September 30, 2002

Is Tice Toast?:
Minnesota's season is turning into an embarassing debacle. Coach Tice can't motivate his team or control his players. Will he survive the season? I give him a 40% chance of staying.

I don't feel bad because I despise the Vikings. I hate them more than I hate the Bears, but last night's game was embarassing.

posted by shackbar to football at 01:25 AM - 11 comments

Tice must go. I hate the vikings, but he must go. For two reasons- (1) Refusal to confront Moss. (2) Refusal to field a team that is even decent. Tice is a complete moron. He longs to coddle his star players, such as Moss. Dennis Green did the same thing and felt the consequences. Secondly, I really haven't seen a more incompetent game played by any coach. What did he do during the offseason? Not much is my guess. I really can't recall the last time I've seen this caliber of talent and this total lack of coaching talent. Tice is a hack and doesn't belong in the NFL. He can't even get his own players under control. In short, he's as dumb as he looks. His special teams coach needs a lobotomy.

posted by ttrendel at 02:06 AM on September 30, 2002

As inflammatory as that last post was, he refuses to deal with the problems. He will let Moss stomp over him all season. He deserves it. He's more of a stomping mat than a coach. I present you with the worst team in the NFL- the Vikes. The coach has thrown down the reigns. Good riddance. Perhaps we'll see what Culpepper and Moss are made of. My bid- extreme lack of talent and discipline. Moss is much more likely to catch herpes than a touchdown pass. Culpepper just needs to get off the team.

posted by ttrendel at 02:17 AM on September 30, 2002

ttrendel-- now you know what it feels like to be a Lions fan.

posted by tj at 07:30 AM on September 30, 2002

Who goes first, Tice or LeBeau?

posted by elsoltano at 09:07 AM on September 30, 2002

Hey, if XFL MVP Tommy Maddox doesn't step in yesterday, the Steelers would be looking pretty awful right now too. Bill Cowher should be sending a gift basket to Stamford, CT to thank Vince McMahon.

posted by Conquistador at 09:50 AM on September 30, 2002

The Rams are 0-4. What changes should they make? (sorry to go o/t, but I didn't think it really needed a new thread).

posted by Ufez Jones at 11:20 AM on September 30, 2002

Tice should trade Moss for whatever he can get. Minnesota made a mistake by hiring him right away instead of looking at the other coaches around, but I wouldn't blame their collapse on him so much as a terrible defense and a selfish, lazy WR. The Rams are 0-4 because Mike Martz has an inflated sense of ego. Give Marshall the damn ball.

posted by owillis at 11:32 AM on September 30, 2002

The Vikes just need an o-line. How many probowlers have they lost since 98. Stuesse, Stringer. Add that to the loss of Smith and Carter, and Culpepper has no idea what to do back there. Bennett isn't a big time RB, and Duante isn't quick enough to make the smart read. IMO, Moss isn't the promlem at all. Although he did look stupid last night crying to Culpepper about leading him, instead of throwing it behind him, and then missing the open catch. Can we please have one of our old QBs back? I'll take Gannon or Johnson. Heck, even Cunningham or Sean Salisbury would be better than Duante right now. Just a few thoughts from a Moss and Vikings fan.

posted by emoeby at 01:06 PM on September 30, 2002

Every time I've seen Moss play this year, he's been wimpy around the ball, lackadaisical in his routes, and petulant on the sideline. That is not the play of a 70-million-dollar player, nor does it inspire confidence from his teammates, no matter what platitudes they spew forth to the media. Culpepper looked good but inexperienced last year, but looks confused this year. No leadership on the field, no leadership on the sideline. Hosed season, coming right up.

posted by ahhgrr at 03:58 PM on September 30, 2002

Yes he is. I go with Lebeau first. Maybe a shakeup in Arizona to salvage something for the few fans that show up.

posted by brent at 07:56 PM on October 01, 2002

The problem with the bengals (ok, the biggest problem) is that getting rid of the headcouch doesn't mean getti8ng rid of the entire staff (mike brown, loyal to a fault). I would rather see Ken Anderson (the QB coach) go, that man has ruined more promising (and even proven) talent than drugs.

posted by mick at 10:43 PM on October 02, 2002

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