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August 31, 2005
Pass the plate for Peerless?: The Atlanta Falcons have decided they can do without wide receiver Peerless Price, a player the Falcons gave up a first-round pick for just two years ago. Price had the guts to ask if he was getting axed in order to try and latch on somewhere else, and head coach Jim Mora had the guts to tell him the truth.
Well, one of the reasons I posted this was his contract status. I'm assuming he now gets squat, even though he was still a serviceable player. It was the Falcons who signed him to that huge contract, and now they get to walk away from it. Makes you understand TO a little better, doesn't it?
posted by wfrazerjr at 02:07 PM on August 31, 2005
Nothing makes me understand TO better. When you sign a contract with a company you agree to terms. In the NFL, these players have double protection. They have a players union, which oversees the terms of the general agreements in the league. Then each player has a personal agent (generally which are very highly paid lawyers) to oversee the drafting of their specific contracts. If TO wanted the ability to renegotiate or Price wanted guaranteed money then put it in the deal. If you owned a company selling something (lets say clothes) and you hired a salesman to a five year sales contract you would not expect him to call the next year and say I am not coming in till you pay me more. Plus, a company always has a right to fire an employee (pursuant to the contract)
posted by mcstan13 at 02:17 PM on August 31, 2005
non-guaranteed contracts will hurt the NFL more than it realizes.
posted by garfield at 02:23 PM on August 31, 2005
If you owned a company selling something (lets say clothes) and you hired a salesman to a five year sales contract you would not expect him to call the next year and say I am not coming in till you pay me more. Boss, I got another job offer, and I'm going to take it unless you give me a raise... Yep, seems normal to me.
posted by cl at 02:58 PM on August 31, 2005
depends on if your contract will let you leave
posted by mcstan13 at 03:04 PM on August 31, 2005
So after teaching Mike Vick how to be a proper QB, with an offense that asks more of his ability to fit into a system and less of his arm & legs, now he has one less quality receiver to throw to. He's going to set the QB rushing record this year, West Coast Offense be damned. And Price will turn up somewhere. He's not the greatest receiver on the planet, but he's good enough to have some team take a flyer on him.
posted by chicobangs at 03:09 PM on August 31, 2005
Boss, I got another job offer, and I'm going to take it unless you give me a raise... Depends on the field your in. Most of my jobs when I was in sales had a non-competition clause. I could not leave and go work in the same field. However if I was fired or laid off then I could. Nothing wrong with the same thing in pro sports.
posted by scottypup at 03:10 PM on August 31, 2005
He's not the first big name to ever be cut in August. It's totally different in the NFL than in any other sport, but it still has that jaw drop effect. Will be interesting to see where he lands, if the Falcons were in the AFC East I'd automatically say Buffalo. ...other than that, continue on with the comparison of working in the NFL with any average job. That's always a hot discussion around here.
posted by YukonGold at 03:52 PM on August 31, 2005
Yea I know but I can't resist.
posted by scottypup at 04:47 PM on August 31, 2005
I'd trade my job for a job in the NFL anyday!
posted by tdheiland at 06:10 PM on August 31, 2005
I don't understand what happened to his career . When he was in Buffalo he and Moulds were 1 and 2 in the AFC in receptions and he was first in yards receiving . That was with Doug Flutie at QB. Price wanted more money so the Bills sent him to Atlanta, who had a new QB by the name of Michael Vick , giving away a number 1 draft pick . They never clicked in the 2 seasons there and now he's out of a job . That's a quick fall from glory.
posted by evil empire at 06:41 PM on August 31, 2005
The only explanation I can think of is that Vick and Price grew to really not like each other personally. He was too good in Buffalo to not get better with a more talented QB. Unless something has changed in Price's personal life, that's the only professional explanation I can think of for his sudden drop in output.
posted by chicobangs at 07:27 PM on August 31, 2005
I think it was last week's TMQ that pointed out how ineffective Vick is as a passer. Hell of an arm, amazing scrambler. I've yet to see him hit someone other than a TE reliably. Don't see a ton of Falcons games though, so I'm extrapolating from a small sample set.
posted by yerfatma at 08:29 PM on August 31, 2005
Going back to the contract situation, if a player signs a contract, which is a legal document, then he/she should honor it. No arbitration, no hold outs, no nothing. You get what you agreed to, and if a multi-million dollar contract is not enough, then your a pathetic representative of the human race.
