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November 21, 2012
College Player Scores 138 Points In A Game: Jack Taylor of Grinnell College (D-III) scored 138 points in a 179-104 win over Faith Baptist. He was 27-of-71 in three-pointers and 52-of-108 from the field overall, plus 7-for-10 on free throws.
posted by TheQatarian to basketball at 12:13 AM - 33 comments
That's just the way Grinnell plays. Seems to work for them, though.
posted by TheQatarian at 01:40 AM on November 21, 2012
"Yo Jack! I'm open! damn."
posted by NoMich at 06:12 AM on November 21, 2012
When a "team" game gets to that point, especially at that college level, it's pretty ridiculous. 108 shots? I have to believe a lot of opposing coaches would have found a way to start making him pay for some of those shots after 70 or so.
posted by dyams at 06:41 AM on November 21, 2012
That being said, I seriously doubt Faith Baptist Bible would ever do anything of questionable sportsmanship on the court.
posted by dyams at 08:33 AM on November 21, 2012
Did not like seeing his number of attempts and shooting averages. That's ridiculous.
I was hoping it was the story of a player having one of those unconscious nights when the hoop looks like Lake Tahoe and everything goes in, so he maybe jacks up 50 or 60 instead of 108.
Well, if you're gonna be Boss Hog, this is a good week to do it. Easy on the spuds and gravy tomorrow, Jacko.
posted by beaverboard at 09:13 AM on November 21, 2012
I wonder if he has to ice his shooting arm after the game?
posted by BikeNut at 09:19 AM on November 21, 2012
His teammates did combine for an otherwise respectable 41 points. I wonder how many shots they took.
posted by bender at 11:08 AM on November 21, 2012
The rest of the team was 16 of 28 from the field and 6 of 6 from the free throw line.
A player for Faith Baptist scored 70 points. They're 0-5 for the season and have been blown out every game.
Overall a sham of a game.
posted by dyams at 11:21 AM on November 21, 2012
He missed 56 shots!
posted by rcade at 11:23 AM on November 21, 2012
I don't think a kid shoots that many balls without the coach, and the rest of the team giving it their blessing. I'd ease up on calling the kid selfish until his coach and teammates do the same.
posted by tahoemoj at 11:46 AM on November 21, 2012
When you miss twice as many shots as the rest of the team takes, it's time for someone to take the ball out of your hands.
posted by bender at 11:46 AM on November 21, 2012
He missed 56 shots!
Yeah, but 44 of those misses were 3-pointers. So, he was 38% for 3s (27/71) and 25 of 37 from the field (67.5%) otherwise. I don't think that's too shabby.
posted by LionIndex at 11:47 AM on November 21, 2012
When you miss twice as many shots as the rest of the team takes, it's time for someone to take the ball out of your hands.
But it made Iverson a perennial all star.
posted by tahoemoj at 12:08 PM on November 21, 2012
Here's a link to the boxscore and some video.
Interesting thing from the boxscore: Grinnell's style is unique in that they do wholesale "line changes" much like a hockey team, so the minutes for each player are usually fairly balanced. However, Taylor played almost the entire game (36 minutes out of 40), so that points to the idea that the coach had this sort of thing in mind.
Another note on the Faith Baptist player (David Larson) who had 70 points: He did it on 34-of-44 from the floor, which is also impressive. The caveat (although I have no proof of this) is that given Grinnell's style, a lot of those were probably uncontested layups.
If people want to knock Grinnell's system, so be it. But it's a D-III school, none of the kids have any NBA aspirations (or scholarships), and it seems to be a fun system to play. At that level, that's the important thing.
posted by TheQatarian at 12:18 PM on November 21, 2012
Thanks for the input TQ.
posted by Folkways at 01:39 PM on November 21, 2012
Yeah, it's fun watching a kid embarrass a over-matched bible school. He really proved a great deal.
The school I work for has had some great players over the years, and there have been many times when they, individually, could have taken shots every time up the court and scored at will. Luckily the coaches we employ don't get their kicks out of ripping the living shit out of hapless opponents, and after they've ripped the shit out of them, ripping them up some more.
Anyone impressed by this needs to re-evaluate their beliefs regarding competition.
posted by dyams at 01:42 PM on November 21, 2012
Yeah, it's fun watching a kid embarrass a over-matched bible school.
I wouldn't say they were "over-matched" if they managed to score 104 points in the game.
