11/05/24
February 08, 2006
Lions ink Mike Martz as Offensive Coordinator : ALLEN PARK - The Detroit Lions today announced that they have reached agreement with former St. Louis Rams head coach Mike Martz as the team's offensive coordinator. Terms were undisclosed but is believed to be a three-year deal worth just over $4 million. SWEEEEEEEET...
posted by wingnut4life to football at 07:31 PM - 31 comments
SWEEEEEEEET... I 2nd that, but lets hope he avoids the Lions curse that has killed more then one career. As a long time fan of the team I'll keep my fingers crossed, but won't hold my breath.
posted by commander cody at 08:12 PM on February 08, 2006
Now all the Lions need is Marshall Faulk, Torry Holt, Isaac Bruce, Orlando Pace and Kurt Warner. Outside of Roy Williams, that whole offense is soft.
posted by dyams at 08:23 PM on February 08, 2006
This is a great stroke of luck for Kevin Jones. It guarantees his legs will be fresh until he can move to a real team, as Martz has no fucking idea how to effectively utilize running backs.
posted by wfrazerjr at 08:31 PM on February 08, 2006
This is a great stroke of luck for Kevin Jones. It guarantees his legs will be fresh until he can move to a real team, as Martz has no fucking idea how to effectively utilize running backs. It can't be any worse than when Mooch was the coach. I don't know how many fucking times they would take Jones out on a crucial second or third down!
posted by wingnut4life at 09:06 PM on February 08, 2006
Well, I think that Martz should learn from his St. Louis fiasco and see the three things that he has here: 1. A pretty good back capable of carrying the load 2. A QB who has TOO MANY questionable traits 3. Three underachieving WRs Good luck with airing it out guys...
posted by chemwizBsquared at 09:27 PM on February 08, 2006
I agree chemwiz...QB-OL has got to upgrade... K Jones is a good kid... I've known about him since he was in high school...there has to be some talent there at WR...
posted by phillyolhead at 09:45 PM on February 08, 2006
millen really seems to be thumbing his nose at the fates these days...
posted by ninjavshippo at 09:51 PM on February 08, 2006
As a St. Louis fan, we are more than happy to give him to you. We will miss his offensive prowess, but he was a cancer to our organization. I hope that he has better luck in Detroit.
posted by mcstan13 at 10:00 PM on February 08, 2006
The article says he's going to be QB coach too. Sure would be nice if he had a real QB to coach. I've said it before and I'll say it again, Harrington is in over his head and just can not compete at the pro level. He rose to his level of incompetence. No coach will ever get a professional level of play out of him...ever.
posted by commander cody at 11:01 PM on February 08, 2006
So the on-again off-again is on again? Alright. Now, I hope he's got some magic yet in those fingers, although it'll take more than that to turn the Lions' ship around. Joey Harrington may yet pan out, but like they say, he's no Marc Bulger.
posted by chicobangs at 11:14 PM on February 08, 2006
he can't be any worse than the guy he is replacing, can he?
posted by jindetroit at 11:46 PM on February 08, 2006
jindetroit, you're about to find out.
posted by chicobangs at 12:05 AM on February 09, 2006
This is a great day in Detroit Lion's football! If Mike Martz can make anything out of the potential the Lions offesive weapons have, we may see a real team on the field on Sunday. Let's go LIONS!
posted by jacobs-t at 04:30 AM on February 09, 2006
I hope Martz can coach Charles Rogers off the wacky weed.
posted by Bill Lumbergh at 09:37 AM on February 09, 2006
Note this odd coincidence in Detroit coaching hires: Matt Millen has now hired: Mornhinweg, Mariucci, Marinelli and now Martz. They might get John Madden out of the broadcasters booth in a couple years. Dick Jauron never had a chance.
posted by bluesdog at 09:38 AM on February 09, 2006
Looks like Millen thinks he can continue to screw up a bad thing with no self-depreciation. I can't wait until the Detroit football fan realizes that they've been taking it up the anus for years due to an owner who doesn't care, and a manager who couldn't find his ass with both hands. And then wait until Millen finally DOES get fired, and has to try finding a job elsewhere.
posted by mrhockey at 09:40 AM on February 09, 2006
well done detroit, i believe finally millen has a clue about how to build a team first the defensive coordinator hendersen excellant choice! hiring a coach who learned under robinson,dungy,gruden nice choice! now hiring martz who will get the offense going in the right direction he will get the qb situation straight,kevin jones your wish came true you are going to get an offensive line that works to create holes for rbs,offensive plays that will keep the defenses guessing for once instead of reading every play i didnt like the lions choice of millen but with the moves millen made this year in his coaching hires bravo i have studied martz's offensive units over the years and lions fans get ready to eat your fire millen signs i did
posted by EXPROMXER at 10:46 AM on February 09, 2006
Memo to Martz: The superbowl in Detroit happens infinitely more often than Detroit in the Superbowl.
