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February 13, 2008
Scandal Hits Indiana Hoops: Sampson may finally get his haircut permanently by the Delilah from NCAA.
posted by irunfromclones to basketball at 12:34 PM - 19 comments
But he has such a good cell 'phone plan... I was thinking of inserting a snarky Bob Knight reference here, but it's not necessary. Somehow recruiting problems seem to follow some people wherever they go. There are numerous examples of coaches with multiple violations, yet they get hired over and over. I know that people deserve second chances, but if I'm hiring someone to do a job, and his record of ethical performance in previous positions is spotty, I would think twice about taking him on board. If I did hire him, I'd have someone looking over his shoulder all the time.
posted by Howard_T at 03:05 PM on February 13, 2008
I am a big OU fan and he embarrased the school by doing the same thing to OU. The problem is that he got us in trouble with the NCAA, left town and the program was punished because of him. Prior to leaving, he had apparently signed what was supposed to be the top class in the land, only to see the recruits pull their committments to OU. One (I believe) even changed his to IU. So, when he goes to Indiana he does the same thing. AMAZING... You would have thought he would have learned by this as he was put on supervision of some sort and restricted by IU from contacting recruits the first year. I was really shocked to see this again - especially as quickly as it happened. I was sad and angry both at him in the beginning when he bolted. But, we now have Jeff Capel that has us playing good ball (15-8), and with a MacDonald's All-American this year and another one (recruit) coming next year. I am proud that Capel got the job done. Now, we have lost a few lately and we might be a year or two away, but I believe that we got the better coach now and I feel sorry for Indiana. But, they should have seen the writing on the wall.
posted by Mickster at 04:36 PM on February 13, 2008
Well i will not refrain from a bob knight refference. Without regard for his attitude, his ethics are beyond reproach. Not a single NCAA violation. Not one. Mike davis (BK's successor) was a less than impressive coach, but also had a flawless record of 0 violations. But davis didnt win enough so the school sold thier soul's for wins. I believe there are two times when it is ok for a fan of any team to quit on his team. One is if the team leaves town (I.E. the colts from baltimore, or the browns to baltimore) the other is if the team dishonors the game or themselves. thousands of former IU fans have surrendered their emotional investment in Indiana basketball when sampson came to town.
posted by elijahin24 at 05:04 PM on February 13, 2008
I believe there are two times when it is ok for a fan of any team to quit on his team. One is if the team leaves town (I.E. the colts from baltimore, or the browns to baltimore) the other is if the team dishonors the game or themselves. Damn, I wish the Clippers would just...
posted by docshredder at 06:27 PM on February 13, 2008
I find it ironic that Myles Brand may indirectly have an influence on both Bob Knight and coach Sampson exiting the I.U. basketball program. I don't think many of the fans bought into coach Sampson from the begining. However I do think he is an excellent coach, he just doesn't have a good understanding of the rules. LOL! You reap what you sow. I also think the Indiana fans will come back.
posted by sportnut at 06:43 PM on February 13, 2008
I also think the Indiana fans will come back Yeah as soon as they get a coach who can win without cheating.
posted by elijahin24 at 06:47 PM on February 13, 2008
I think the next coach will be under a spot light and will think twice. Being a die-hard Indiana fan I will always root for the Cream and Crimson. I just hope they don't act in desperation when choosing the next coach. I think there are many,many quality D-1 coaches that would kill to coach I.U. And Indiana should be very selective. I like Dan D. but he had a hard time at Bowling Green.
posted by sportnut at 07:07 PM on February 13, 2008
Sampson and Greenspan should both be fired by now. The sanctions will be brutal if they let Sampson hang around.
posted by curlyelk at 05:52 AM on February 14, 2008
I'm glad this happened. Indiana knew about the NCAA violations before they even hired him. Maybe schools will give a little bit more thought to hiring a coach with a history of violations to lead their team.
posted by bperk at 08:33 AM on February 14, 2008
bperk, AMEN
posted by sportnut at 08:55 AM on February 14, 2008
bperk, AMEN
posted by sportnut at 09:02 AM on February 14, 2008
Sampson is caught in this stupid attempt to define what a "phone call is" now that there is text messaging and email and cell phones. He is a great person, and very ethical. These "infractions" have already been in the news for months, and IU has already imposed sanctions as a result of these. This is simply the NCAA follow-up to something that has been in the news a long time. BORING!!! Let him be - GO HOOSIERS!
posted by twoman at 09:28 AM on February 14, 2008
Isaiah could be available any minute. Anyone who could hire Sampson probably has the stomach to hire Isaiah. Why not take it all the way to the penthouse? Sampson is just a program wrecker. Isaiah did in a whole league. With Isaiah, you get both the Indiana legacy of Knight and the slime of Sampson in one package. Just when you thought that the top regional talent would want to stay at home and play for IU rather than look to Gillispie's current UK program, now this comes along. If all this had happened while Scott Drew was still at Valpo, he probably wouldn't have jumped ship to go to IU if they had sought him (which they probably wouldn't have). But you look at what he's doing for Baylor, and you wonder what might have been. IU fans, to their credit, they have been flooding the local area response boards with basically: "we'd rather lose the right way than win the wrong way." They want a true program builder. Wish the IU admin. felt the same way.
posted by beaverboard at 10:11 AM on February 14, 2008
Maybe schools will give a little bit more thought to hiring a coach with a history of violations to lead their team. Well, we can dream, anyway. And Mickster, you should be happy with Capel; I had a chance to work with him and his father when they were at Old Dominion University in Norfolk, and they were both classy guys who seemed to have an integrity surplus.
posted by The_Black_Hand at 11:55 AM on February 14, 2008
"Anyone who could hire Sampson probably has the stomach to hire Isaiah." I may sound crazy, but I think that maybe Isaiah could coach players that would listen, and play as a team.
posted by bo_fan at 01:56 PM on February 14, 2008
the Cream and Crimson Just to derail, did this make anyone else think of steroids and blood?
posted by billsaysthis at 02:56 PM on February 14, 2008
When I lived in Norman, Capel use to come in to my former place of employment with his wife. They were just normal folks, coming in wearing their work out clothes and stuff.
posted by igottheblues at 04:25 PM on February 14, 2008
I may sound crazy Indeed you sound crazy. Isiah belongs with the band of misfits he assembled in New York. Twoman - the violations may be old news but the NCAA obviously took offense to Sampson fibbing to them and to the university using Senderoff as a scapegoat. Also, its not about what is defined as a phone call, it has to do with three way calls that Sampson is prohibited from taking part in because of his OU violations.
posted by curlyelk at 05:42 PM on February 14, 2008
Now you know why IU brought in Dan Dakich (spelling!) as an assistant...Dan will be the next head coach at IU..