- 01:29 AM
- 12/22/24
The Seminoles are actually an amalgam of the original indians found in Florida(can't remember the name), some black slaves, and the Creek Indians. They're the only tribe to never sign a peace treaty with the federal government and were never subdued by federal forces. They now own and run numerous casinos and bought the Hard Rock Cafe chain of restaurants. The Seminoles negotiated and approved the use of their name and any asssociated images with FSU. The history of these people is a testament to their resilency, adaptability, and tenacity and is worth knowing. You won't read about them in the media because they don't fall into the "victim" category so cherished by the left. They're strong, independent, and no one can claim them as their "cause". Probably the same reason they're not a priority in the public schools that Yerfatma insists are not politically left. They don't need your righteous indignation about matters you don't understand and clearly haven't taken the time to find out. They've gotten what they wanted from FSU and the fact that you don't know that is not seminal to them. Pardon the pun.
posted by sandskater at 12:40 AM on December 10, 2009
Yerfatma. I don't equate the term "Redskin" with Seminole. Apparently you do. One is a slur, the other a legitimate name. You choose to read the politically incorrect nuance into "white pride". I don't. Your agenda is showing again. What caught my attention here was rcade's lack of curiosity for the 12 years his attention was drawn to a group he knew nothing about save they were the name of a college team. A little intellectual curiosity could have brought him up to speed. Apparently exercising some cultural awareness and learning about them wasn't important enough. That lacks the thrill of righteous indignation that comes from whaking the politically correct "Easy button". Like I said, call them the Vikings. Just don't tell the Swedes.
posted by sandskater at 10:33 PM on December 09, 2009
Let's call them the Vikings. No one has sued over the use of that name. Drop the name Seminoles, too. Then those who know nothing about them can completely forget they exist.
posted by sandskater at 01:53 PM on December 09, 2009
No rcade, I'm not joking. Please explain to me why you suggest I am and then read wfraz's comment.
posted by sandskater at 08:13 PM on September 29, 2009
Yerfatma, What part of voluntary don't you understand? Apparently all the boys weren't "Staw Manned" up to the agua. Agendized schools may be "irrelevant" to you, but not to everyone on this site. Your family members sound like exemplary educators. Kudos to them. Perhaps they can teach you not to let your overblown sense of self and political leanings cloud what must be an incredible intellect. Wfraz-You certainly do. To answer your question; No, you can't. See how easy that is? I don't have kids, but you can't take my Golden Retriever, either. The parents had the same opportunity you gave me. Incidently, why bring the mosque into play?
posted by sandskater at 05:51 PM on September 29, 2009
Student gets baptized=Reverend's daughter gets "banged". There's some real moral relativism.
posted by sandskater at 04:50 PM on September 29, 2009
I knew I could count on you, yerfatma. I don't know where your quote comes from (probably yourself), but I was in the educational profession for almost 40 years and I know of what I speak. How about you?
posted by sandskater at 04:38 PM on September 29, 2009
Jagsnumberone- Apparently you've never heard of Opus Dei. I am amazed by the hysterical vitriol put forth by some comments. The coach may have used better judgement, but his intentions were hardly satanic. This knee-jerk pride in damning anything traditional or religious is hardly the mark of a free-thinker. Going to church in Kentucky is like breathing and it appears the parents were aware of the destination of this trip. I'm sure any possible damage to this boy's secular soul can be undone and he can return to all things unspiritual unharmed. If you're truly disturbed by undue influence by agendized teachers you might look into university and public school curriculums and those who teach it. Now, there's a real baptism.
posted by sandskater at 03:11 PM on September 29, 2009
When the One Great Scorer Comes To mark against your name, He writes not whether you won or lost, But how you played the game. (Grantland Rice)
100 times on the blackboard, Serena.
posted by sandskater at 02:27 AM on September 14, 2009
This knee-jerk rush to connect the term "white pride'" to Nazism is indeed, curious. Had the tatoo said "white supremacy" I would understand the connection that many of you have made. The Nazi's, however, were even more selective than that, believing in the superiority of the northern European or "Aryan" race. You know, the tall, blond, supermen and women which were the poster children of the Nazi ideal. In the hierarchy of Nazi thinking many of us, white or not, would not have made the cut. In regard to the negative labeling of those that don't agree with us, I think the Nazi's had a pretty firm grasp of that, too. It's a shame it still persists today in supposedly "enlightened" individuals.
posted by sandskater at 01:19 AM on September 03, 2009
Amazing. Every specific comment thus far has focused on the tatooed words "white pride" as if this is some heinous statement. Must be the Bill Maher fan club link. I would have thought the Swastika would have drawn all the fiery rhetoric.
posted by sandskater at 12:50 AM on September 02, 2009
The problem goes well beyond soccer. It's a reflection of the animus felt by our neighbors to the south regarding anything "gringo".
posted by sandskater at 12:14 AM on August 17, 2009
Vick's presence in the NFL is a stain on its integrity. As far as his prison sentence, courts often mete out sentences that are not represenative of the seriousness of the crime. Anyone who can form a mental image of Vick swinging a dog on chain over his head to slam it on cement and still cheer for his success on the football field takes the "winning is the only thing" attitude to a new level.
