a blast, it was like it hit a wall. "You're risking a patient's life!"
posted by Bernreuther at 08:19 PM on October 19, 2004
Schilling will get lit up before the end of the 5th...they are getting good swings at him...
posted by Meathooks at 08:25 PM on October 19, 2004
Yay Varitek!
posted by rocketman at 08:38 PM on October 19, 2004
You surely mean Lieber, Meathooks.
posted by jerseygirl at 08:41 PM on October 19, 2004
Bellhorn hit it out!!! It hit a fucking fan and they called it a double! Discussing it now....
posted by insomnyuk at 08:42 PM on October 19, 2004
They got it.
posted by insomnyuk at 08:43 PM on October 19, 2004
Did that fan impersonate an outfield wall on purpose, or because he was a spaz who didn't realize it would hit him?
posted by rcade at 08:46 PM on October 19, 2004
Loked like the fan tried to catch it and it bounced out of his hands. Kind of the anti-Steve Bartman.
posted by Joey Michaels at 08:46 PM on October 19, 2004
well this sucks.
posted by Bernreuther at 08:49 PM on October 19, 2004
Yeah, but Schilling has only one K- as a strikeout pitcher, him not getting the strikeouts means the Yanks are getting too many good swings on it. But fuckin' A if that Bellhorn- Bellhorn!- homerun doesn't give a MUCH needed cushion.
posted by hincandenza at 08:52 PM on October 19, 2004
well this sucks.
posted by Bernreuther at 08:55 PM on October 19, 2004
damn it. something is wrong with this site.
posted by Bernreuther at 08:56 PM on October 19, 2004
Schilling got out of the fourth. Limping too. How much longer will he be effective and does he get releived at the right time, which is very soon.
posted by oicnub4 at 09:03 PM on October 19, 2004
Bullshit. How long will LIEBER last? He's already thrown a lot of pitches.
posted by BoSoxFan at 09:06 PM on October 19, 2004
I may regret booking that flight to NY for the World Series!
posted by Meathooks at 09:08 PM on October 19, 2004
more woes with RISP. It's april all over again. I'm debating going to bed.
posted by Bernreuther at 09:10 PM on October 19, 2004
Is this really happening? I'll be honest, 4 runs at Yankee Stadium feels like we're behind. We need at least 6 more...
posted by BoSoxFan at 09:18 PM on October 19, 2004
Schilling looked much better in the fifth. *sigh of releif* He usually gets stronger in the later innings, so if the ankle allows this will be a very good game.
posted by oicnub4 at 09:21 PM on October 19, 2004
More importantly, Schilling has 66 pitches and hasn't blinked. If his ankle were going to bother him (in terms of stamina) it would have by now. He's a good bet to go long, and possibly all 9, unless the Yanks start straightening out those foul shots. Which is why I share BoSoxFan's concern that a bigger lead would be nice- they say Wakefield's being saved for tomorrow, but I don't like the season riding on a tired Arroyo or Lowe holding a 1 run lead if Schilling blinks in the next couple of innings.
posted by hincandenza at 09:23 PM on October 19, 2004
The Yanks have come back from 4 a bunch of times this season. The Sox need to be up by 6 to have a comfortable lead.
posted by Joey Michaels at 09:24 PM on October 19, 2004
Schilling's on so much nembutol, he can't even feel his foot. This better not go into extra innings. I had three pints of beer already.
posted by lil_brown_bat at 09:31 PM on October 19, 2004
There is blood pooling in his ankle. This is like the climactic scene of The Natural, with the blood stains on his jersey! Not a good start to Jeter.... ow, stomach queasies... :(
posted by hincandenza at 09:31 PM on October 19, 2004
I haven't eaten dinner yet- I'm trying to decide if I should go now and catch the last inning, or just wait it out and hope this doesn't go extra. But unlike games 1-3, I haven't drunk a drop since Saturday! Maybe that's the secret- the Sox can't win if I drink!
posted by hincandenza at 09:34 PM on October 19, 2004
Must say, no matter what happens: Crazy mad props to Schilling.
posted by pivo at 09:36 PM on October 19, 2004
I haven't eaten dinner yet- I'm trying to decide if I should go now and catch the last inning, or just wait it out and hope this doesn't go extra. Do what I did, go to the bar and get dinner there (and beer).
posted by lil_brown_bat at 09:39 PM on October 19, 2004
And Bellhorn is the hero? He phoned it in all season, set K records, then golfed one off a stunned fan. This better not end with some crazy shit 5 run rally with 2 out in the ninth. My wife hid all sharp instruments and took my belt...
posted by BoSoxFan at 09:40 PM on October 19, 2004
Has Fox made the obvious pun yet about Schilling's red sock?
posted by rcade at 09:44 PM on October 19, 2004
Well if the Yanks rally Bellhorn can still be the goat. Inning ending DP with bases loaded lest we forget. should be like 6 or 7-0 right now.
posted by pivo at 09:45 PM on October 19, 2004
Man, I'm sick of "God Bless America."
posted by dusted at 09:46 PM on October 19, 2004
Yay Bernie! w00t!
posted by mr_crash_davis at 09:54 PM on October 19, 2004
That's our good ol' reliable DH Sierra...reliable for a loud out or a whiff. Sheesh. I'm glad I started drinking at 8.
posted by lil_brown_bat at 09:57 PM on October 19, 2004
Yay Schilling! w0o+!!!!!1
posted by hincandenza at 09:57 PM on October 19, 2004
I'm glad lbb is posting more frequently on this thread- that must mean the Sox are about to blow this wide open! :) Oh crap, I didn't just jinx us, did I? Oh crap... sorry, Baseball Gods, my hubris was wholly unintended!!
posted by hincandenza at 09:59 PM on October 19, 2004
Schilling has done incredibly well. Amazing performance, and that ankle must be nasty... The guy's a hero/idiot for pitching on that!
