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March 08, 2006
NHL 2006 Trade Deadline 3PM Thursday: With salary cap Issues now in the mix and only five teams with no chance for playoff berths, who's buying, who's selling, who is clueless ... here's a look at the teams in the East.
posted by skydivedad to hockey at 06:52 AM - 75 comments
wingnut I was saving the West for tomorrow but your link is better anyway, Thanks.... I see Edmonton going for Curtis Joseph but with his stellar performance against your Red Wings squad last night Mr. Gretzky may make a push for the playoffs and keep CuJo instead. I'm very curious about the stance of the Leafs especially with the acquistions they made in the off season, with the move back to 40 remaining days instead of 26 for the deadline I don't see how Toronto can't try to make a push. The busiest trade-deadline day was in March 2003, when 46 players changed teams in 24 transactions. There were 20 deals involving 32 players at the last deadline, in March 2004, with alot of teams now facing salary cap issues I expect alot fewer deals this time around. Olli Jokinen a pending free agent anyway is the primo prize this year but with Florida only 12 pts. out of a playoff spot Keenan might decide to make a playoff push. I did hear an exciting rumor concerning the Rangers making a move much bigger then the expected adding some defensive depth..... Perhaps a block buster that positions them for a serious Stanley Cup Championship run.... We may not have as much trading action as in the past but it's time for teams to put up or shut up..........
posted by skydivedad at 07:57 AM on March 08, 2006
According to my sources, Leafs are actively shopping Belfour for Bertuzzi. Which begs the question: Can both teams lose a trade?
posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 08:08 AM on March 08, 2006
I don't see Lou trading Kozlov or Brylin, but then again I didn't think he would trade Sykora either. I also don't think Tkachuk is the type of guy Lou would bring to the Devils. If New Jersey does make any moves it won't be anything we could have predicted. On a side note: last night Stan Fischler predicted Bertuzzi going to Ottowa.
posted by njsk8r20 at 08:14 AM on March 08, 2006
From the article, for DrJohnEvans: The Caps may want to investigate the interest in some other veteran players like winger Jeff Friesen
posted by qbert72 at 08:29 AM on March 08, 2006
I'm going back to bed.
posted by DrJohnEvans at 08:37 AM on March 08, 2006
I'm very curious as to see amongst those teams on the bubble which ones are going to make a push, and wich ones will fold? My guess is that Keenan's a competitor and will make a run for it, (go Panthers!), & say that Toronto's history, + fan base make it all but impossible to fold up the tent. Almost the same could be said of Boston, they may be even in a harder spot. With the Joe Thornton trade they either claim this to be a rebuilding year, or, make a run for it. But if they don't make it . . . what was this year about. Playoff hockey! (plenty of fingers crossed for Game 7 OVERTIMEs!!!!!). Go Wings
posted by RedStrike at 08:44 AM on March 08, 2006
Oh, I never meant to insinuate that the Leafs would make a trade to buoy their assault on the playoffs. They're done. Sell Mortimer! SELLLLLLLLL !!! I have no idea why Ottawa would trade for anything other than a goaltender. Florida is ultra done. 12 points is way too many and there are several teams between them and the spot.
posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 08:54 AM on March 08, 2006
The Rangers are going the distance just as long as Henrik stays sharp and Jagr keeps lighting the lamp
posted by Eddie66 at 09:03 AM on March 08, 2006
The Rangers are going the distance ........ Possible but Detroit has 5 guys with over 20 goals. The most in the league of any team by far, just be glad they play in the west. (a rant I'll hold off making for now) Jagr is a stud for sure and Lundquist is a delight to watch in the pipes but don't expect the other squads in the East to just lay-down because Jagr's on the ice. This concept of the Rangers staying pat and going all the way doesn't fly with me.. maybe because I'm not a Rangers fan but I believe they can get to the promised land by taking a more aggressive stance with the trade deadline approaching. It would be a shame to waste Jagr's effort if they didn't. IMHO only. Then there is the Canes, if your counting them as a lay-down because Cole's out (could very well be back for the playoffs) your sadly mistaken. Then there's the Sens, Sabre's, Flyers and Devils to content with....... out West besides the Red Wings there's the Stars, Flames, Aves, Preds, Canucks who could make a run for the Cup with the right trade, I don't see how you figure the Rangers are"going the distance" staying pat.
