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December 28, 2005
Venezuela rebuffs veto on Cuba's World Classic Participation: Venezuela may decline to participate in the Baseball Classic if Cuba isn't allowed to play. Puerto Rico has already said that they will no longer "host" games, in rejection to the veto. This is another great example of how politics can ruin a good sports event.
posted by zippinglou to baseball at 12:27 PM - 46 comments
No permitir el equipo cubano del béisbol también juego tenía que ofender algunos otros países latinoamericanos. Qué impresiona esto tendrá es muy poco. Viva la carrera.
posted by HATER 187 at 12:43 PM on December 28, 2005
Good for them, maybe if enough countries do this the United States will let Cuba participate. Then again, it will make Congress look stupid so it probably won't happen.
posted by Ying Yang Mafia at 12:45 PM on December 28, 2005
Hater, Can you please offer subtitles for us less educated fans? All of my spanish speaking friends are working today so I can't get them to translate. Thanks, Amigo.
posted by Termite at 01:03 PM on December 28, 2005
Interesting story I'm sure....wish I could read it.
posted by stockman at 01:27 PM on December 28, 2005
why do we even care if cuba plays. according to CNN, castro is an asshole. AND, the fewer latin american teams that participate, the better the chance of the good ol' USA coming out with a win. and isnt that what really matters here?
posted by grizzay at 01:56 PM on December 28, 2005
Heh heh, grizzay...wonder how many fish you're gonna catch with that one...
posted by lil_brown_bat at 02:05 PM on December 28, 2005
Congress allows education trips to Cuba from the U.S. but disallows Cuba baseball to participate in their tournament. How is this attitude different from the 1972 attitude in Munich when the massacre is deleted? Will the decision making politicians stand up and be recognized or are they cowards, afraid to not be re-elected? Happy New Year to all.
posted by unity in sports at 02:10 PM on December 28, 2005
why do we even care if cuba plays. according to CNN, castro is an asshole. AND, the fewer latin american teams that participate, the better the chance of the good ol' USA coming out with a win. and isnt that what really matters here? Sentences that beign with a why (or who, or what, or when, or where or how) end with a ? not a . Sentences really shouldn't start with conjunctions (AND) You also come across as a xenophobic jerk and that is the real reason I decided to over analyze your post. PS double space after periods
posted by HATER 187 at 02:20 PM on December 28, 2005
you also come across as a xenophobic jerk... me? a xenophobe? i am nothing of the sort. just ask my amigo jose. my point was that the latino players are very good. so the less of them there are, the better our chances. comprehension is the first step to enightenment, grasshopper. and i am familiar with the rules of english grammar; but i kinda dont care?
posted by grizzay at 02:44 PM on December 28, 2005
I am pleased to announce that our two friends, Hater and grizzay are to be married. You are all welcome to join them in their beautiful ceremony. It will have to be at a location where that sort of thing is allowed. Surely not Cuba or Venezuela. Hey Weedy, can we do it at your place?
posted by Termite at 02:59 PM on December 28, 2005
Good thing grizzay doesn't run the olympics, instead of an international competition it would be see how good of scores the Americans can get!
posted by Ying Yang Mafia at 03:07 PM on December 28, 2005
hello?! i was born in kansas. why would i want some other country to win? of course i wanna see U.S.A. win everything.
posted by grizzay at 03:09 PM on December 28, 2005
i heart mexicans !!
posted by grizzay at 03:10 PM on December 28, 2005
Lack of competition would cheapen a win. I would rather see my guys beat the best.
posted by HATER 187 at 03:25 PM on December 28, 2005
Hater, Ying Yang...y'all been trolled.
posted by lil_brown_bat at 04:10 PM on December 28, 2005
that's an overrated idea. i want my team to win whether its against the dominican all-star team, or the little league team from jerry's sport shop. all wins are good wins, grasshopper.
posted by grizzay at 04:12 PM on December 28, 2005
Hater, Can you please offer subtitles for us less educated fans? All of my spanish speaking friends are working today so I can't get them to translate. Thanks, Amigo. So, Hater's comments being in Spanish threw you, but the article, which was presented entirely in Spanish, gave you no problem? Hmmmm...