posted by Bill Lumbergh at 11:05 AM on February 09, 2006
Memo to Martz: The superbowl in Detroit happens infinitely more often than Detroit in the Superbowl. That's what I was thinking. Good choice, Martz. Way to intentially walk into a nice, stable situation. I think Martz just wants to coach indoors. Maybe he should switch to arena football.
posted by dyams at 11:16 AM on February 09, 2006
As a Detroit fan, this one makes my stomach turn. I remember when we did this the first time with Mouse Davis. Martz, as a head coach, has a troubled past with authority, namely GMs and ownership. Now, Martz enters the organization as a coordinator underneath Marinelli who has no head coaching experience. I see a clash of personalities in the making. One that will hopefully lead to the demise of Millen and perhaps a change of ownership. Listen up Karmanos, sell your tampa hockey team and get yourself a local football squad.
posted by gradys_kitchen at 11:33 AM on February 09, 2006
Martz is a Donkey Dick Idiot, along with I don't have a freaking clue how to run a football organization Matt Millen make a great marriage in hell for the Detroit Pussy-Cats. Altie Taylor where are you when you are needed to give this running game a jolt.Oh I forgot Barry Sanders got smart and got the hell out of town. Smart move Barry for leaving those jackasses before they ran you into paralysis or senility.
posted by Daddy-O at 12:15 PM on February 09, 2006
At least Detroit doesn't have to worry about him (mis)managing the clock, throwing out the flag on bizarre challenges, or placing absolutely zero importance on special teams. The man was clueless as a head coach- lets hope he fares better as an OC, but I wouldn't bet on it.
posted by Bury Bonds at 01:28 PM on February 09, 2006
Martz is a Donkey Dick Idiot Other than coming up with St. Louis' offense and helping to win a Super Bowl, what has he ever done?
posted by yerfatma at 01:37 PM on February 09, 2006
Oh, yerfatma, if only you lived in St. Louis. Mike Martz was the author of a brilliant offensive scheme for about two years, and I think then it worked best because Dick Vermeil was running the show. When Martz became head honcho, he immediately completely forgot that a) he had a stud running back in Marshall Faulk and b) you occasionally have to field a defense. Frankly, I'm quite sure if you were to make up a list of the worst playcalls in the past five years, Martz would have 15 of the top 20. Good O coordinator under a strong head coach -- lousy head coach. Can he be just as good under an untested head coach? I seriously doubt it.
posted by wfrazerjr at 01:52 PM on February 09, 2006
I'm glad they got Martz, its better than last years similar hiring of Dick Jauron (how he got another coaching job is beyond me) and I think that he has the potential to do very well in Detroit. Then again, it is Detroit so I should take that all back.
posted by Ying Yang Mafia at 01:56 PM on February 09, 2006
Mike Martz was the author of a brilliant offensive scheme for about two years, and I think then it worked best because Dick Vermeil was running the show. That's what I'm interested to find out. Did Martz have a job before this or did he pop out of Dick Vermeil's head fully-formed, a la Athena and Zeus?
posted by yerfatma at 02:44 PM on February 09, 2006
That's what I'm interested to find out. Did Martz have a job before this or did he pop out of Dick Vermeil's head fully-formed, a la Athena and Zeus? Martz's first coaching appointment was at Bullard High in Fresno, California, in 1973. He also coached at San Diego Mesa (1974, 1976-77), San Jose State (1975), Santa Ana College in Santa Ana, California (1978), Fresno State (1979), University of the Pacific (1980-81), and Minnesota (1982). He was quarterbacks and receivers coach at Arizona State from 1983-87 and was the Sun Devils’ offensive coordinator in 1984 and from 1988-91. He joined the Rams in 1992 as an unpaid assistant coach. Martz also had a two-year coaching stint with the Washington Redskins (1997-98). I just couldn't go on living with the visual thought of Martz popping out of Dick Vermeil's head.
posted by dyams at 06:43 PM on February 09, 2006
I just couldn't go on living with the visual thought of Martz popping out of Dick Vermeil's head. I don't think I could go on living thinking about ANYTHING popping out of Vermeil anywhere. Yuck!
posted by commander cody at 07:05 PM on February 09, 2006
I don't think I could go on living thinking about ANYTHING popping out of Vermeil anywhere. Yuck! With the exception of buckets full of tears!
posted by dyams at 08:53 PM on February 09, 2006
LOL!
posted by commander cody at 10:06 PM on February 09, 2006
It's one thing that he had the "greatest show on turf" thing going with the Rams. If he does anything within light years of that with Detroit then he truly is a miracle worker.