posted by bdf1010 at 10:49 PM on August 31, 2005
Nothing makes me understand TO better. If you owned a company selling something (lets say clothes) and you hired a salesman to a five year sales contract you would not expect him to call the next year and say I am not coming in till you pay me more. Plus, a company always has a right to fire an employee (pursuant to the contract) Lets try to keep our analogies a little more realistic. Whens the last time a salesperson at the gap got thier leg snapped in 2 after being horse-collared by a customer looking for an 18 husky. And if that employee did get his/her leg snapped on the job, the average american would stay out of work on disability for a dam year( and sue the company in most cases). Whens the last time a clothes salesperson dropped dead from selling shirts and ties. I know its a game and i think pro athletes are over paid. But with the risk they take to their health for our entertainment.I'm in no place to judge them for what they "ask for". Keep in mind, TO is getting nothing different then what is in the contract he signed. he (not so simply) said what a truck load of union workers say every year. "im going on strike for more money".Pay me what "i" think im worth now as opposed to last year. Plain and simple, TO is not in the top 10 paid WR's in the NFL. he has had ample time to look over his contract and feels he's under paid now. What the hell are sports franchises anyway "glorified used car salesman"? you've never felt like you were "taken advantage of" after signing the paperwork for a used car? the eagles are known for being tight with money, and as bad as TO wanted out of baltimore, he would have signed a contract requiring his left kidney.
posted by Web_Spiner at 01:20 AM on September 01, 2005
"I don't understand what happened to his career . When he was in Buffalo he and Moulds were 1 and 2 in the AFC in receptions and he was first in yards receiving . That was with Doug Flutie at QB. Price wanted more money so the Bills sent him to Atlanta, who had a new QB by the name of Michael Vick , giving away a number 1 draft pick . They never clicked in the 2 seasons there and now he's out of a job . That's a quick fall from glory." Being a huge Bills fan and following them closely, along with the current and ex players, I think there are numerous reasons for Price not living up to expectations. The number one reason being: He is not a number one receiver. He is an excellent number two receiver. The reason he looked so good in Buffalo is because Moulds took all the pressure (to include coverage) off of him. Who are you going to double team? Moulds or Price? I would double Moulds. If Price lands somewhere (which I don't see why he won't and I think the best move out there would be for the Eagles to grab him) as long as he is the number 2 reciever, he will put up big numbers again. Especially if he is opposite T.O.
posted by Stealth_72 at 01:33 AM on September 01, 2005
and if a multi-million dollar contract is not enough, then your a pathetic representative of the human race. Again we need perspective. What world are you living in? These guys hold out every year. The NHL just locked players out because they think the players get to much money,and the league and the owners want more of the revenue.Are they pathetic? Remember, TO is comparing the money he gets to the top 10 producers in his field.In which he is in the top 3 easy. When a hooker at the bunny ranch asks for more money,that pimp guy on HBO doesnt say "you would be a crackwhore in chester PA if it wasnt for me".She wants to be paid in the same range as the other girls at the ranch.Not in the range of the girls in the HBO special "it aint easy being a ho".Yea, the pimp guy got her off the street(somewhere she didnt want to be)but in the time being she realizes that she is still being paid like she was a crackwhore, and not like those high class broads at the "cathouse". Stop looking at it like TO is saying "compared to the school teachers in america, i aint getting paid shiot bitches".
posted by Web_Spiner at 02:05 AM on September 01, 2005
T.O. + Bunny Ranch Hookers + Contract = Amazing
posted by YukonGold at 06:38 AM on September 01, 2005
If Price lands somewhere (which I don't see why he won't and I think the best move out there would be for the Eagles to grab him) as long as he is the number 2 reciever, he will put up big numbers again. Especially if he is opposite T.O. Thats a great idea. I'd think it would be a perfect fit .
posted by evil empire at 08:22 AM on September 01, 2005
Eagles are a great idea. So is returning to Buffalo. He'll land somewhere, but I agree that he is much better off as a number 2 than a 1.
posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 08:33 AM on September 01, 2005
I think that it is time that the average American stop kissing the butts of professional athletes. "But with the risk they take to their health for our entertainment." Please... these guys make more money in one year then 99% of Americans will make in their collective lives. These players need to shut the hell up and thank the Lord that they have the oppurtunity to piss away more money on their rides then you will see all of next year.
posted by mcstan13 at 08:37 AM on September 01, 2005
from the boston globe "Price was scheduled to visit with the Patriots yesterday and had trips to Miami and Dallas planned for later this week."
posted by YukonGold at 08:44 AM on September 01, 2005
Great, that's all we need in Miami, another receiver for Feeley and Frerotte to miss.
posted by The_Black_Hand at 08:49 AM on September 01, 2005
He'll land somewhere! There are several teams out there, who could use a spare over-rated/over paid WR....