posted by Drood at 10:01 PM on October 19, 2004
Suxx to be Francona- pull Schilling, and they tear you apart if the tired bullpen can't hold it. Don't pull him, and they tear you apart if he lets it go. That said... no reason he couldn't send Schilling with the 1-baserunner rule: have Arroyo ready to go at a moment's notice, and the first runner to reach against Schilling is his last hitter. Why not try to get another 1, 2 outs against him? Little's error last year was in having Martinez there, but without a quick hook!
posted by hincandenza at 10:04 PM on October 19, 2004
Put your teeth in and bite me, Hal. They've got Heredia, they don't need me.
posted by lil_brown_bat at 10:06 PM on October 19, 2004
Schill is out? Awww crap. Now it's time to start the countdown. Arroyo will be good for about 8 pitches, Myers for 3. How many outs is that? Jesus, here we go...
posted by BoSoxFan at 10:07 PM on October 19, 2004
Have faith brother BoSoxFan - Arroyo has turned it around
posted by kokaku at 10:09 PM on October 19, 2004
Hal: totally agreed, he should be in on the 1-runner rule, especially since it is the bottom of the order. This is going to be a scary ride for six more outs...
posted by tieguy at 10:10 PM on October 19, 2004
Folks, Curt Schilling is a real man.
posted by rocketman at 10:12 PM on October 19, 2004
Obviously you leave Schilling for the "one on your pulled" scenario. Arroy had a pretty good performance last night. Get Timlin up and have Folke ready. Not a bad position to have.
posted by oicnub4 at 10:19 PM on October 19, 2004
Then again, maybe they don't want to break the poor guy - I mean he pitched on an ankle you or I wouldn't be walking gingerly on.
posted by kokaku at 10:20 PM on October 19, 2004
Jeter is so clutch.
posted by rocketman at 10:25 PM on October 19, 2004
Crap! And Myers is the only one up in the pen.
posted by oicnub4 at 10:25 PM on October 19, 2004
Wow. Has Miguel Cairo got a set of wheels or what?
posted by lil_brown_bat at 10:25 PM on October 19, 2004
Vomit. This is why you let Schilling burn up a hitter or two before he gives up a double like that.
posted by hincandenza at 10:25 PM on October 19, 2004
Unless there was a medical reason, Francona is going to get roasted tomorrow, win or lose.
posted by tieguy at 10:25 PM on October 19, 2004
Oh boy can they really goof things up.
posted by oicnub4 at 10:30 PM on October 19, 2004
You have GOT to be fucking kidding me.
posted by hincandenza at 10:30 PM on October 19, 2004
Chandler: (rubbing his temples) Oh, no-no-no-no-no.... Joey: (pats Chandler on the leg) That’s good, just keep rubbing your head. That’ll turn back time.
posted by grum@work at 10:31 PM on October 19, 2004
cheater!
posted by jerseygirl at 10:31 PM on October 19, 2004
A-Rod is a fucking asshole.
posted by Drood at 10:31 PM on October 19, 2004
Way to go Umps- you have shown integrity in reversing two calls you got wrong initially. Fucking amazing that A-Rod did that. What kind of bush league crap is that?!
posted by hincandenza at 10:32 PM on October 19, 2004
Sheffield will probably nail a moonshot and tie it up. Argh, I can't take this. My ulcers have ulcers!
posted by hincandenza at 10:33 PM on October 19, 2004
So what if Rodriguez is out, the run still scores, don't it? One out, that's the number of fingers you need to pick your nose, you dummies.
posted by lil_brown_bat at 10:34 PM on October 19, 2004
Definitely bush-league.
posted by pivo at 10:34 PM on October 19, 2004
Sorry, A-hole, you can't draw a fumble in baseball. Wrong fucking sport, you cheat.
posted by etagloh at 10:34 PM on October 19, 2004
(not you dummies, the dummies in the black suits on the field who can't figure it out)
posted by lil_brown_bat at 10:34 PM on October 19, 2004
All that aside, does Minkiewicz know how to play 1st? Why does he come to play the ball when Arroyo is running for it. Then he has nobody to throw to and we get bizarre plays like this.
posted by kokaku at 10:35 PM on October 19, 2004
no. the run doesnt score. jeter doesnt go from first to home on an out at first.
posted by jerseygirl at 10:35 PM on October 19, 2004
Sorry, A-hole, you can't draw a fumble in baseball. Wrong fucking sport, you cheat. So where does knocking the ball out of the catcher's mitt in a play at the plate figure in all this?
posted by lil_brown_bat at 10:35 PM on October 19, 2004
Hey kudos to the umps!!! Now I hope Timlin has been throwing all this time.
posted by oicnub4 at 10:35 PM on October 19, 2004
All that aside, does Minkiewicz know how to play 1st? he uh... has a Gold Glove. I guess he does know. :)
posted by jerseygirl at 10:36 PM on October 19, 2004
Total bush league. Most talented player on the planet and he cheats. I was already aggravated with the amount of time that A-Rod was preening himself at the plate during that at bat. As a Rangers fan, I feel great shame at ever having liked the guy.
posted by rcade at 10:36 PM on October 19, 2004
This game is too good. Two reverse calls? Busted ankle "New England Baseball Lore"? A Mark Bellhorn home run? A year-long starting pitcher on in the eighth with your regular season set-up guy sitting picking his ass? Leiter trying with all his mighty control not to smack McCarver upside the head? This is outstanding shit. P.S. ARod is not a fucking asshole. ARod is simply a fucking Yankee.
posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 10:36 PM on October 19, 2004
right call, though I don't quite get why that's not allowed but takeout slides and running over the catcher are. and WHY THE FUCK is Jeter sent back to first? He was on second by the time this happened, and had it not happened, he still had second safely. Is it some kind of penalty? Ridiculous!
