February 01, 2004

New England outlasts Carolina to claim second Super Bowl title.: As if it were a replay of two years ago, Adam Vinitieri kicks a field goal with seconds left to lift the Pats to the NFL championship over the upstart Carolina Panthers. All of the Carolinas are blue tonight.

posted by jasonbondshow to football at 09:38 PM - 41 comments

im numb.

posted by jerseygirl at 09:49 PM on February 01, 2004

Fun game. I loved the way the Panthers played, and they certainly had a shot at winning, but they had too many penalties and dropped passes.

posted by kirkaracha at 10:04 PM on February 01, 2004

I thought my heart was going to stop five or six times during the game. One of the most exciting finishes to a Superbowl (perhaps to compensate for the 20+ scoreless minutes in the first half) since, well, The Patriots played The Rams in Super Bowl XXXVI.

posted by Joey Michaels at 10:05 PM on February 01, 2004

The announcers pointed out an interested quirk: Ricky Proehl, the receiver of the then-tying Carolina Panthers TD with 1:08 left... was also the receiver playing for the Rams in 2001 who caught the game-tying TD pass with about a minute left, only to have the same team, the Patriots, drive back to set up a winning Vinatieri field goal with a handful of seconds left.... same player, same situation, same exact outcome against the same team. Looks like the Panthers have fallen victims to the "Curse of Ricky Proehl". I so called this, too- when Vinatieri missed that first field goal in the first quarter, I said to the room, "You just know he'll end up kicking the game winner with seconds left after Carolina ties it up..."

posted by hincandenza at 10:18 PM on February 01, 2004

A bunch of radio announcers started talking about the Best Superbowl Ever. No way.

posted by lbergstr at 10:33 PM on February 01, 2004

Pretty good game, helped along by the fact I was drinking a draft Hoegaarden when V. kicked the field goal. Congrats Pats!

posted by vito90 at 10:33 PM on February 01, 2004

Btw, spofi playoff pool results are posted.

posted by hincandenza at 10:45 PM on February 01, 2004

What the hell was the Carolina kicker THINKING when he booted the last kickoff out of bounds?! All he has to do is kick it straight down the middle and even if they run it back to the 30, it's still better than letting them start with ZERO time lost on the 40. Ugh. I just KNEW it was over when that happened. And if I hear that Carolina played "prevent defence", I'll scream. The only thing "prevent defences" prevents is a chance for your own team to win.

posted by grum@work at 10:50 PM on February 01, 2004

I think it would have ended differently if it wasn't for the Panthers trying for those two 2-point conversions. Even so, the game was exciting and entertaining. Both teams were matched up pretty evenly. Congrats to the Pats.

posted by jasonspaceman at 05:48 AM on February 02, 2004

my head hurts

posted by corpse at 06:20 AM on February 02, 2004

i woke up this morning, had to think hard if we actually won, suddenly recalled that we did, and it was a little easier getting up out of bed. it's great for the city to have this, especially after how the red sox ended and how the celtics have been going. and not to sound jaded, but the first win was so much more... triumphant. In 01, we went in as "flukes" and ridiculous underdogs after the Rams and everyone else trash talking the team for the days leading up to the big game.

posted by jerseygirl at 06:44 AM on February 02, 2004

In my mind the only remaining important question is whether Vinatieri's statue is only on the Commons or whether they actually cover it in gold and put it on top of the statehouse dome. [Not that I care, I'm just observing- sadly the only Boston team that I 100% cannot care for is the only one that has really accomplished anything since I've moved here.]

posted by tieguy at 06:46 AM on February 02, 2004

I missed almost the entire game (including the "shocking" halftime show I heard about this morning). Caught about 5 minutes of the first quarter, then some dinner guests arrived, and my sweetie forced me to shut off the game and be a nice host. After we'd eaten, I begged and was allowed to turn it on again, and caught parts of it from the Pats last touchdown on. Those last 5 minutes were pretty exciting. Way to go Pats. Been a good year for Carolina.