posted by skydivedad at 09:24 AM on March 08, 2006
I agree the Panthers best move would be to sell. They have a TON of catching up to do, and as Mr. McSmokey notes, teams between Fla & that last playoff spot that are in much better position, (Atlanta, and the Leafs being in the stronger challengers). But I always appreciate it when an unexpected makes that near miraculous, (sp?) finish to make it to the playoffs, (Pittsburgh would be miraculous). The Rangers going the distance? Not this year. Henrik is still to untested, (the Olympics are a class act, but not the Cup chase), Jagr will attract more attention Lindsey Lohan's nipple, and the competition is just too fierce. I call Carolina's golden season to carry them to the finals in the east. (The Carolina apple did not drop that far from the Detroit tree). (Yes, I am aware that it was Hartford before, but Karmanos & Rutherford grew up and worked in & around the Detroit hockey scene, and since they have taken over, Carolina has worked hard to take over). I will root for my Wings in the West, but worry about, in no particular order, Dallas, Nashville & Calgary. Also, Edmonton will upset whomever they face in the first round. Go Wings. Go Game 7 Overtime, (double? triple, oh yeah. Hockey at it's best!)
posted by RedStrike at 09:25 AM on March 08, 2006
One comment the players and the owners are getting overpayed and the fans getting skrew,
posted by r-fairbanks at 09:28 AM on March 08, 2006
One comment the players and the owners are getting overpayed and the fans getting skrew,
posted by r-fairbanks at 09:29 AM on March 08, 2006
I haven't received any skrew? Where do I get some. According to my sources, Leafs are actively shopping Belfour for Bertuzzi. Which begs the question: Can both teams lose a trade? hahahaha. I hope your source is full of shit cause that would be horrible. I'd rather give up Belfour for a third round pick than for him. Leafs are done. If they do make moves, they should get young guys and draft picks -- not more has-beens. Team has enough. At least he'd be near the lawsuit. Also, Edmonton will upset whomever they face in the first round. If they get a good goalie, they can upset beyond the first round. Though they have to worry about Anaheim in 9th place first.
posted by mkn at 09:48 AM on March 08, 2006
I do believe that the Leafs will be shopping and not selling. If the Belfour/Bertuzzi deal goes through, it would tell everybody (and the fans) that they're selling. How can you make a push for the playoffs without your number one goalie? Eddie's old, but he has mucho playoff experience. Coach Quinn wouldn't surivive, so he has no choice but to try and make a push. skydivedad, sorry for stepping on your post for tomorrow, but thanks for the kudos on the link. I agree with you about CuJo. They were saying last night that CuJo wanted to stay in Phoenix, and that he's moved his family down there. I have a lot of respect for CuJo after what happened with the Wings (I'm a homer, but they dropped a HUGE turd on CuJo during the Hasek soap opera). I also agree with Weedy on Florida. They are definately done like dinner. No rats getting thrown on the ice this year. I think that behind the scenes, there is a full-scale mutiny going on down there. Nobody wants to re-sign with them, and I think when it's all said and done, the words "rebuilding" will be etched in stone outside the BankAtlantic Center. RedStrike, Edmonton's gotta stay in the hunt if they're going to upset anybody. Wings in five.
posted by wingnut4life at 11:07 AM on March 08, 2006
Almost the same could be said of Boston, they may be even in a harder spot. With the Joe Thornton trade they either claim this to be a rebuilding year, or, make a run for it. But if they don't make it . . . what was this year about. Boston is rumored to be offering Samsonov and Leetch right now. Also Murray, but I'm not sure who in their right mind would pick him up with that disgusting salary of his. They're pretty much sellers at this point. Not mathematically eliminated, but they'd need some serious luck to make it to the playoffs. And as far as the Thornton trade goes, I didn't like it when it happened, I still think they could have gotten more back, but the team has had a better record and has been more fun to watch since the trade. So there's that.
