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October 13, 2009
Brady Quinn's House Up For Sale: Pro Football Talk is reporting that Brady Quinn's house in Cleveland is on the market. Newsworthy? Maybe, considering that a) he's lost the job to Derek Anderson despite D.A.'s 2 for 17, 15 yard performance against the Bills, and b) the NFL trade deadline is October 20th. Many experts don't think Quinn will be moved, but those same experts said the same thing when Jay Cutler's house in Denver went up for sale--just days before his trade to Chicago. So, is Quinn gone or what?
posted by cletus7777 to football at 10:18 PM - 23 comments
I'm going to say no. The only rider in his contract is an additional $11 million if he takes 70% of the snaps...which ain't gonna happen sitting on the bench. If he gets traded, his new team would have to pay him only $2.08 million (providing he doesn't reach the 70% of the snaps) with a $700,000 bonus. Fairly cheap really, but who would want a guy who's 1-5 and lost his starting job to Derek Anderson (2 of 17 for 23 yards, one INT, and a 15.1 passer rating)?
posted by cletus7777 at 12:12 AM on October 14, 2009
I'm not sure it can possibly get worse than Anderson going 2 of 17. Quinn may not be anything special but one would think the Browns would give him a look next week.
posted by Ying Yang Mafia at 01:23 AM on October 14, 2009
It sounds though like Mangini is going with Anderson next week for sure...and probably the rest of the year
posted by cletus7777 at 02:25 AM on October 14, 2009
Hard to see any QB being successful on a team with second rate wideouts, a poor line, a banged up #1 tailback, and a banged up kicker....I'll bet Quinn lands in Miami.
posted by FonGu at 05:37 AM on October 14, 2009
I'll bet Quinn lands in Miami.
I'll bet he doesn't. I know Bill likes groceries, but we already traded for a QB this year.
posted by Mr Bismarck at 07:04 AM on October 14, 2009
I'll bet Quinn lands in Miami.
I'd be very surprised if that happens, given the fact that the Phins already traded for Tyler Thigpen. Coupled with Chad Henne's performance so far, I don't think the team's going to be looking for a quarterback anytime soon.
posted by The_Black_Hand at 07:32 AM on October 14, 2009
The only rider in his contract is an additional $11 million if he takes 70% of the snaps
He probably realized that without the bonus, he needed to downsize. And really, with the two lackluster choices, could this be a reason Mangini is going with Anderson? Since neither QB was really lighting up the scoreboard, might as well go with the cheaper one.
posted by opel70 at 08:32 AM on October 14, 2009
Anderson is just a better QB than Quinn. They are both young, so there is no point in holding on to Quinn. It's a bummer for him that it didn't work out since he is probably the only QB in the league that actually wanted to play in Cleveland.
posted by bperk at 08:41 AM on October 14, 2009
To be fair, neither of these guys has very long to find a receiver getting chased around the backfield. I dont think Tom Brady could be successful as a QB behind that Godaweful line. I think Brady Quinn and decent team with a decent front line will be a damn good QB. He has a great work ethic and a big heart and I think when the game starts to slow down for him he will be successful. Just not in Cleveland. Cleveland goes through QB's like their coming out of a PEZ dispenser these days. Newsflash guys, until you guys can pass protect and establish a consistant running game you might as well sub the QB for another running back and make another version of the Wildcat. I've always hated the QB controversy shit as I think it hurts the entire team. Pick your F-ing guy and let him play, let him get better, let him learn and help him.
posted by firecop at 09:27 AM on October 14, 2009
Tim Couch, Charlie Frye, now Brady Quinn. Cleveland is a career ender for QB's, just like Detroit in recent years. Making fun of Cleveland has just become too easy.
posted by Debo270 at 10:08 AM on October 14, 2009
What firecop says! No truer words were ever written, oh, except for maybe the Bible.
posted by kerrycindy at 10:21 AM on October 14, 2009
You've gotta feel for Quinn, at least a little bit. They bring him along slowly and then, suddenly, throw a bunch of money at another quarterback who had 2/3 of a good season and leave him on the bench. He's been broiled in controversy since then and, like all young quarterbacks do, when he struggles, he gets pulled and Derek Anderson is suddenly the go-to guy, regardless of whether or not he throws 15 yards in a game.