posted by Bernreuther at 10:36 PM on October 19, 2004
no. the run doesnt score. jeter doesnt go from first to home on an out at first. And he doesn't go anywhere? What, did he turn into vapor or something?
posted by lil_brown_bat at 10:37 PM on October 19, 2004
What an odd game.
posted by dusted at 10:37 PM on October 19, 2004
I love you God(s)
posted by BoSoxFan at 10:38 PM on October 19, 2004
yes, vapor.
posted by jerseygirl at 10:38 PM on October 19, 2004
It was interference lbb, so Jeter can't advance (as in you can't throw him out trying to score after the ball has been slappped from your hand). Knocking the ball from the catcher is different as he is right there and the only thing you are really doing is running into him. If A-Rod ran into him and knocked the ball loose it's kosher. The reachingg out and swatting the glove arm, not so much.
posted by pivo at 10:38 PM on October 19, 2004
So what if Rodriguez is out, the run still scores, don't it? One out, that's the number of fingers you need to pick your nose, you dummies. No interference he gets maybe one base. Kind of a judgement call by the umps where he ends up.
posted by oicnub4 at 10:38 PM on October 19, 2004
not that it matters, because Sheffield has forgotten how to hit. Seriously though. Call the out, and let the runner stay on second where he belongs.
posted by Bernreuther at 10:38 PM on October 19, 2004
Why should Jeter benefit from another batter cheating?
posted by rcade at 10:39 PM on October 19, 2004
No lbb, because interference makes the ball dead, and the runner out. As such, Jeter does not get the benefit of the extra bases, and stays at 2nd (which he would have had with the out play). Otherwise, we'd see this play all the time- guy on first, bunt it down the line then tackel the pitcher. Hey, the run still scores, right!? :) Damn, Arroyo. Good job, we can survive that run- now Francona, you better not send him out for the 9th! Go Sox! Pad that lead!
posted by hincandenza at 10:39 PM on October 19, 2004
So where does knocking the ball out of the catcher's mitt in a play at the plate figure in all this? You can collide with a catcher and jar the ball loose, but you can't swat at the glove. You'll notice that players will drop a shoulder and try to pound it out of the catcher, but not one of them ever makes a grabbing motion at the glove. Yankee fans at the stadium can complain all they want, but when they see the replay at home tonight, they'll realize it was the right call. Unless, of course, they are blind. Throwing stuff on the field? That's about as bush league as what ARod did.
posted by grum@work at 10:39 PM on October 19, 2004
BoSoxFan: you are three outs too early for that... (says the man who screamed at people who celebrated with 40 seconds left in the NCAA national championship game in 2001...)
posted by tieguy at 10:40 PM on October 19, 2004
You can collide with a catcher and jar the ball loose, but you can't swat at the glove. Which is what I meant. A-rod's chop was straight out of Madden 2K5.
posted by etagloh at 10:43 PM on October 19, 2004
Me: He's out because that's not part of his normal running motion. Wife: It would be if he (air quotes) ran like a girl (/air quotes). You know, with the pinwheeling arms?
posted by grum@work at 10:43 PM on October 19, 2004
Mrs. Grum cracks me up.
posted by jerseygirl at 10:44 PM on October 19, 2004
That's great - next year you're going to see players running like that to establish precedent
posted by kokaku at 10:45 PM on October 19, 2004
A-Rod is not a real man.
posted by rocketman at 10:47 PM on October 19, 2004
It was interference lbb, so Jeter can't advance (as in you can't throw him out trying to score after the ball has been slappped from your hand). Fair, I guess. Knocking the ball from the catcher is different as he is right there and the only thing you are really doing is running into him. If A-Rod ran into him and knocked the ball loose it's kosher. The reachingg out and swatting the glove arm, not so much. Well, the arm was in the base path -- you could see that, because Rodriguez had to double back to get to the bag. And as for the catcher thing, by knocking the catcher over, you could be stopping him from making a second play elsewhere (it's been known to happen).
posted by lil_brown_bat at 10:48 PM on October 19, 2004
This pretty much puts a nail in the "Varitek should have taken his mask off before feeding ARod a catcher's mitt sandwich" coffin.
posted by jerseygirl at 10:49 PM on October 19, 2004
Mrs. Grum is funny, and original.
posted by dusted at 10:51 PM on October 19, 2004
BoSoxFan: you are three outs too early for that... Actually I am taking it one out at at time. A Rod being called for interference is something that does not happen to the Red Sox in this type of game in my and my father's lifetime. I was thanking the Gods for breaking the string. They still might lose, but they won't be cheated out of it.
posted by BoSoxFan at 10:51 PM on October 19, 2004
Oh, what now??? Cops with riot gear???
posted by lil_brown_bat at 10:52 PM on October 19, 2004
Bring in the riot squad!
posted by dusted at 10:53 PM on October 19, 2004
Is it interference if a New York riot cop swats at the ball?
posted by hootch at 10:53 PM on October 19, 2004
I wonder how goddam's doing. She's at the game.
posted by rocketman at 10:53 PM on October 19, 2004
Riot gear! Somewhere, Randy Levine is wishing he never made such a fucking stink about it being unsafe at Fenway last year during Game 3.
posted by jerseygirl at 10:53 PM on October 19, 2004
"A baseball game under martial law." - my brother At this point, no matter what happens, I'm just laughing.
posted by lil_brown_bat at 10:54 PM on October 19, 2004
This has now reached the stage of farce.
posted by tieguy at 10:54 PM on October 19, 2004
Remember when this game looked like it was going to be finished before midnight? Those were good times....
posted by grum@work at 10:54 PM on October 19, 2004
To all those fuckholes who always bang on about English soccer fans... HAHA! Yeah, look at your own damn sports. Cops in riot gear?
posted by Drood at 10:55 PM on October 19, 2004
Heh, it's like ten minutes to go in the Premier League. Except with the possibility for 'off the baton' ground rule doubles.