posted by Samsonov14 at 11:56 AM on March 08, 2006
Ooooo-oooo! Lang for Samsonov! Pleeeeeeeeze?
posted by wingnut4life at 11:58 AM on March 08, 2006
Sure, Wings in 5, anyone else and I go Oilers. I thought Boston moving Thornton was a good move for all. He reminds me of Roenick, alot of talent, alot of promise, alot of completely disappointing performances interspersed with outstanding ones, (great ones step up on a consistant basis). Speaking of alot of talent, promise, yet disappointing performance, Samsonov as a Wing? Not thrilled. Watched him as a Viper, followed that into the NHL. Eh, another version of the current model Fedorov. Leech, doesn't he have a hard time standing on ice?
posted by RedStrike at 12:28 PM on March 08, 2006
Lang for Samsonov! Pleeeeeeeeze? Why would Boston do this? Their interest is in dumping salary for youth/picks.
posted by qbert72 at 12:41 PM on March 08, 2006
I agree with you on Samsonov, Red. I just think that if he had a change of scenery, he might blossom. Shit, who am I kidding? I'm still rooting for Joey Harrington! And Leetch? He should have been Chelios' workout partner in the off season, then he'd be in better shape. Speaking of Vipers, I sure do miss 'em. I never had to pay for a game with all the complimentary tickets I got, and all I had to do was wait 'till after the first period and I could sneak down to the glass!
posted by wingnut4life at 12:44 PM on March 08, 2006
Why would Boston do this? Why did they get rid of Thornton?
posted by wingnut4life at 12:45 PM on March 08, 2006
Roloson to the Oilers for a first rounder and a conditional pick.
posted by garfield at 12:53 PM on March 08, 2006
Good trade Edmonton - but I was hoping they'd land Cujo. That would have been a perfect fit.
posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 01:00 PM on March 08, 2006
Agreed. Too perfect. They would've really made some noise in April and May, and probably June. Still, Roloson is a good goalie. Not sure how he'll play with Edmonton's style, though. The Oil play a bit more wide open than the Wild.
posted by garfield at 01:05 PM on March 08, 2006
They would've really made some noise in April and May, and probably June. Nah, CuJo's only good for beating the Stars.
posted by qbert72 at 01:08 PM on March 08, 2006
Very good trade. Roloson is a very capable goaltender. I once thought that he was the odd man out in Minnesota because Fernandez was Lemaire's nephew, but Manny's just having a better year. Now Roloson has a better chance at being number one. How about the Oilers placing Morrison on waivers last night? I didn't see the game, but why would they pull Conklin in OT? He wasn't hurt or anything, was he? My crystal ball tells me that Luongo is going to Toronto. (Yeah right)
posted by wingnut4life at 01:13 PM on March 08, 2006
My crystal ball tells me that Toronto is going golfing.
posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 01:15 PM on March 08, 2006
My crystal ball will go Herr McSmokey's one better and say that Senor Belfour has but six or seven starts left in his Hall of Fame career.
posted by chicobangs at 01:30 PM on March 08, 2006
Weedy, wouldn't they go curling? Eh?
posted by wingnut4life at 01:34 PM on March 08, 2006
They put Morrison in for the shootout because he has the better shootout record -- which I think was a dumb move (they lost anyway) since in doing so they are pissing off their starter (played 65 minutes for nothing -- is the loss awarded to Morrisson?). But if they had a deal in the works, I guess pissing off their former number one wouldn't be such a big deal. I'm surprised that it was Roloson though. Not because it's a bad deal, but because doing a deal like this pretty much means that the Wild are throwing in the towel on the season. They just made the team that they are trying to catch, for the last playoff spot, better. Wild are gone.
posted by mkn at 02:10 PM on March 08, 2006
mkn, from what I remember, goalies aren't assigned a loss for a shootout loss anyway. Just regulation and/or overtime. I think that's what I read six months ago. Anyone is free to correct me.