"Over-matched" is 85-10, or 103-9, or something where every player on one team has more points than the entire opposing team.
posted by grum@work at 02:29 PM on November 21, 2012
Yeah, it's fun watching a kid embarrass a over-matched bible school.
Is the fact that it's a bible school relevant? Does it make the beating more pathetic or someting? I ask this having played sports for a DIII bible college.
One hundred shots and zero assists. Hey coach, he's put up about 50 shots at halftime, maybe we should run a double team at him. Double team, box and one, something. Seriously, why would you just let the guy keep shooting?
posted by tron7 at 02:34 PM on November 21, 2012
A team that puts 104 points on the board is hardly being humiliated. These stats are a product of a weird style of play we've discussed before. They press all the time, to the point of not running back on defense, and were averaging 128.9 points per game back then. They recruit run-and-gun players.
posted by rcade at 02:39 PM on November 21, 2012
I have to believe a lot of opposing coaches would have found a way to start making him pay for some of those shots after 70 or so.
Dyams, you're not thinking "Hack-a-Jack?"
That being said, I seriously doubt Faith Baptist Bible would ever do anything of questionable sportsmanship on the court.
They would leave it to The Big Guy Upstairs to exact revenge.
posted by jjzucal at 02:44 PM on November 21, 2012
No, tron, it's the fact they are a bible college that gets throcked every time they step on the court, apparently.
If letting two guys trot up and down a court pumping up uncontested shots while the others watch is the "style" of basketball you like, then by all means, enjoy and be impressed.
71 three-pointers. Wonderful.
posted by dyams at 03:12 PM on November 21, 2012
This article makes it seem like there was an intentional effort made to get the kid the record. Teammates wide open under the hoop but passing out for a three? Cherry-picking? Allowing the other team to score to get the ball back faster? This clearly isn't basketball.
posted by Goyoucolts at 03:57 PM on November 21, 2012
I think you missed my point, dyams, but I was mostly joking anyway.
posted by tron7 at 05:29 PM on November 21, 2012
No not really basketball as most of us know it.
Will the record stand, sure it will...
posted by Folkways at 06:38 PM on November 21, 2012
I believe it's safe to state the coach and players sanctioned this ... most coaches would have yanked the kid for taking so many shots unless he was shooting 60-65 percent from the floor. Seventy-one 3's? Seriously? Most players don't take that many in a season.
posted by jjzucal at 07:50 PM on November 21, 2012
I hear the Bobcats have already offered him a max-deal.
posted by Ufez Jones at 07:54 PM on November 21, 2012
Seventy-one 3's? Seriously? Most players don't take that many in a season.
Stat check!
182 NBA players took more than 71 3-point shots last year.
There were 478 different players in the NBA last year.
That's about 38.1% that had more than 71 3-point attempts the previous season.
This is less than 50%, so your statement is correct.
posted by grum@work at 12:00 AM on November 22, 2012
My question is, did anyone during the blowout say, "Oh ye of little faith?"
posted by Howard_T at 08:09 AM on November 22, 2012
No not really basketball as most of us know it.
How many times has that been said when the style of basketball changes? Real basketball once had no three-point line, no 24-second clock, no jump shot and fouls only when you practically murdered your opponent. Grinnell has been playing this way for a decade.
posted by rcade at 10:12 AM on November 22, 2012
Real basketball once had no 24-second clock
The college game had to put in a shot clock because Dean Smith's team was not playing real basketball.
Whatever Grinnell is doing on the court these days, I'd rather watch that than the goddamn 4 Corners.
posted by beaverboard at 11:13 AM on November 22, 2012
Deadspin describes the extreme lengths Grinnell took to achieve this record, which included teammates rebounding his missed three-pointers, turning down an open layup and dishing back out to him. The opponent who got 70 points scored many uncontested layups while Taylor didn't run back for defense.
posted by rcade at 10:53 AM on November 23, 2012
I also like how Faith Baptist had this game on their schedule as an exhibition, while Grinnell counted it as a win on their schedule. I guess they really needed this impressive win on their resume. They always schedule horrible teams in order to put on stupid performances like this.
Their coach sounds like a self-promoter looking to get into record books any way they can. Oh well, if Division 3 basketball is that type of platform for him, that's his problem.
posted by dyams at 12:40 PM on November 23, 2012
That was my first thought - how did he shoot 108 times? And while the opposition was scoring a not unreasonable 104 points themselves.
Working on defence, playing the clock? Nah.