posted by etagloh at 10:55 PM on October 19, 2004
look at your own damn sports. Cops in riot gear? This is different. This is Yankees vs Red Sox.
posted by rocketman at 10:56 PM on October 19, 2004
Only in NY Drood...I guarantee you won't see that nonsense in St. Louis or Houston. Unless of course people start lobbing urine bombs...
posted by pivo at 10:57 PM on October 19, 2004
Does this change the rules? What if a ball hits a cop? If a cop touches the ball, is it interference? If ARod swats again, do the riot police get to hit him with nightsticks? So many questions.
posted by jerseygirl at 10:58 PM on October 19, 2004
Tanyon - strike zone is down a little bit, sweetie.
posted by dfleming at 10:59 PM on October 19, 2004
What tieguy said. This is a complete farce. And to make it even worse, look at the riot cops. They're not paying the least attention to the proto-riot, wherever that is -- they're all craning to see past each other to watch the pitch.
posted by lil_brown_bat at 11:00 PM on October 19, 2004
Well, what do you expect? They've got good seats.
posted by dusted at 11:01 PM on October 19, 2004
A-Rod pounded with nightsticks... OH YES! I'd PAY to see that!
posted by Drood at 11:03 PM on October 19, 2004
I hope all those cops are Mets fans.
posted by hincandenza at 11:03 PM on October 19, 2004
Drood: U.S. sports aren't without their embarrassments, but for the most part we confine our violence and rioting to post-game celebrations. Is there a single U.S. pro sports franchise that has attracted its own hooligan club?
posted by rcade at 11:03 PM on October 19, 2004
Jesus, for once, go in order in the 9th. Just go down.
posted by BoSoxFan at 11:04 PM on October 19, 2004
Interesting side note on intereference rule: If the ump deemed a double play was possible, both runners could have been called out. Wouldn't that have been fun. Jeter was on first, not second bern. Perhaps you were thinking back to Cairo being on second when jeter knocked him in on his hit
posted by pivo at 11:05 PM on October 19, 2004
Moment of truth. Let's just make sure neither Bucky Dent nor Aaron Boone are in the Stadium.
posted by psmealey at 11:05 PM on October 19, 2004
So they brought the cops out in the top of the ninth to protect the home team, and took them off the field once the visiting team took the field? Makes sense.
posted by hootch at 11:06 PM on October 19, 2004
This is funny really. I come from sports where I'm used to the officials fucking up and making the WRONG calls. Kinda cool to watch a sport where they make the right ones.
posted by Drood at 11:06 PM on October 19, 2004
RCade: Not saying soccer doesn't have it's problems. It's just usually US sports are portrayed by the media over here (I'm in Canada) as being pure as the driven snow when it comes to that sort of thing.
posted by Drood at 11:08 PM on October 19, 2004
walk, good idea. Hard to watch this.
posted by oicnub4 at 11:08 PM on October 19, 2004
Buck: A lead off walk. McCarver: As bad as a home run. He's such a fucking knob.
posted by grum@work at 11:09 PM on October 19, 2004
2 away!!
posted by psmealey at 11:12 PM on October 19, 2004
Oh god, Sierra. Loud out or whiff.
posted by lil_brown_bat at 11:13 PM on October 19, 2004
Speaking of "whiff", did Leiter say it tonight? Patrick admonished him in an interview today for not saying it yet.
posted by pivo at 11:14 PM on October 19, 2004
Why is Foulke trying to get Sierra out away? He should bust him inside.
posted by psmealey at 11:15 PM on October 19, 2004
Finally, a swing from Sierra.
posted by hootch at 11:15 PM on October 19, 2004
oh god don't walk again. gulp
posted by oicnub4 at 11:18 PM on October 19, 2004
Man alive, is this exciting!
posted by rocketman at 11:19 PM on October 19, 2004
Wow.
posted by hootch at 11:20 PM on October 19, 2004
Wow.
posted by rocketman at 11:20 PM on October 19, 2004
Just realized another thing. Why were the series set up to give the AL the extra day of rest after a game 7? More of the NLCS getting screwed.
posted by pivo at 11:20 PM on October 19, 2004
jinx.
posted by hootch at 11:20 PM on October 19, 2004
jinx!
posted by rocketman at 11:20 PM on October 19, 2004
HUZZAH!!!
posted by insomnyuk at 11:20 PM on October 19, 2004
WOW, what a thriller
posted by oicnub4 at 11:20 PM on October 19, 2004
What a relief... I thought Foulke was going to give me a heart attack.
posted by psmealey at 11:20 PM on October 19, 2004
Lordy. What a pitch. And we get to bed before 1 AM, too. Still a ridiculous pathetic waste of a game, but at least we get some sleep. See y'all tomorrow night.
posted by lil_brown_bat at 11:20 PM on October 19, 2004
woo. game 7. drama.
posted by gspm at 11:20 PM on October 19, 2004
*faints*
posted by grum@work at 11:21 PM on October 19, 2004
double-jinx!
posted by rocketman at 11:21 PM on October 19, 2004
I can't believe the Red Sox blew it, when they were just one strike aw- what?! Oh my god.
posted by hincandenza at 11:21 PM on October 19, 2004
Unbelievable. Another Game 7. The baseball gods really want to make Boston suffer.
posted by rcade at 11:21 PM on October 19, 2004
I have aged at least a decade in the last 3 nights.
posted by jerseygirl at 11:21 PM on October 19, 2004
pivo: I would guess that it either alternates every other year, or maybe it's based on the winner of the All-Star game too? Just a guess though...
posted by hootch at 11:21 PM on October 19, 2004
Seeya tomorrow!
posted by etagloh at 11:21 PM on October 19, 2004
Wow. Congrats Boston fans.