posted by The_Black_Hand at 04:29 PM on December 28, 2005
Wait, we're supposed to read the articles?
posted by blarp at 04:40 PM on December 28, 2005
the little league team from jerry's sport shop Holy crap! I used to know half the staff there. Also, on topic, Venezuela has actually offered to host part of the games, and proposed moving the final to Canada, so that Cuba can participate.
posted by Ufez Jones at 05:16 PM on December 28, 2005
Dineh tah i Cuba ul-so do ya sho da. Tazi cha lit be tah has gla ta-lai-di chiz. And I could give a rat's ass less how many of you can translate Navajo. If you want someone to read this crap, link it to a language most people understand.
posted by mrhockey at 05:53 PM on December 28, 2005
While it seems best to to read the article, if not in an unknown language, before commenting I notice that 99.9% of all posts are related not to the article but in response to another post. I rarely find something interesting in the article whereas I get different opinions and find great humor in the follow-up posts. That is the fun of SportsFilter to me.
posted by Termite at 06:15 PM on December 28, 2005
Update.... Luis Sojo guarantees that Venezuela will play:
"El manager Luis Sojo, declaró que pese a todo la vinotinto estará en el campo de juego en marzo, que de hecho ya tienen planificado jugar un amistoso contra Filis de Filadelfia, antes de iniciar la competencia mundialista. "
-- Translation:
Manager Luis Sojo declared that despite everything, Venezuela will be on the playing field in March, and that they have already arranged friendly games with the Philadelphia Phillies.
posted by zippinglou at 07:08 PM on December 28, 2005
Using the Ajax Translator, I will transmogrify Hater's words into some semblance of English: Puedo escribir a máquina español con soltura mas yo no puedo leer español. Esto es una cosa muy confusa. = I can write to Spanish machine with soltura but I cannot read Spanish. This is a very confused thing. No permitir el equipo cubano del béisbol también juego tenía que ofender algunos otros países latinoamericanos. Qué impresiona esto tendrá es muy poco. Viva la carrera. = Not to allow to the Cuban equipment of the baseball also game had to offend some other Latin American countries. What impresses this will have is very little. The race lives. Esta bien?
posted by worldcup2002 at 12:14 AM on December 29, 2005
I had heard that George W. Bush spoke some Spanish. I didn't know he wrote about sports, too.
posted by owlhouse at 01:04 AM on December 29, 2005
somebody tell bush that castro is old to play and che is dead
posted by reydeer at 01:25 AM on December 29, 2005
worldcup that is a perfect example on how translators are not always accurate.
posted by Ying Yang Mafia at 05:38 AM on December 29, 2005
Worldcup, I'm not so certain the Ajax Translator is really effective. It does not take into account that some words don't exist in some languages. Lavida es puta.
posted by mrhockey at 09:59 AM on December 29, 2005
So you don't use Ajax, that means 'life is a bitch'.
posted by mrhockey at 10:01 AM on December 29, 2005
Even if you where able to read spanish, como yo (like me), the link is linking to the wrong article. This is the correct link
posted by ProSam at 11:46 AM on December 29, 2005
LOL. This thread is awesome. 1. Initial post is in Spanish, which most of us can't read 2. Everybody is arguing anyway about something they didn't read (nothing new) 3. Takes us 30 comments before someone posts the correct article. 4. Nobody really knows if it's the correct one anyway. But why does it feel so right?
posted by worldcup2002 at 12:00 PM on December 29, 2005
btw, Ying Yang, I never said it was perfect, I said "some semblance" of English. Nevertheless, it got us a little closer to understanding what was being said. Also, I didn't see anyone just go ahead and translate it for us, even though there are obviously people who can understand, speak and write Spanish in this thread. Don't hate the translator, hate the game.
posted by worldcup2002 at 12:02 PM on December 29, 2005
I'm with wc2k2. This is the bestest thread ever.
posted by chicobangs at 12:54 PM on December 29, 2005
I love...ahem...I mean, yo amor poste 5785. Absolutely classic thread!