They surround him with receivers who are tumultuous and who drop perfectly thrown balls. His offensive line is atrocious. He's been plagued with so-so running backs who can't be counted week in, week out. Somehow, though, he seems to want to play in Cleveland. I don't understand it.
I think a change of scenery might be the best thing for him. He needs a place where he can not look over his shoulder (either at the quarterback looking to replace him or a defensive lineman about to bury him) the entire time.
posted by dfleming at 10:44 AM on October 14, 2009
I'll bet Quinn lands in Miami.
Not after Henne's performance on Monday night.
posted by Ying Yang Mafia at 11:26 AM on October 14, 2009
I can smell BLOCKBUSTER DEAL in which Brady Quinn goes to the Titans, Vince Young goes to the Raiders Tom Cable goes to jail, JaMarcus Russell goes to the UFL and JP Losman goes to the Browns.
posted by Mr Bismarck at 01:32 PM on October 14, 2009
MrB that is prophetic. Do fans of all the teams get Blockbuster coupons too?
posted by billsaysthis at 02:09 PM on October 14, 2009
I can see the Browns getting absolutely jack-shit for Quinn, should they deal him. The guy fell low in the draft (from where he was expected to go), and has proven nothing to this point (even though he's trying to "prove" something on a terrible team that has been saddled with poor, overrated head coaches). If they get a third-round pick, they'd probably be doing well.
posted by dyams at 04:27 PM on October 14, 2009
Earlier this year Quinn (against the Vikings) took a sack over 8 seconds after the snap. Yeah, you have crap receivers but that is ridiculous - it isn't possible to cover pro WRs for that long, you just aren't seeing the open man. His throws look nice in practice but he has average accuracy on the deep ball and poor field vision, I just don't see a great starting QB in Brady Quinn - Trent Dilfer as a ceiling. The trade market won't be great.
posted by deflated at 05:06 PM on October 14, 2009
Wow - $750,000 gets you quite a bit in Cleveland. A house like that would be at least twice that here (Toronto).
I agree that you ain't getting much for Brady Quinn. Another reason why these rookie contracts are just stupifying.
posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 09:07 PM on October 14, 2009
I just don't see a great starting QB in Brady Quinn - Trent Dilfer as a ceiling.
Trent Dilfer did win a Super Bowl ring with the Ravens.
posted by BornIcon at 07:47 AM on October 15, 2009
Does a Super Bowl ring make Dilfer a good QB? How about Brad Johnson? I'd say they were both serviceable QBs who didn't make a ton of mistakes, and were lucky enough to be on teams with fantastic defenses.
Dilfer was one of the worst QBs I have ever had the misfortune of watching when he was in Tampa - just erratic with terrible decisionmaking skills.
posted by bperk at 10:17 AM on October 15, 2009
Brady Quinn = Rick Mirer 2.0
posted by jc at 02:29 PM on October 16, 2009
Earlier this year Quinn (against the Vikings) took a sack over 8 seconds after the snap. Yeah, you have crap receivers but that is ridiculous - it isn't possible to cover pro WRs for that long, you just aren't seeing the open man.
One play at 8 seconds still doesnt make it Quinns fault. Is there a video clip of this play? The few CB games I have seen Ive watched Quinn take some viscious sacks and hit's just after throwing. The kid could be shell shocked from all that. The difference between Quinn and Dilfer is that Quinn actually has talent and Quinn works hard to get better after each game.
I think youre right that the Browns wont get much for Quinn but fuck em! They are the ones setting him up to fail. They are the ones who arent protecting him. They are the ones using Anderson to threaten him with (and vice versa) so good, I hope the browns dont get squat. Spagnuolo is rebuilding the Rams and could do alot worse than Brady Quinn to build around. The Raiders are now certain that ANYONE is a better alternative to Jamarcus Russell. The Vikings know that after this year farve is gone and Tavaris Jackson isnt the answer. Tampa Bay is playing the QB shuffle.
There is no limit to the Options for Quinn and if he lands somewhere they can give him some time and help the game slow down for him methinks he will be a damn good QB.
By the way, how's Matt Cassell working out in KC? New England is living proof that if you can protect the QB long enough, a highschool kid with a big arm can get above average stats.
posted by firecop at 11:44 AM on October 18, 2009
Where would he go? St. Louis, Tennessee, Tampa?
Does Quinn have a no-cut or no-trade contract?
If so, he could say no to Oakland. I don't even think Dolemite would agree to go to Oakland at this point (if he were alive).