posted by jacknose at 11:22 PM on October 19, 2004
Why were the series set up to give the AL the extra day of rest after a game 7? More of the NLCS getting screwed. With respect, I think the AL champions will need an extra week of rest to get over this series.
posted by etagloh at 11:24 PM on October 19, 2004
just wondering, with like circa 600 real-time comments surrounding these red sox and yankees games whatever happened to the idea of using flickr for this game chat purpose?
posted by gspm at 11:26 PM on October 19, 2004
Unbelievable. Another Game 7. The baseball gods really want to make Boston suffer. We know. Thoe were my first words to my fiance (I feel obligated since she clearly has Stockholm Syndrome thanks to me). I just want to point out I am a mute of necessity, not malice: I haven't looked at any of the game threads since the Sox started winning. Not that anyone's missing me, just sayin'. Attention college economics majors throughout the Northeast: a decent term paper could be made out of studying economic productivity in Northeastern United States during this October. Also, what kind of riot were those cops prepped for? Some sort of all-you-can-eat todo at Sizzler, I guess. And why are their helmets from the DOT? I'd like to personally thank Curt Schilling, Trot Nixon, et al for turning great playoff moments in Sox-Yanks history into uncomfortable moments by personally thanking Jesus. How the hell did we get *two* calls reversed against the Yanks in The Stadium? Somewhere Jose Offerman just kicked his dog. Sox fan on local Fox news affiliate: "Oh, it was ay-mah-zin! My hot stopt!"
posted by yerfatma at 11:36 PM on October 19, 2004
I thought it was a pretty unobtrusive display of belief. Plus this was awesome: "We just did something that's never been done before. There's no reason we can't do it again tomorrow."
posted by lbergstr at 11:43 PM on October 19, 2004
Oops, I'm watching the press conference now, yer right fatma.
posted by lbergstr at 11:46 PM on October 19, 2004
I didn't mind Schilling's comment to Fox so much (didn't hear Nixon's), it seemed heartfelt. However, I did notice that, after Orlando Cabrera singled in the 4th, when he got to first base, he crossed himself and pointed to the sky. Just out of curiosity, with the earth's orientation and point in its rotation at that time of the day, how did he know that he was pointing to heaven instead of, y'know, the other place? Seems like you'd need an astrolabe to get that one right.
posted by psmealey at 11:48 PM on October 19, 2004
That was blood on his sock. They stitched his tendon to something else, so it wouldn't move. Someone said it before. Curt Schilling is a real man.
posted by jerseygirl at 11:54 PM on October 19, 2004
This was what the idiots at FOX kept calling the "high top" shoe... 
posted by BoSoxFan at 12:01 AM on October 20, 2004
Eh, don't get me wrong: I've been known to beg the Heavenly Host in moments like this, but it just gives me the hives when he answers every question with how he became a Christian 7 years ago. Maybe next job interview I'll relate everything to when I ate a sandwich in 1988. All the same I just dug up my SoSH password just to say thanks.
posted by yerfatma at 12:04 AM on October 20, 2004
I'm sure SoSH is a riot right now. Any goodies? [Friend called the riot incident 'baseballs of mass destruction'.]
posted by tieguy at 12:08 AM on October 20, 2004
Is it just me, or does A-Rod always look like he's wearing lipstick?
posted by DrJohnEvans at 12:18 AM on October 20, 2004
The two greatest words in sports: Game Seven
posted by BoSoxFan at 12:22 AM on October 20, 2004
That was blood on his sock. They stitched his tendon to something else, so it wouldn't move. Daaaaaayum! Does anyone have a link to that info?
posted by dusted at 12:22 AM on October 20, 2004
He talked about it during the post-game interview, dusted. I can't find a story but it'll be all over the news tomorrow. Boston Dirt Dogs has it.
posted by Bryant at 12:29 AM on October 20, 2004
Thank God the Yankees got A-Rod instead of the Sox.
posted by lbergstr at 12:39 AM on October 20, 2004
I can't believe it. I'm going through Google News, reading sports columnist after sports columnist, being told that this is actually happening, but I can't believe it. I still have Sierra's third-strike swing frozen in my head, looking like it's right behind the ball, about to hit it into the centre-field seats. I can't believe it.
posted by DrJohnEvans at 01:01 AM on October 20, 2004
I wonder how goddam's doing. She's at the game. thanks for thinking of me rocketman. got home around 1 and i'm cold and wet and i think i lost a toe somewhere on 163rd street. to give you a clue as to how my night was, this is the pencil i was using to keep score. haven't read through all the comments yet. but, regarding the arod interference thing, i was in the right field bleachers about 10 rows behind the flag pole in monument park. we really had no clue as to what was going on. people kept calling friends at home to see what the deal was. we all cringed when people started throwing shit. from what i could see it was basically mooks in the upper deck. for as bad as the bleachers get at least they generally keep it taunting and shit like that. some of the people that sit in the upper deck are just fucking idiots. the riot police threw us for a loop too. we were wondering what would happen if the ball got stuck in between a couple of them. figured they were there because of the people throwing shit. the guy sitting next to me was trying to be optimistic and said they were there so when the yankees win it in the ninth they would stop us from rushing the field. but then they left in the bottom of the inning so his theory was shot. needless to say it was a disappointing night. i usually write off losses i see by saying that at least i was able to get out to the stadium and see 2 good teams and blah, blah, blah. and, well, it was neat to be there to see these 2 battle it out. but like i said, it was disappointing. it wasn't a "drive off the gw bridge" kind of night (thank god i'm not going tomorrow). but it sucked nonetheless. so, i'm gonna go to bed soon and hope that my toe makes it back home by the morning.
posted by goddam at 01:06 AM on October 20, 2004
Daaaaaayum! Does anyone have a link to that info? It's in the wire reports. They used sutures to keep his tendon in place. Damn. And I take back everything I said about Mark Bellhorn.