posted by sandskater at 03:40 PM on August 14, 2009
His sentence was a joke. He hasn't "paid" for what he did and he should only be elgible for cage fighting where he can truly experience what he put those dogs through.
posted by sandskater at 10:59 AM on August 14, 2009
Si, se puede!
posted by sandskater at 07:03 PM on August 13, 2009
Michael Vick ha$ been enveloped by the $pirit of $t. Franci$ of A$$i$i. There'$ change you can believe in.
posted by sandskater at 01:24 AM on May 20, 2009
Seventeen years old, probably played hockey since he was three, and still has no concept of the hockey fight code? Better suited to an Alfred Hitchcock movie that comes to mind. The whole male part of the Roy family belongs on a Special Victims Unit episode.
posted by sandskater at 03:28 PM on November 26, 2008
While I love the tradition of events like the Derby, I'm beginning to wonder if it's worth the cost.
posted by sandskater at 01:47 AM on May 04, 2008
not all racism is equal,... Handicapping racism. Novel concept from an equally novel mind.
posted by sandskater at 03:44 PM on April 20, 2008
As trite, cliche, and non-responsive as expected.
posted by sandskater at 09:35 AM on April 20, 2008
Afl-Aba Your visceral reaction and utter disdain for the implication of the question points to one of two things; complete self-loathing of your own race or hatred of another's. In either event, how did you learn to hate so much?
posted by sandskater at 11:39 PM on April 19, 2008
Would the same outrage occur if it was an image of a shirtless, hairy, bib-overalled, southern, white guy spitting tobacco juice saying, "Shazam!"?
posted by sandskater at 12:37 PM on April 19, 2008
Avery should have gotten two minutes for semaphore. It may have looked ridiculous, but it wasn't a penalty. To be high-sticked, you have to be hit. I'm glad the NHL had the good sense to act on it immediately and maintain the integrity of the game.
posted by sandskater at 11:43 AM on April 16, 2008
It's a slippery slope when one world protestors can intimidate and dictate how the functions of the Olympics are carried out and make it their stage instead of the athletes.
posted by sandskater at 02:18 PM on April 08, 2008
Jose Conseco is the "Golum" of baseball-Can't play anymore so he tries to steal the "glow" from those who can.
posted by sandskater at 11:58 PM on March 26, 2008
The puck doesn't fall far from the stick. You don't need a DNA test to know this is Patrick Roy's kid.
posted by sandskater at 11:52 PM on March 24, 2008
I'll bet they still had a player who complained he didn't get enough ice time.
posted by sandskater at 09:00 AM on February 22, 2008
Age and injury have taken their toll upon Forsberg the Great and reduced him to Forsberg the Good(ok, maybe very good). That being said, his tenacity on the ice and his leadership in the locker room would elevate everyone's game and make Philadelphia a better team.
posted by sandskater at 12:17 AM on February 05, 2008
The best of times and the worst of times. That was Bob Knight. He could be a ranting, aggressive, pain in the kester. He also had great integrity and instilled discipline in his players. Gus"It's a lovers quarrel"Ganakas at Michigan State was the other end of the coaching spectrum and I'll take Knight over that any day. Bob Knight may have been ramrod tough, but he gave a lot more to the game and his players than he took away.
posted by sandskater at 11:39 PM on February 04, 2008
One of the best Super Bowls. Too many "stories within a story" to go into but everything played out in grand fashion. Kudos to both teams for fantastic seasons and hats off to Eli for not letting the naysayers get to him. Now all he needs is a supermodel girlfriend.
posted by sandskater at 01:11 AM on February 04, 2008
Soccer is the "everyman" sport. It's inexpensive, can be played anywhere that has dirt, and you don't have to be a giant or the world's fastest human to excel at it. Even better, after the game you go drink beer. What's not to love?
posted by sandskater at 12:19 AM on February 03, 2008
I must conclude,then, that you are all comfortable with the admitted negative image it portrays of our presence in Iraq. Interesting and sad.
posted by sandskater at 07:18 PM on January 29, 2008
My point was that we use the opinions or assessments of knowledgeable people in forming our own conclusions in a variety of forums. I didn't equate the force of legal opinions with that of a film critic's or a political commentator's,some of you did. I contend that I don't actually have to watch the movie to know what it's about. This apparently is a concept some of you can't get your arms around. To insist that you must see the movie to have an understanding of what it's about is to ignore that you can read and hear. If some of you want to argue that "Redacted" portrays a positive image of our presence in Iraq, good luck. I contend that it doesn't and that it does us harm. Mr. Cuban's participation in making the movie doesn't seem to disturb you. I think that's disturbing.
posted by sandskater at 12:56 AM on January 29, 2008
You can read a synopsis of the movie at Roger Ebert.com. He doesn't condemn or applaued its theme. I arrived at my opinion by familiarizing myself with the theme of the movie and listening to Fox(yes, Bill O'Reilly) and other news agencies and personalities(Glenn Beck, Mary Matalin...). Yes, yerfatma, there are "bad guys" and Hollywood used to help us win wars against them. Now they help the bad guys by making movies that focus on only negative events. Mark Cuban chose to invest in demonizing America. You may not agree with that premise and so be it. You choose your heroes and I'll choose mine.