posted by DrJohnEvans at 02:18 PM on March 08, 2006
Sharks acquire Nieminen from Rangers for third-round pick. Boston Bruins claimed right wing Mariusz Czerkzwski off waivers from the Toronto Maple Leafs.
posted by njsk8r20 at 06:44 PM on March 08, 2006
Jose Theodore traded to the Avalanche for Abeischer. Does Lacroix owe Theo's dad money?
posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 06:48 PM on March 08, 2006
They were better off with Aebischer. Does not compute.
posted by mkn at 07:20 PM on March 08, 2006
If Theodore turns it around, they're better off with Theodore. Next year, that is.
posted by fabulon7 at 07:40 PM on March 08, 2006
Lou Lamoriello does make a move. Ken Klee for prospect Alexander Suglobov. Spector thinks this is not so good for the Devils but I'm gonna have to disagree. NJ has won three cups during Klee's career and I'm sure that will invigorate Klee. If the Devils needed anything it is a heavy shot on the point. NJ has plenty of young forwards in the system so Suglobov will not be that big of a loss. Lou made a couple of bad moves at the beginning of the season so I'm sure he was careful about this one.
posted by njsk8r20 at 08:34 PM on March 08, 2006
Here in Edmonton pretty much everyone I know was hoping for CuJo. He's remembered fondly. We miss you CuJo, come finish your career here! Roloson is definitely a big upgrade over the other guys. Jussi started the season strong but started to look more and more like Tommy Salo as the season wore on. Conklin has been occasionally decent, but mostly bad, and sometimes brutal. He was pretty angry last night, and I can't say as I blame him. He didn't exactly have a great game, but he hung in there and gave the Oil a chance to win. Still, throwing your helmet is bush league, and it might have affected Morrison's performance in the shootout. I saw Morrison give him a little "don't look at me, I didn't do it" shrug as he was getting ready. Morrison getting waived surprised me. He was the one out of the three who actually looked like he knew how to stop most of the soft goals. It seemed to me that the team trusted him more than the other guys. I'm finding I'm fairly excited about Roloson, actually. That .910 save percentage looks very nice indeed compared to the .860ish (ouch!) we've been getting from the three stooges.
posted by alex_reno at 09:05 PM on March 08, 2006
Kings have improved a bit -- Parrish and Sopel aren't going to propel them to the finals, but they're good depth players and they'll help the Kings.
posted by mkn at 09:53 PM on March 08, 2006
mkn, I don't think that the Wild are throwing in the towel just yet. Roloson wasn't doing any good with Minnesota sitting on the bench. Besides, from a look at his stats, the Wild's new backup, Josh Harding, should be capable.
posted by wingnut4life at 07:11 AM on March 09, 2006
Another move by the Devils: The NY Islanders have dealt defenseman Brad Lukowich to the New Jersey Devils in exchange for a third round pick. So the Devils continue to bolster their defensive depth in preparation for the postseason while the Isles continuing their rebuilding program. Now that's what I'm talking a-boot.
posted by njsk8r20 at 10:24 AM on March 09, 2006
Vancouver aquires D Sean Brown from New Jersey for a 4th round pick.
posted by wingnut4life at 10:59 AM on March 09, 2006
Anaheim acquires D Sean O'Donnell from Phoenix for player/pick TBA.
posted by wingnut4life at 11:29 AM on March 09, 2006
Philadelphia acquires D Denis Gauthier from Phoenix for F Josh Gratton and two 2006 2nd round picks. 2 Hours, 43 Minutes 'till trade deadline...
posted by wingnut4life at 11:44 AM on March 09, 2006
Wow, the pace is going to get faster. If you are still interested in tracking the trades, just go to this link and click on the part that says "Click To Launch Live Tracker" at the top by the header.