posted by etagloh at 01:15 AM on October 20, 2004
Curt Schilling: the Kerri Strug of the 2004 ALCS.
posted by lil_brown_bat at 06:28 AM on October 20, 2004
I wonder if Jesus will help me with my shipping today.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 08:46 AM on October 20, 2004
So Rocky and Apollo come out in the final round, all bloody and beat to shit...
posted by BoSoxFan at 09:39 AM on October 20, 2004
I got no problems with Schill's comments about God, and I'm a die-hard atheist. He's never been one of those guys who invokes Jesus after every game. He was pretty quiet about it even tonight -- he didn't pray for a win, he just wanted the strength to compete. I'm OK with that.
posted by Bryant at 09:50 AM on October 20, 2004
I've got no issue with it because it was sincere. I'm not a big religion person either. It wasn't like he was accepting "Best Rap Video" for "Smack the Ho in the Fucking Biscuits" and then said "I'd like to thank all the thugs, playas, playettes and bitches out there, and the Lord Almighty also"
posted by jerseygirl at 10:06 AM on October 20, 2004
damn touchpad erased half my stuff. I can't remember everything I was writing. Well, to be quick: anyway, it was sincere and at a moment that would be understandable to feel gracious towards your faith, whatever that may be.
posted by jerseygirl at 10:11 AM on October 20, 2004
one of the vendors i deal with here just offered me tickets for tonight. if the yankees don't win please pray for me that i make it home alive.
posted by goddam at 10:11 AM on October 20, 2004
It wasn't like he was accepting "Best Rap Video" Right, it was for a baseball game. How's that different exactly?
posted by yerfatma at 10:13 AM on October 20, 2004
be careful out there, goddam.
posted by jerseygirl at 10:13 AM on October 20, 2004
Cause in a baseball game, one isn't often acting in ways that contradict one's faith. Rap videos are not known for their religiousity.
posted by Bryant at 10:26 AM on October 20, 2004
Are you kidding? Nearly every one of them has a Messiah complex!!!
posted by rocketman at 10:45 AM on October 20, 2004
"Crucifixion ain't no fiction So called chosen frozen Apology made to who ever pleases Still they got me like Jesus " -Chuck D
posted by rocketman at 10:46 AM on October 20, 2004
A conflict that will set neighbor against neighbor.
posted by yerfatma at 10:48 AM on October 20, 2004
yerfatma, I like the way the guy in your link turned down tickets because he brings bad luck to the Red Sox: UPDATE: Glad tidings for Boston fans. Just turned down tickets for tonight's game at the Stadium. Can't burden the boys again with my personal 0-5 lifetime postseason Sox record (0-2 in '86, 0-1 in '90, 0-2 in '04).
posted by dusted at 11:10 AM on October 20, 2004
Ahhh - yer due dusted! Yer Due!
posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 11:36 AM on October 20, 2004
My wife asked me what Boston's chances were when NY went up 3-0 in the series. My explanation: "Boston is lying on the ground, face down. New York is standing above them, with their foot on their neck. They have a .357 Magnum pointing at the back of Boston's head, and they've pulled the trigger and the bullet is halfway down the barrel." Her response: "Oh. Not good then. And you need to stop playing those video games."
posted by grum@work at 11:43 AM on October 20, 2004
yerfatma, I like the way the guy in your link turned down tickets because he brings bad luck to the Red Sox: I saw that and thought, "There's a true fan." I don't know if I could do that. Then again I've only attended one Sox-Yanks tilt in real life and the Sox won 8-3. But it wasn't a playoff game and Dwight Evans hit a home run, so I'm not sure how applicable that would be. "And you need to stop playing those video games." Yuh, in real life it's not so easy to get a refund from a hooker.
posted by yerfatma at 11:52 AM on October 20, 2004
"I don't know; I haven't seen a replay . . . He was coming at my gut with his glove. I have the right to be in the line. It was a big momentum change. I don't want the umpires to meet anymore because when they do the calls go against the Yankees."
posted by yerfatma at 11:53 AM on October 20, 2004
"I don't want the umpires to meet anymore because when they do the calls go against the Yankees." Jesus, what a whiney little girl. He needs to get plunked again. This time in the junk.
posted by DirkDiggler at 12:12 PM on October 20, 2004
to give you a clue as to how my night was, this is the pencil i was using to keep score. goddam, I sure hope the Yankees spring for the non-toxic pencils. I personally prefer fingernails. Game 4 and 5 were spent annhilating both hands, Game 6 spent cleaning up with the proper manicurial tools (because there was nothing left).
posted by YukonGold at 12:18 PM on October 20, 2004
I never cease to be amazed at the number of men who use the word "girl" as the ultimate insult. May you all have daughters, so that you get to see, up close and personal, the look in their eyes when you make that stupid little slip of the tongue.
posted by lil_brown_bat at 12:19 PM on October 20, 2004
You wouldn't understand. To call a man a girl is an insult that goes back before the last ice age. You can call a girl a man if you want, I won't be offended. You little girl.
posted by DirkDiggler at 12:22 PM on October 20, 2004
I never cease to be amazed at the number of men who use the word "girl" as the ultimate insult. May you all have daughters, so that you get to see, up close and personal, the look in their eyes when you make that stupid little slip of the tongue. I use "girl" as an insult too. Big deal.
posted by jerseygirl at 12:27 PM on October 20, 2004
yukon, i figured the pencil was less toxic than the nail polish i'm wearing. although i am a bit queasy today. but that could just be the impending sense of doom that i'm feeling.
posted by goddam at 12:28 PM on October 20, 2004
Despite hating both teams, I hope the Sox win tonight and then the media can start writing articles about how by beating the yankees in a game 7, the curse will be lifted. Then they are promptly swept by the Astros/Cardinals in the WS.