posted by rocketman at 07:47 AM on February 02, 2004

I predicted that it would be a close game, likely won by Vinatieri. Aside from that, it didn't go much according to my expectations. Brady's passing had timely completions but didn't seem spectacular; the Pats defense held hard early and got baffled late; the Pats didn't get a single pick, and Brady threw one; and Adam V missing from 31 yards??? But a great game by two teams playing very good football. I predict it would have been a bigger margin of victory if it weren't so damn hot in Houston -- if it was 10 degrees with a 40 MPH win, the Pats would have won by 20 ;-)

posted by lil_brown_bat at 08:17 AM on February 02, 2004

Great game and certainly much higher scoring than I expect. Did anyone else think the condition of the field was pretty sorry for such an important game. Players were losing their footing on both teams far too often I thought.

posted by trox at 08:46 AM on February 02, 2004

my sweetie forced me to shut off the game and be a nice host. WHAT?! If people showed up on Superbowl Sunday, they'd be invited to watch the game with me. If they didn't want to, they could come back tomorrow. It's the Superbowl! You can't shut the Superbowl off! My mother's brother called their house last night during the game to talk to my mom and the first thing we remarked was "why isn't he watching the Superbowl!?"

posted by jerseygirl at 09:06 AM on February 02, 2004

apparently, it was so humid in there trox. made the field conditions poor and slippery.

posted by jerseygirl at 09:06 AM on February 02, 2004

i'll be damned. that was a good game.

posted by forksclovetofu at 09:38 AM on February 02, 2004

now can anyone explain what happened with the streaker or is that in the janet jackson's booby thread?

posted by forksclovetofu at 09:38 AM on February 02, 2004

never mind, it's over there. I'm suffering from logorrhea lately...

posted by forksclovetofu at 09:44 AM on February 02, 2004

we can talk streaker in here. apparently, he was posing as a ref and then went on about his nekkid business for about half a minute on the field. i heard on the radio that matt chatham clocked him at one point, but i dont know how accurate that is.

posted by jerseygirl at 09:45 AM on February 02, 2004

I'm suffering from logorrhea lately... Try some Pepto.

posted by jerseygirl at 09:46 AM on February 02, 2004

That turned into an exciting game after a poor start. Well done to the Patriots. Btw, that streaker has previous.

posted by squealy at 10:56 AM on February 02, 2004

I agree with what grum@work typed at the top. Carolina lost the game because the kicker couldn't keep the ball on the field. For some bizzare reason a lot of the write-ups on the game seem to miss this. If he keeps the damn ball in-bounds the Patriots would really have to work to get those 3 points. Giving the Pats good field position was bad enough, but taking no time of the clock is what really killed them. Give creidit to the Patroits for making it into field goal range, but they only had to 25 yards. was a minute on the clock and all of their time-outs.

posted by camcanuck at 12:02 PM on February 02, 2004

Same thing happened to the Giants on Monday Night this year...against the Cowboys?

posted by garfield at 12:14 PM on February 02, 2004

Stuff happens, camcanuck. That final Carolina kick mattered because Adam V. couldn't hit from 31 yards. Or: it mattered because the Patriots muffed the call at the end of the first half. Or: it mattered because Brady threw the ball when all they really needed was a field goal. You can always point at errors, and it's always tempting to say that the last error was the turning point, but really it's a cumulative game. The Pats won because they played very slightly better than Carolina. When you get right down to it, that's all there is.

posted by Bryant at 05:08 PM on February 02, 2004

The Patriots won because they got the ball last (with enough time to do anything anyway). Of course they deserved the win, but does anyone think that Delhomme and company couldn't have driven down the field for 3 at that point given a little over a minute?