posted by redsnare at 01:55 PM on December 29, 2005
Bagaimana percakapan ini? Saya tidak mengerti. Tetapi percakapan paling baik. Benar.
posted by owlhouse at 02:30 PM on December 29, 2005
Die Eier von Satan Eine halbe Tasse Staubzucker Ein Viertel Teelöffel Salz Eine Messerspitze türkisches Haschisch Ein halbes Pfund Butter Ein Teelöffel Vanillenzucker Ein halbes Pfund Mehl Einhundertfünfzig Gramm gemahlene Nüsse Ein wenig extra Staubzucker ... und keine Eier In eine Schüssel geben Butter einrühren Gemahlene Nüsse zugeben und Den Teig verkneten Augenballgroße Stücke vom Teig formen Im Staubzucker wälzen und Sagt die Zauberwörter Simsalbimbamba Saladu Saladim Auf ein gefettetes Backblech legen und Bei zweihundert Grad für fünfzehn Minuten backen und KEINE EIER Bei zweihundert Grad für fünfzehn Minuten backen und Keine Eier ..
posted by HATER 187 at 04:12 PM on December 29, 2005
owlhouse: Kamu fasih dalam Bahasa, ya? Bahasa Indonesia atau Malaysia?
posted by worldcup2002 at 04:27 PM on December 29, 2005
Bitte ein Bis!, This thread makes me thirsty.
posted by tselson at 04:34 PM on December 29, 2005
HATER's recipe (LOL): The eggs of Satan a half cup of dust sugar (powdered sugar?) a quarter of teeloeffel (I'm guessing a teaspoon) salt a pinch Turkish hashish a half Pound of butter a teeloeffel vanilla sugar a half Pound flour one hundred fifty gram gemahlene Nuesse a little specially a dust sugar ... and no eggs into a dish give butter stir Gemahlene Nuesse add and the paste knead eye-ball-large pieces of the paste form in the dust sugar roll and say the magic words Simsalbimbamba Saladu Saladim on a greased baking sheet metal put and with two hundred degrees for fifteen minutes to bake and NO EGGS with two hundred degrees for fifteen minutes to bake and no eggs. Good grief.
posted by worldcup2002 at 04:34 PM on December 29, 2005
Not mine but a good way to spicen up a dead thread and no eggs.
posted by HATER 187 at 04:49 PM on December 29, 2005
SpoFi: NO EGGS!
posted by worldcup2002 at 09:13 PM on December 29, 2005
Actually, I first thought it was the lyrics to Nina's 99 Luftballoons. Padahal, pialadunia2002: Dulu, saya tinggal lama di Indonesia - dan belajar bahasa itu, sambil mengajar Bahasa Inggeris. Kadang kadang saya kembali ke negeri itu (masih ada tugas di sana), tapi Bahasa Indonesia saya kurang baik dan benar.
posted by owlhouse at 10:27 PM on December 29, 2005
Wah, Tok Owlie, bahasa mu sungguh hebat. Nampaknya, Bahasa Indonesia dan Bahasa Malaysia sangat kecil perbezaannya. (Saya anak Malaysia.) Saya harap kita boleh berjumpa satu hari kini. Mungkin kita ada banyak bicara. Xie xie, sien sen. ;-)
posted by worldcup2002 at 11:03 PM on December 29, 2005
btw, owlie, I'm fixin' to make you my first interview of 2006. How does that sound?
posted by worldcup2002 at 11:06 PM on December 29, 2005
As long as it's not in Malaysian! You're right - there are a few subtle differences, mostly enough to get me into trouble, but not out of it.
posted by owlhouse at 11:30 PM on December 29, 2005
I always heard that you didn't need to speak the language to read the Box Score. And I always thought that sport was usually above politics internationally. On the other hand - why didn't the organizers clear this before hand. I know that a dispensation was needed when the cubans played the Orioles a few years ago.
posted by knuckleballer at 05:46 PM on December 31, 2005
Puedo escribir a máquina español con soltura mas yo no puedo leer español. Esto es una cosa muy confusa.