posted by corpse at 12:30 PM on October 20, 2004
Except everyone's already writing off the WS, just like they did last year, claiming that the ALCS is the "real" WS.
posted by rocketman at 12:34 PM on October 20, 2004
...Then they are promptly swept by the Astros/Cardinals in the WS That's almost a certainty. Whoever survives this battle will be emotionally and physically spent with very little time to recover. But if the Red Sox beat the Yankees tonight, the way they did it, will be bigger than any world series. FOX will probably lose 50% of its audience. Now the real question is: IF the Red Sox win tonight, will it be remembered as the greatest comeback in MLB history, or the biggest choke in MLB history? I vote comeback...
posted by DirkDiggler at 12:38 PM on October 20, 2004
I never cease to be amazed by the amount of energy spent huffing about things that do not matter instead of things that do. I understand all the crapo-rhetoric about "owning" the language to frame the terms of the argument and control where things go, but do you honestly think eradicating the word "girl" from men's vocabulary will fix an existing problem? And do you think this is the proper forum for your Reducation Camp? It's like if everything stayed the same but you removed all racial epithets from general consciousness; it wouldn't improve things one bit. Symptoms v. disease and all that rot. Or "gangrene". Whatever's the proper term.
posted by yerfatma at 12:41 PM on October 20, 2004
I say choke. Jeter gives it too much clutch, and not enough gas.
posted by rocketman at 12:41 PM on October 20, 2004
never cease to be amazed by the amount of energy spent huffing about things that do not matter instead of things that do... Let's not kick a man - er, girl when she's down...
posted by DirkDiggler at 12:45 PM on October 20, 2004
Dibble and Patrick are calling A-Rod's slap at the ball a clean play, using this as an example for whiny Sox fans: "If it was Trot Nixon, you'd be applauding him for trying to get on base." I gotta disagree bigtime, I still think there should be integrity no matter what the stakes. And on the overturned homerun call, I totally expected Matsui to come clean and say it was a homerun. Aren't the Japanese known for their honesty? I bet it was killing him to not say anything.
posted by usfbull at 12:46 PM on October 20, 2004
More likely a scenerio is Steinbrenner (or the fans last night. Yowch.) would have killed him if he said anything.
posted by jerseygirl at 12:48 PM on October 20, 2004
I use "girl" as an insult too. Your gender doesn't give you a pass. Big deal. Tell me that when you have a daughter.
posted by lil_brown_bat at 12:48 PM on October 20, 2004
Do you have a daughter, LBB?
posted by jerseygirl at 12:49 PM on October 20, 2004
cat fight!
posted by DirkDiggler at 12:52 PM on October 20, 2004
Greatest comeback - they had to fight every step more than the Yanks had to blow every chance (e.g. coming from behind in games 4 & 5, having a guy with a dislocated tendon work 7 solid innings). Not that Yanks haven't done their share of choking.
posted by kokaku at 12:52 PM on October 20, 2004
yerfatma: I never cease to be amazed by the amount of energy spent huffing about things that do not matter instead of things that do. I understand all the crapo-rhetoric about "owning" the language to frame the terms of the argument and control where things go, but do you honestly think eradicating the word "girl" from men's vocabulary will fix an existing problem? And do you think this is the proper forum for your Reducation Camp? So let's see: - One comment is an "amaz[ing]...amount of energy sepnt huffing..."; - You, apparently, are the arbitrator of what does and doesn't matter; - I, apparently, made some attempt to "eradicat[e] the word 'girl' from men's vocabulary"; and - I'm setting up some kind of "Reducation[sic] Camp". At the rate you build strawmen, I'm amazed you can get into your house. It's disingenuous to claim that no harm is done by using the term "girl" as an insult, and it's dishonest to claim that anyone who points out such harm is trying to set up a "Reducation Camp".
posted by lil_brown_bat at 12:53 PM on October 20, 2004
Wow, she's tough. A bit sensitive, but tough...
posted by DirkDiggler at 12:55 PM on October 20, 2004
LOL Dirk.
posted by jerseygirl at 12:56 PM on October 20, 2004
do you honestly think eradicating the word "girl" from men's vocabulary will fix an existing problem? I do. At the very least, we'll start calling each other fags more often. I thought LBB has a good point with what was, by most standards, a mild callout. Anyone who can't handle that rebuke should learn to take his medicine like a man.
posted by rcade at 01:06 PM on October 20, 2004
Dibble and Patrick are calling A-Rod's slap at the ball a clean play Well, it isn't. In fact, that specific act is covered in the MLB Umpire manual: quotation from section 6.1: "[w]hile contact may occur between a fielder and runner during a tag attempt, a runner is not allowed to use his hands or arms to commit an obviously malicious or unsportsmanlike act such as grabbing, tackling, intentionally slapping at the baseball, punching, kicking, flagrantly using his arms or forearms, etc. to commit an intentional act of interference unrelated to running the bases." from The Hardball Times If they didn't call it, I'd half-expect Cabrera to lay a bunt down the next inning and do a spin-kick to pitcher's head when he came close.
posted by grum@work at 01:20 PM on October 20, 2004
*yawn* I grow tired of such declamatory jabber.
posted by DirkDiggler at 01:20 PM on October 20, 2004
Enough! This bickering is pointless. Lord Vader, release him!
posted by rocketman at 01:29 PM on October 20, 2004
i heard the dibble/patrick think too and sort of agree with them. i don't think it was bush-league. i may be mistaken, but i think arod got away with that play earlier in the year. so why not try it again? maybe it would've been a better idea to just plow into whoever was in his way, but he made a split second decision and unfortunately chose poorly. i'm not saying the play was legal but i wouldn't call it bush-league. and grum, there's a big difference between swatting a ball out of a glove and spin-kicking someone. there was nothing dirty about the play, it just wasn't legal. re: fan behaviour last night. please don't call them fans. they are undesirable individuals who were unfortunately able to attend the game. and if i were a man i don't know how much i'd really be insulted being called a girl by someone who feels the need to call himself dirkdiggler.