posted by trox at 08:49 AM on February 03, 2004

as i sit here watching the superbowl parade on tv, i realize now i am going to miss football so much now that its over. i didn't want to go out to the parade this year. I went the last time. It was fun, but cold. And even though I'm so proud of the team and so happy about this win, there's nothing like the energy that was in the air after that first win. I'll never forget it. Today, I figured I'd stay dry, warm [and in work] today, and watch it on tv instead. I'll make the trip down 95 soon to pay my respect at the holy land in Foxboro and buy some stuff. I wonder if you can have wedding receptions at Gillette. I'll have to find out. That would be cool. So I was thinking... before this season, i wasn't what you'd call a die hard football fan. I'd watch the games, follow the news, but i think things changed this year. it was a great year. 14 regular season wins in a row and then a spectacular post-season. I learned more about the technicalities of the game, i learned some of the lingo, it didn't occur to me until the buildup to the Superbowl: I like football. I'm a two sport girl now. thanks Patriots :)

posted by jerseygirl at 11:00 AM on February 03, 2004

Glory hunter. ; )

posted by squealy at 12:12 PM on February 03, 2004

you just miss Brady's ass in his uniform ;)

posted by garfield at 12:24 PM on February 03, 2004

yes. girls cant like sports unless their motive is "cute boys". good call.

posted by jerseygirl at 12:26 PM on February 03, 2004

it can't hurt, right? But really, I'm just jealous of L.L. Brady.

posted by garfield at 12:38 PM on February 03, 2004

and that's not what i was saying. How could anyone who lives in the New England and is remotely interested in sports not have fallen in love with the 'no stars' team that just made the push to 'dynasty status.'

posted by garfield at 12:52 PM on February 03, 2004

tros: Of course they deserved the win, but does anyone think that Delhomme and company couldn't have driven down the field for 3 at that point given a little over a minute? Honestly, if ever there was a case of both teams deserving the win, this was it. I am a big Patriots fan, but damn if the Panthers didn't completely earn my respect during the game. They did some funky things (what was with the "no touchs backs" during the returns? Two point conversion attempts?) but during the last quarter, I thought Delhomme was unstopable. I'll do you one better on your 3 points - I think Delhomme and his crew could have scored 6 in the last minute based on how they'd been playing. All that said, I was thrilled that the Pats won and, were I in the area, would have been out in the cold with jerseygirl.

posted by Joey Michaels at 01:07 PM on February 03, 2004

Hoegaarden I believe that's what Snoop has behind his hizzouse, Vito. Great game, but why in the hell is everyone canonizing Adam V.? He was ONE FOR THREE, folks, with a horrible push and a ball that was so low it might have gone up the longsnapper's ass. Yes, he hit the big one, but mainly he had a lousy day. Also, wtf is up with Brady being the MVP? For God's sake, could you do more in a single game than Mike Vrabel? Six tackles, a pair of sacks, a forced fumble AND a TD reception? I suppose he had covered up Janet's boob and socked Justin in the nose, he might have won it.

posted by wfrazerjr at 01:12 PM on February 03, 2004

wtf is up with Brady being the MVP? Did someone say superstarless NFL? No longer. With Vick going MIA most of the season, I think Brady has been slotted to fill that void. Good luck to him too....Montana comparisons must be a little difficult to swallow.

posted by garfield at 01:24 PM on February 03, 2004

wtf is up with Brady being the MVP? TMQ picked "who-dat" Patriots right tackle Tom Ashworth as his Super Bowl MVP for shutting down the Panthers' Julius Peppers, and says "the New England offensive line was the essence of the team's championship." Montana comparisons must be a little difficult to swallow The San Francisco Chronicle says Brady compares favorably to Montana. They've got a chart comparing their first four seasons.

posted by kirkaracha at 02:54 PM on February 03, 2004

Montana's legend has always been better than his statistics. Maybe Brady will have a similar career: good, not great numbers, but always wins the big ones.

posted by dusted at 03:10 PM on February 03, 2004

Kirk, I couldn't agree more (except I think it should have been Vrabel). To shut out the Panther front four was something I don't think anyone saw coming in. When does the Patriot O-line coach get a coordinator gig?

posted by wfrazerjr at 05:21 PM on February 03, 2004

Need something to remember the Pats' SuperBowl victory over the Eagles by?

posted by yerfatma at 07:06 AM on February 04, 2004

uh huh huh ... wood. I'd like to have that mock-up. If dirty underwear sells on eBay, I think I could make some cash on that.

posted by wfrazerjr at 09:25 AM on February 04, 2004

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