posted by wingnut4life at 11:54 AM on March 09, 2006
From the article, for DrJohnEvans: The Caps may want to investigate the interest in some other veteran players like winger Jeff Friesen. Jeff just went back to Anaheim in exchange for a second round pick. What a career for Freisen, gets traded from Anaheim to NJ. The Devils beat the ducks for the cup, a couple seasons later, he's a duck again. Looks like Doc won't have to worry about him for awhile, unless the Ducks meet the Sens in the finals. Thanks for the link wingnut.
posted by njsk8r20 at 12:40 PM on March 09, 2006
Rumor has it that Recchi is on his way to Raleigh. Don't know for whom yet. Hopefully Recchi knows how to make a play clock run a half second faster.
posted by NoMich at 12:43 PM on March 09, 2006
Well, you can take Ollie Jokinen off the trading block as he just signed a 4 year/$21 million extension with the Panthers.
posted by NoMich at 12:50 PM on March 09, 2006
That reminds me of a trivia question, who is the only player to win 2 cups with a team and a cup with another team inbetween?
posted by njsk8r20 at 12:53 PM on March 09, 2006
Further rumor on the Recchi deal: it's only for the Hurricanes' 2nd round draft pick this year. Also, the Hurricanes can't re-sign him during the off season, clearing his way back to Pittsburgh. Truly a rental player.
posted by NoMich at 12:57 PM on March 09, 2006
That reminds me of a trivia question, who is the only player to win 2 cups with a team and a cup with another team inbetween? Alright sk8r - I'll bite. I've racked my noodle and can't come up with anything. Why do I think Detriot or NJ is involved?
posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 01:06 PM on March 09, 2006
Colorado could the team involved as well, Weedy. However, I can't think of anybody either. TSN.ca is now reporting on the pending trade between the Pens and Canes. They report different trade details though.
posted by NoMich at 01:08 PM on March 09, 2006
Claude Lemieux: 95 w/ Devils, 96 w/ Colorado, 2000 w/ Devils
posted by njsk8r20 at 01:11 PM on March 09, 2006
Oh yeah, Turtle. Good one, sk8r.
posted by NoMich at 01:15 PM on March 09, 2006
posted by wingnut4life at 01:17 PM on March 09, 2006
Well, looks like Jamie Rivers has a shot at cracking the Coyotes lineup. Detroit just traded him away for a 2006 7th round pick.
posted by wingnut4life at 01:23 PM on March 09, 2006
Didn't he win a Cup with Montreal as well? Turtle, not Jamie Rivers.
posted by NoMich at 01:23 PM on March 09, 2006
1986 Canadiens-Claude and Chelios first Stanely Cup.
posted by HATER 187 at 01:26 PM on March 09, 2006
Wow, the '86 team? Thanks HATER.
posted by NoMich at 01:39 PM on March 09, 2006
Yeah, Turtle and the Habs go back a long way. Lemieux scored the winning goal against the Whalers, coming back from behind the net, backhand shot, a thing of beauty. Hate the guy all you want, he was clutch.
posted by qbert72 at 01:46 PM on March 09, 2006
Lemieux is most definately a clutch player, and that's why he's always ended up on Cup-winning teams. That said, I'll never forgive him for what he did to Drapes.
posted by wingnut4life at 01:52 PM on March 09, 2006
All the leaves are brown (the leaves are brown) And the sky is grey (and the sky is grey) I went for a walk (I went for a walk) On a winter’s day (on a winter’s day) If I didn’t tell her (if I didn’t tell her) I could leave today (I could leave today) Oh, California dreamin’ (California dreamin’) On such a winter’s day (California dreamin’) On such a winter’s day (California dreamin’) On such a winter’s day (California dreamin’) On such a winter’s day
posted by Jeff Friesen at 01:59 PM on March 09, 2006
There's no denying that the guy knew how to win, qbert. I wasn't really too much into hockey when the Habs won it in '86, and I certainly had no idea that Lemieux went back that far. I always wondered why the Whaler fans on my Hurricanes forum hated Lemieux. Now I know why.
posted by NoMich at 02:18 PM on March 09, 2006
One of my earliest hockey memories is when Lemieux bashed Draper's head into the boards. Of course, all was made good the next year en route to a Wings championship.