posted by goddam at 01:31 PM on October 20, 2004
Who do you suppose Roger Clemens is rooting for tonight? As a fan and as a player. I've got to suspect Yankees on both counts, but you never know, he may be rooting for the story with the Sox.
posted by Bernreuther at 01:40 PM on October 20, 2004
I bet he's rooting for the Astros. :)
posted by jerseygirl at 01:44 PM on October 20, 2004
and if i were a man i don't know how much i'd really be insulted being called a girl by someone who feels the need to call himself dirkdiggler. I am a man and I am not insulted by being called a girl. If I insulted anyone else by using the term then they need to look at how I used it. My little girl jumps up and down and screams when she doesn't get her way. She is 18 months old, and she is the most beautiful living being I have ever seen. She is the joy in my life. And, I believe all little girls and boys act this way. I should have used the term "baby, or infant" but it has much less impact with the point I was trying to make. (i.e. Dennis Miller admits he wouldn't be where he is today without using the f word in every sentence.) Good points were made by many, but had very little to do with baseball. They were offended, not me. And I use dirkdiggler because it's just funny to me. Nothing else. Stop trying to read into it. Let's talk baseball.
posted by DirkDiggler at 01:49 PM on October 20, 2004
but that could just be the impending sense of doom that i'm feeling. Like Red Sox fans are going to have any empathy for that (no offense intended goddam). For the first time in a long long time (childhood), I'm not expecting the Sox to lose. Please note, I'm not claiming or expecting they are going to win tonight either. I honestly don't know what the hell is going to happen.
posted by trox at 02:24 PM on October 20, 2004
Like Red Sox fans are going to have any empathy for that (no offense intended goddam). none taken. i was waiting for a sox fan to comment on that:-) i'm just a doom and glood type of person.
posted by goddam at 02:28 PM on October 20, 2004
For the first time in a long long time (childhood), I'm not expecting the Sox to lose. I feel the same way too. Haven't felt that way since the game Pudge hit the foul pole. I knew the Sox would lose in the Bucky Dent one-game playoff. I don't necessarily think it's 'Mo', just a gut feeling. Eerie...
posted by DirkDiggler at 02:31 PM on October 20, 2004
i'm just a doom and glood type of person glood? Wait, I'm a glood and I take offense to that.
posted by DirkDiggler at 02:33 PM on October 20, 2004
sorry 'bout that. I'll shut up now.
posted by DirkDiggler at 02:34 PM on October 20, 2004
lil_brown_bat: please keep badgering and annoying everyone! I'm starting to think you're personally responsible for the Yankee collapse. Don't stop now...
posted by dusted at 02:42 PM on October 20, 2004
yeah, wait a minute, didn't we tell LBB to stay the hell away from the thread last night? DO IT! TAKE ONE FOR THE TEAM! Don't be selfish...
posted by Bernreuther at 02:50 PM on October 20, 2004
doh! sorry. gloom. (no need to apologize dirk.) was a long night. and tonight's gonna be even longer. dusted, i noticed a lot of bad yankee mojo going around message boards and blogs and such. i'm trying to counter that by bringining my mom with me tonight. she's been a good luck charm this year. plus today is mantle's birthday (her favorite player). am i grasping at straws? yes...yes i am.
posted by goddam at 02:50 PM on October 20, 2004
You're doing a good job of it. Here's what I was just about to post: I think I have a crush on goddam. She: a. wrote this excellent and profane commentary b. scored the game c. proved the maddog heritage of her name by chewing the pencil down d. all while wearing nail polish
posted by dusted at 02:56 PM on October 20, 2004
aw shucks. thanks dusted. well, i'm off. i'll hopefully get more pics than i did last night.
posted by goddam at 03:11 PM on October 20, 2004
damn, this is gonna be comment #216! isn't that a record for SportsFilter? I just hope Game 7 is as exciting as Game 6 was! Wow, was that a classic!
posted by jasonbondshow at 03:15 PM on October 20, 2004
Post the final score pic on the board, whoever wins...
posted by DirkDiggler at 03:15 PM on October 20, 2004
For the first time in a long long time (childhood), I'm not expecting the Sox to lose. Makes one of us. Are you trying to jinx the whole thing right now? There are plenty of opportunities between now and 8:20. Think of all the cracks in the road you might step on. I personally think "[sic]" suggests a lack of confidence in one's argument. This is a goddamn messageboard, not my senior thesis. I can talk reel pretty when I needs to. If you have confidence in your arguments, refute mine, not the mess I made trying to communicate them. That's enough on that; there are far more important things to worry about.
posted by yerfatma at 03:26 PM on October 20, 2004
3 hours and 50 minutes to go. I'm dying.
posted by jerseygirl at 03:43 PM on October 20, 2004
If you're looking for a way to take your mind off the certain-to-be-intense Game 7, there's a Game 6 going on right now. St. Louis is ahead, 2-1. Pujols with the long ball.
posted by rocketman at 03:52 PM on October 20, 2004
And I have to work at the dining hall for every one of these games...where we close at midnite in Atlanta. Luckily, we have TV's. Consequently, the last 3 nights, we have got NO work done on time because everyone sits around watching the game. I expect no less tonight =)
posted by jmd82 at 03:58 PM on October 20, 2004
there's a Game 6 going on right now. And I hope there's a Game 7 tomorrow, just to even out the bullpen situations a little bit, no matter which AL team shows up for the Series.
posted by yerfatma at 04:13 PM on October 20, 2004
Agreed, yerfatma. Though I have to say that I love the fact that we already know it's going to be a World Series between NL Central and AL East.
posted by rocketman at 04:35 PM on October 20, 2004
strike zone looks inconsistent again already... we're off to a great start.