What happens when players act as their own agents: Daunte Culpepper asks for trade or release...
Sounds like a big baby who is bringing all the attention to himself for the wrong reasons. He claims the "boat party" crap was no big thing, yet he continues to see himself as the martyr in the whole episode. As far as I hear, HE'S the only one who continues to bring it up. As for on the field, he seems to want to have his huge ego stroked because the team ended up doing well (better) without him and with Brad Johnson at the helm. Daunte wants someone from the Vikings to kiss his butt endlessly through the media and proclaim how they can't go on without him. My opinion has always been that Culpepper is an athlete with a lot of talent but may never see his potential reached. His health concerns don't help matters, either.
posted by dyams at 05:51 PM on March 08, 2006
He who represents himself has a fool for a client.
posted by dbt302 at 06:21 PM on March 08, 2006
Bad Form Daunte...Bad Form...
posted by chemwizBsquared at 08:32 PM on March 08, 2006
Hey dbt302, don't say that to Lou Whitaker and Alan Trammell. They both did their own agent thing and did alright for themselves.
posted by coach at 08:39 PM on March 08, 2006
Check the want ads, baby, under "Quarterback". Oops, there AREN'T any!While I'M drawing my meager paycheck, I looked, and my PERSONAL agenda doesn't include pissing and moaning about the guy offering SIX MILLION DOLLARS...YOU PUTZ!!!
posted by wolfdad at 09:08 PM on March 08, 2006
Hey coach, there are always exceptions to the rule.
posted by dbt302 at 09:42 PM on March 08, 2006
Many players are capable of representing themselves. Roger Staubach, for example, represented himself throughout a very successful career and is still doing quite well for himself after football. It is neither the player nor the agent who is responsible for most of the contract negotiation conflicts but the use of the media for aid in negotiations. A player who feels he can represent himself should meet with owner/management PRIOR to hiring an agent. Most teams don't want conflicts, especially those promising bad press, and will offer a fair and reasonable rate regardless of who represents the player, and especially if the player is his own agent. If you don't believe me, ask the Texas Rangers baseball club.
posted by Bud Lang at 10:32 PM on March 08, 2006
Roger Staubach, for example, represented himself throughout a very successful career and is still doing quite well for himself after football. ...makes you proud of the Navy... It's too bad...I always rooted for Daunte. His biggest problem was losing Randy, just like McNabb with Owens. It takes two to tango for the tandem of QB and WR and his fate with the Vikings was sealed when Moss left.
posted by vito90 at 02:17 AM on March 09, 2006
It's really a damn shame when someone of Daunte's calibre lashes out like this. You want to believe that he had maturity along with his ability, but I guess that it wasn't the case.
posted by wingnut4life at 06:59 AM on March 09, 2006
I know Shane Battier negotiated his first contract on his own - I think he did have a lawyer read the fine print - but that was a case where the NBA had defined salary corridors for the first round draft picks. He probably didn't do that with his FA contract last year, though.
posted by mbd1 at 08:19 AM on March 09, 2006
Put it this way. his agent could be Drew Rosenhaus.
posted by Ying Yang Mafia at 08:57 AM on March 09, 2006
I really don't see how Daunte is hurting himself. Obviously, he is mad at Minnesota. So, they are either going to have to find a way to make him happy to stay or let him go. While it is certainly within their right to keep him whether he likes it or not, that is no way to have a successful football team. Either way, Daunte wins. He will have no trouble finding a spot if Minnesota doesn't want him. There seems to be a great shortage of player qualified to start at QB in the NFL.
posted by bperk at 09:14 AM on March 09, 2006
How the mighty have fallen. Daunte was a golden god in Minny two years ago. Now he couldn't get arrested in that town.
posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 10:25 AM on March 09, 2006
His biggest problem was losing Randy, just like McNabb with Owens. It takes two to tango for the tandem of QB and WR and his fate with the Vikings was sealed when Moss left. How come everyone seems to forget that McNabb went to 4 straight NFCC games without owens. And the year they finally made it to the Superbowl he won the NFCC game WITHOUT Owens (along with some 6 or 8 other games). Owens didn't get them over that hurdle (though he did play well in the Superbowl once they jumped that hurdle)
posted by bdaddy at 11:24 AM on March 09, 2006
Now he couldn't get arrested in that town. Or on a boat outside of town. Not for lack of trying.
posted by yerfatma at 11:30 AM on March 09, 2006
Personally, I'm going to reserve judgement on the whole thing until someone comes forward with some insight on the contents of this mysterious email that the Vikings allegedly sent... The real issue isn't Daunte choosing to represent himself, rather it is his choice of trying his case in the press- and that just might be self-promotion, because the email could have led him to believe his days in Mn were numbered anyway, so he figured he'd better do something to get his name out there on the minds of teams who are looking for a QB...
posted by don-peyote at 03:02 PM on March 09, 2006
Or on a boat outside of town. Not for lack of trying. Thank you. At least somebody's trying.
posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 03:13 PM on March 09, 2006
Latest is that Minnesota is going to try to trade him. What replacement QB can they get? Will they rest their hopes on the 37-year old Brad Johnson?
posted by bperk at 03:26 PM on March 09, 2006
How come everyone seems to forget that McNabb ... Apparently because we aren't told enough.
posted by lilnemo at 03:46 PM on March 09, 2006
How come everyone seems to forget that McNabb went to 4 straight NFCC games without owens. To pick a nit, the 2002 Eagles went 5-1 without McNabb to end the season and win the division. He came back for the playoffs, I believe, but he shouldn't get all the credit for getting them there.
posted by cl at 05:28 PM on March 09, 2006
bperk, what's going to happen is Minnesota will trade Culpepper to Oakland for........................Collins!!! Hah, hah! Gotcha on that one!!!
posted by wingnut4life at 09:24 PM on March 09, 2006
Will they rest their hopes on the 37-year old Brad Johnson? posted by bperk at 3:26 PM CST on March 9 My guess, if Culpepper actually leaves: they either draft or try to acquire a young project quarterback, and then try to squeeze a year out of Johnson while the new acquisition matures.
posted by cobra! at 09:13 AM on March 10, 2006
i think culpepper will help another team out
posted by defrag3x at 04:44 PM on March 10, 2006
"However, because of the fundamental differences I have with management regarding the approach to my personal and professional life, I think it is the best business decision for both parties to go our separate ways," Culpepper said. He softened his message slightly by saying that if the team didn't honor his request, "then I intend to fulfill my contractual obligations to the Minnesota Vikings." Given the fact that it is questionable whether or not he will play next season, I find his demands ludicrous at best. THe Vikings will be hard pressed to get his value in a trade right now. And how magnanimous for him to agree to "fulfill his contractual obligations".... the Vikes have him tied up until 2013.
posted by elovrich at 04:56 PM on March 08, 2006