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December 13, 2006
Jason Kidd’s 80 Triple-Doubles- Will he make it to 100 triple doubles?:
posted by msusportsguy to basketball at 11:34 PM - 26 comments
Cool link. I've seen a lot more of him since he moved to NJ and the one amazing number in the grid is that he has 0 triple doubles against Boston; they must be so far ahead by the 4th quarter that he sits, because he's killed us since coming East. One caveat: cutting and pasting the text of the article might seem like a copyright violation to some publications. Like teenage suicide, don't do it.
posted by yerfatma at 06:13 AM on December 14, 2006
With his 79th triple-double, Kidd passed the great Wilt Chamberlain on the all time list. What a list that top 5 is, too. I had no idea the Big "O" led the list all-time, and I wonder how many of Wilt's triple doubles included double figures for blocked shots? Pretty select company Kidd is in...
posted by mjkredliner at 08:19 AM on December 14, 2006
yeah, cutting and pasting the entirety of the only original text in the linked article goes a bit far, and is lazy.... The only thing I don't like about triple doubles is that it is seen as an achievement, but it is just a number and Jason Kidd is a career 0.402 shooter. So I am sure in lots of those triple doubles his shooting has been cold and would have been seen as a bad performance. Still, a pretty good achievement, he's in good company.
posted by gspm at 09:13 AM on December 14, 2006
I would have guessed Oscar Robertson would have led this list, just from knowing that he averaged a triple-double for the entire 1962 season. Talk about a stat that's just absurd. There have always been holes in Kidd's game, but he is one of the greats, and milestones like this just serve to reinforce that. Will he get to 100? Lord willing, Vince Carter don't move & the Nets don't start sucking, I wouldn't bet against it.
posted by chicobangs at 09:40 AM on December 14, 2006
The only thing I don't like about triple doubles is that it is seen as an achievement, but it is just a number and Jason Kidd is a career 0.402 shooter. So I am sure in lots of those triple doubles his shooting has been cold and would have been seen as a bad performance. Except for, as evident by the triple double, he does other things quite well on the court besides shooting perfectly thus negating the "bad performance" aspect of a triple double.
posted by jmd82 at 10:38 AM on December 14, 2006
Except for, as evident by the triple double, he does other things quite well on the court besides shooting perfectly thus negating the "bad performance" aspect of a triple double. I couldn't have said it better. When you're doing all those things well, it doesn't quite matter that you're not the greatest shooter. I am most impressed by his rebounding ability. How often do you see a guard pull down 10 boards in a game? Not to mention a point guard.
posted by yay-yo at 10:49 AM on December 14, 2006
MJK, Chamberlain did lead the league in assists once in the early '70s, and I'd bet that most of his triple-doubles came later in his career, when he put more of a focus on the all-around aspects of his game, beyond his scoring capabilities. I wonder if anyone's had a 20-20-20 game...
posted by ajaffe at 11:20 AM on December 14, 2006
There have been quadruple doubles. Most memorably, Elden Campbell on the Lakers against my college roommate in NBA Live 95.
posted by yerfatma at 11:56 AM on December 14, 2006
man, your roomate must have sucked.
posted by Bill Lumbergh at 12:08 PM on December 14, 2006
David Robinson had a quadrubple double (with swats being the fourth category). I believe I have read that someone else had one with steals. I think Kirilenko's come close as well. There are others, but that's the last one I can remember. That's quite a legacy for Kidd. He's an easy pick for the HoF.
posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 12:49 PM on December 14, 2006
man, your roomate must have sucked. He totally did. Nice kid, but it wasn't even worth the practice. Of course, circa 1995, those Celtics v. Lakers battles lacked a certain cachet.
posted by yerfatma at 01:35 PM on December 14, 2006
Will he get to 100? Lord willing, Vince Carter don't move & the Nets don't start sucking, I wouldn't bet against it. Aside from the last two games against even suckier opponents, the Nets pretty much have been sucking all year, and Kidd already has 5 triple doubles. His knees have been shot the last couple seasons, yet he's still averaging almost 9 boards a game - a career high. Even on a team that sucks, he should be able to reach 100, unless he retires because he can't stand playing on a team that sucks.
posted by chamo at 03:36 PM on December 14, 2006
David Robinson had a quadrubple double (with swats being the fourth category). I believe I have read that someone else had one with steals. I think Kirilenko's come close as well. There are others, but that's the last one I can remember. Here's a list of quadruple-doubles and near misses. Alvin Robertson had a quadruple-double that included 10 steals.
posted by holden at 04:21 PM on December 14, 2006
no player has even recorded double digits in each of the five major statistical categories in different games of their career Difficult to believe. Very difficult to believe.
posted by DudeDykstra at 04:37 PM on December 14, 2006
Difficult to believe. Very difficult to believe. Getting 10 steals or 10 blocks is extremely rare and very difficult. A player who is fast enough to get 10 steals is normally not tall enough to get 10 blocks and vice-versa. I am not suprised by this statistic.
posted by yay-yo at 04:47 PM on December 14, 2006
I've always thought the triple double one of those anomalies that really means something. I remember when Tim Duncan got his first his sophmore year at Wake Forest. It was an astounding performance, a real coming-out party, and I thought, "That won't be his last." Oddly, though, it was. He never got 10 blocks again for the Deacs. Let's you know how hard it is to get one that way.
posted by gradioc at 05:44 PM on December 14, 2006
Yeah, NJ Sucks now but it is only the first month of the season. Nets are still feared by many.
posted by msusportsguy at 10:38 PM on December 14, 2006
I've always thought the triple double one of those anomalies that really means something. Yeah, me too. The list of players that have attained quadruple doubles and near misses does not contain a fringe player at all, every one of the players listed is the kind of player you'd like on your team who generally play their heart out at both ends of the floor. It does appear that it is more likely for a person to get 10 bloked shots than 10 steal, so the list is a little heavy with centers. I always enjoyed watchin' Mr. Double-Double, Fat Lever, play as well.
posted by mjkredliner at 07:23 AM on December 15, 2006
Nets are still feared by many few. Fixed. Among the few? My favorite team. Yeah, letting go of Chauncey Billups was a great idea.
posted by The_Black_Hand at 07:46 AM on December 15, 2006
Dude, we would still suck even if we hung on to Billups. I hate the @#$@#*# NBA draft lottery.
posted by Venicemenace at 09:09 AM on December 15, 2006
Besides, if the rumor why Chauncey and Mercer were run out of town are even close to true, Good Riddance. It's Joe Johnson that hurts now.
posted by yerfatma at 11:01 AM on December 15, 2006
I don't get the Hub edition of Rumor Central, so I missed out on that one. Dish, dish!
posted by The_Black_Hand at 02:38 PM on December 15, 2006
Some sexual assault thing, but I can't find anything in Google, so I'm loathe to say much more lest some false rumor become accepted truth.
posted by yerfatma at 03:35 PM on December 15, 2006
Yeah, letting go of Chauncey Billups was a great idea. I don't have a problem with it.
posted by Ying Yang Mafia at 04:35 PM on December 15, 2006
it's the nets who cares
posted by livewire at 05:49 PM on December 15, 2006
Will Jason Kidd make it to 100 Triple-Doubles?