November 14, 2005

Bears center breaks fellow offensive lineman's jaw.: How does this bode for team cohesiveness? And how friggin' hard did Olin pop him? I knew when they reported Sunday that Fred broke his jaw from a spill at home that something just didn't ring right.

posted by willthrill72 to football at 04:04 PM - 20 comments

What a weird article, like they got in a fight for kicks or something.

posted by fenriq at 05:23 PM on November 14, 2005

Were they arguing over the last drumstick at dinner and it got out of hand? Well, it just goes to show you why linemen aren't considered the smartest individuals on the field.

posted by bigwhisky26 at 05:56 PM on November 14, 2005

I don't think you'd say that to his face or you might not be talking right now. But in the comfort of your own home you feel pretty safe and secure saying anything you want about an offensive lineman. I mean who wouldn't.

posted by red_kal_el at 06:04 PM on November 14, 2005

Well at least he didn't bust out his eye socket like Romo in the middle of practice. I hope the stakeshake diet doesn't lean out Kreutz to much!!!!!

posted by Doc at 06:26 PM on November 14, 2005

Attaway, Husky. At least we won the fight.

posted by vito90 at 11:54 PM on November 14, 2005

Kreutz, who is 6-foot-2, 292 pounds, and the 6-7, 320-pound Miller, an offensive tackle, said they talked after the altercation. A.I guess its true....the bigger they are, the harder they land when they get dropped. We had a fight, or not even a fight, there was an altercation. It was no more than that," Smith said. B. translation:we had a fight or uhh, well actually it wasnt really a fight. Kreutz swung, Miller woke up later that day wondering why the magnets on his refrigerator were jumping onto his face.

posted by RZA at 03:24 AM on November 15, 2005

Incidentally, Kreutz, was reportedly involved in an incident with a teammate in the weeks leading up to the 1998 NFL draft and broke that teammate's jaw in two places. This guy is dialed in!!!

posted by timdawg at 08:39 AM on November 15, 2005

Kruetz should have been a boxer. He's 2-0-0. I agree with fenrig, why do they write a huge article getting everyone, including the towel boy's opinion on the fight, but they don't tell us what the fight was over. If we have to hear about everytime T.O. snivvles about something, we deserve to know why the Kruetz broke the jaw of his teammate. I just hope for Kruetz sake that Tom Zbikowski of Notre Dame doesn't go the Bears. Zibs is a gold glove boxer and Kruetz is liable to be the one drinking through the straw.

posted by mcstan13 at 08:54 AM on November 15, 2005

If there's any justice in the world, Zbikowski is going to the Patriots just so I can continue to watch him. And then Brady Quinn too. Which causes Charlie Weiss to divide his time between ND and NE.

posted by yerfatma at 09:42 AM on November 15, 2005

Olin Kruetz is a big dude! so is Fred Miller i wouldn't wanna get between a fight with those 2 there only human though things happen the Bears orginization and the NFL can but this behind them, not like we haven't seen this in the past.

posted by Lionsfan20 at 10:27 AM on November 15, 2005

Can anyone say STEROIDS?

posted by Tubby Fan at 11:06 AM on November 15, 2005

Here's a little second-hand background courtesy of ChicagoSports: "According to sources familiar with the incident, Miller and Kreutz spent the off day at an FBI shooting range in North Chicago. Tension percolated throughout the day and escalated, sources said, as more alcohol was consumed. Kreutz, a source said, repeatedly warned Miller to stop agitating him. They eventually went to a drinking establishment with other linemen. According to two people with knowledge of the incident, the fracas began when one player threw a drink at the other. It's unclear if Miller, who is 6 feet 7 inches and 320 pounds, first swung at Kreutz. But Kreutz landed the only punch, making Miller's mouth fill with blood when his braces cut his gums. Miller also lost a tooth. Miller, according to one source, then "lost it," rushing Kreutz and either throwing an unknown object or striking him in the head with it. One source said it was a 5-pound weight. Another said it was a board. Kreutz, who is 6-2 and 292 pounds, suffered a cut that, according to one source, required double-digit stitches." Not exactly the kind of thing a team struggling to find cohesvieness needs -- especially going into a tough second half of the season. - Snare

posted by redsnare at 11:19 AM on November 15, 2005

Can anyone say STEROIDS? Where did this come into play or are you just trying to get a rise out of us? I know plenty of guys who can break a jaw and don't use steriods. I don't want to see these two players sit out but would like to see some fines because Miller missed Sundays game and will probably miss this sundays too. Do what you want legally on your day off but make sure you can still do your job that you get paid for.

posted by skydivemom at 11:51 AM on November 15, 2005

spent the off day at an FBI shooting range in North Chicago. Tension percolated throughout the day and escalated, sources said, as more alcohol was consumed. Good Christ: you could fix our National Debt in a year by allowing bachelor parties at FBI shooting ranges. They have liquor? Add a topless barmaid and we're in the black by 2nd quarter next year.

posted by yerfatma at 11:55 AM on November 15, 2005

nothin' like drinkin' and shootin'

posted by bugsyduke at 12:03 PM on November 15, 2005

skydivemom - Everything I've read seems to indicate Coach Smith will, if he hasn't already, fine the two players. Figures will most likely not be disclosed. yerfatma - I was pretty shocked by that guns & booze comment also, however, I attribute it to shoddy reporting and/or writing more than alcohol being served at a shooting range. Government facility no less. I think that last sentence in the first paragraph should have been the last sentence of the second paragraph of my post. Lazy or non-existent editors at ChicagoSports? -Snare

posted by redsnare at 12:27 PM on November 15, 2005

For those who have not been to a regular shooting range, alcohol is not generally permitted. I cannot imagine that a the FBI range has more lax rules. I am going to assume that the reporter is an idiot and the drinking was after not during the shooting range.

posted by mcstan13 at 01:02 PM on November 15, 2005

For those who have not been to a regular shooting range, alcohol is not generally permitted. Pshaw, when I was in the military, we always got liquored up before we went to the range. Made it more challenging. /advocating responsible firearm safety

posted by The_Black_Hand at 03:33 PM on November 15, 2005

The reporter also quoted kreutz as saying to miller, "Dont make me angry. you wont like me when im angry". All miller remembers is a dream about a big green monster.

posted by RZA at 05:46 PM on November 15, 2005

Here come the G-men!

posted by The_Black_Hand at 02:55 PM on November 17, 2005

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