posted by Ying Yang Mafia at 02:31 PM on March 09, 2006
Thanks for the pix, Ying Yang. Sweeeeeeet!
posted by wingnut4life at 02:40 PM on March 09, 2006
Oh man, I'm not starting a Lemieux argument with Wings fans. I don't even like the guy. Any other deadline deals?
posted by qbert72 at 02:41 PM on March 09, 2006
On my Devil's 1995 championship video they do an interview with the bus driver for NJ. "These are a good group of guys. They don't complain too much. The usual complaint is from Claude Lemieux saying it is either too hot or its too cold." And yes qbert, he is clutch. That's why he won the Conn Smythe in 1995.
posted by njsk8r20 at 02:44 PM on March 09, 2006
Answering my own question: complete trades list Vancouver very active. They get the Sabres goalie, and it's only Noronen. I'd like more info on the guys Carolina sent Pittsburgh's way. The weirdest deal to me is Arnason for Bochenski.
posted by qbert72 at 02:47 PM on March 09, 2006
Here's another trade for the Ranger fans to chew on: Shaking up the Anaheim Ducks defence corps, general manager Brian Burke has traded veteran defenceman Sandis Ozolinsh to the New York Rangers in exchange for a third-round pick.
posted by njsk8r20 at 02:48 PM on March 09, 2006
This just in: Oilers get Samsonov
posted by qbert72 at 02:53 PM on March 09, 2006
Qbert, keep hitting refresh on that link. There's still deals going on! Gee, do ya think Vancouver has a complex about their defensive core? Oilers get Samsonov Bastards! I wanted him to go to the Wings! Damn you, Edmonton, DAMN YOU!!!
posted by wingnut4life at 02:55 PM on March 09, 2006
I'm glad to see Sandy still playing hockey. When he's on watch out.
posted by HATER 187 at 03:04 PM on March 09, 2006
Niklas Nordgren Another 'Canes fan put it best: Well, now Nordgren can sit in the Penguins penalty box instead of ours all the time! This person is only half joking, of course, but his penalties always seemed to have come at the worst of all times. I guess he took over that job with Sean Hill's departure. Nordgren's biggest upside is his speed, but he didn't get a lot of ice time. Only about 5 or 6 minutes a game, IIRC. Krys Kolanos I really have no idea who tihs guy is, or if he's even good enough to ever make it to the NHL for more than a few games each season. Jim Rutherford was just on the local sports radio station and he said that he was looking at Recchi for a few weeks now. That makes sense, really, since that is Rutherford's way. He is not a GM to pull the trigger on a trade just for any random dude that might look good in a red jersey. He's always scouted players of interest to him for weeks at a time, then he makes a move. Do I have a point with this crap? Yes. This wasn't a trade just to replace Erik Cole. This just in: Oilers get Samsonov Someone buy sammy a beer now! I mean, stat!
posted by NoMich at 03:11 PM on March 09, 2006
Edmonton just gave a big fuck you to the rest of thenorthwes divison today. They are clearly the most improved team at the trade deadline.
posted by HATER 187 at 03:14 PM on March 09, 2006
News: Cory Cross traded to Detroit. In other news: Cory Cross is still playing.
posted by NoMich at 03:24 PM on March 09, 2006
News: Cory Cross traded to Detroit. What about his brother, Kriss?
posted by wingnut4life at 04:47 PM on March 09, 2006
Why does this have to be all about the East? Can't we talk about the West, too? This link combines both East and West. I think the two teams in the East that interest me are the Senators and the Hurricanes. You know Carolina's going to be looking for a decent forward to replace Cole, and Ottawa needs a goalie just in case Hasek isn't ready for the playoffs. As far as the West, they say that the Red Wings (yeah baby yeah!) need defensive depth, but I think not. I feel they can go the distance with what they have. Another team from the West who'll be shopping is Edmonton. Boy do they need a goalie! I wonder if they picked up Patrick Lalime, maybe that would resurrect his career. They'll need something that will get them off of the playoff bubble.