posted by sandskater at 04:17 PM on January 28, 2008
The Supreme Court only offers its "opinion", but it still seems to carry a bit of influence. Credible sources are often used to build a statement or conviction. That's why a bibliography was invented. Attorneys use expert "opinion" to help formulate a conclusion. The bottom line is the use of credible sources as a substitute for one's personal experience is an accepted practice upon which some of our most venerable institutions are based.
posted by sandskater at 01:36 PM on January 28, 2008
I could read the sport sections, listen to espn, and yet never have seen the Patriots play and still make the "leap of logic" that they're a pretty good team. Some of us can use more than one of our senses.
posted by sandskater at 09:15 AM on January 28, 2008
In the article some argue we use drugs for ailments so why not for baseball. I didn't realize baseball was an ailment.
posted by sandskater at 11:25 PM on January 27, 2008
Weedy- Haven't seen the movie. Have listened to numerous commentators comment on it. Elijahin apparently confirms its negative theme ("that stuff happens"). I don't find two distinct issues here. A frivolous, self-aggrandizing, billionaire joins the "Hollywood pontiffs", bashes one of the few countries willing to take on Islamic extremists, and, now, wants what is as American as apple pie. If baseball ownership doesn't want him, I'd say that's his "just desserts."
posted by sandskater at 12:50 AM on January 26, 2008
I think Cuban blackened his own name by making a movie that denigrated the American servicemen in Iraq.
posted by sandskater at 08:18 AM on January 25, 2008
Maybe Cuban's been "Redacted" by the rest of the owners.
posted by sandskater at 12:29 AM on January 25, 2008
It's a world gone mad! Democrats attacking each other and now black people attacking black people! Must be another "right wing conspiracy"!
posted by sandskater at 12:10 AM on January 25, 2008
An excellent idea that should be extended to our own armed forces as well. Hmmm, How about the Super Bowl?
posted by sandskater at 12:55 AM on January 18, 2008
See. Being booed at a "punt, pass, and kick" event isn't so bad afterall. Your dad could be a Packers fan!
posted by sandskater at 12:41 AM on January 18, 2008
Tiger Woods has taken the high road and let this miscue pass. Sadly we have elements in our society that make a living on race-baiting(Sharpton)and publications that want to follow that example.
posted by sandskater at 01:46 PM on January 17, 2008
"In a fight between David and Goliath, I'll take David." Let's face it, no one's got a "stone" big enough to bring them down. There are no "Davids" out there and, whether you like them or not, the Pats will win the Super Bowl.
posted by sandskater at 01:23 AM on January 14, 2008
Let me help you with this, Prophite, so we can move on to another topic. The Flyers let Brashear go because he's a has-been. They needed youthful thugs like Downie et al. Having refilled their "goon larder", they added some skillful players to deftly skate around the body parts and "eye juice" that litter the ice after their less-evolved teamates have done their best to terminate the opposition. However, there is a caveat to running a roster of ruffians: You should have them sniff their teamates jerseys before the game so they don't maim any more of the "opted fors"
posted by sandskater at 11:53 PM on January 08, 2008
I wonder if Prophite ever played hockey and if he did I hope he stopped. I see a punch that hasn't landed to the head of an opponent who is being held by the official. The thumb easily could have come up (as the video seems to show).I think fighting belongs in hockey, but not by players who cheap shot another when he can't defend himself. Philadelphia seems to want to go back to their roots of "roller derby" hockey and forsake skillful physical hockey for the back alley "muggings" of their past.
posted by sandskater at 12:44 AM on January 08, 2008
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Yerfatma. I know you like "straw" in your arguments so may I suggest you try to stop grasping at it. It was your post that directed me to the term "redskin". I didn't bring it up and please show the posts where I "bring them up every time...." Your sarcasm regarding the liberal bent of public schools is a poor substitue for reality. Oh, wait, you have 100+ years of no actual teaching experience. I'll take my 37 years of actually doing the job, negotiating contracts, doing grievances, being a union member and knowing the philosophies and platforms at the local, state, and national levels to your "hearsay" accreditation. The "midget fag commie" rejoinder was beneath you and you should "reassess" your use of terminology that is hurtful and demeaning to other groups.
Weedy. rcade introduced the idea that the use of the Seminole name was not appropriate for the university. Scroll up and catch up. Weedy& rcade. Scalp hunters, Chief Fullabull, and Sammy Seminole: Salient verbs? Were called and (once) had. Refer to the history lesson and answer your own question (Why did this stuff change?). The Seminoles made it change not by eliminating its use, but by insuring it was used in a manner they deemed respectful. I disagree with your comment "all the liberals are weak shit." Liberals are not "weak". Thanks for the assist, Weedy.
rcade. The Seminoles could buy FSU and make it a "graduation" present. Maybe there's still some of yerfatma's straw left for you to grasp.