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May 06, 2007
Down Goes De La Hoya: "When I was boxing him, I said, 'Damn, it's easy hitting him in the face,'" said Floyd Mayweather Jr. after his split-decision victory over Oscar De La Hoya in one of the most anticipated title fights in years. "How'd he beat all those guys when it's so easy to him in the face?"
I think if Mayweather would have done what he did from rounds nine on, the fight would have been over early. The flurries put together by De La Hoya when he caught Mayweather on the ropes looked very ineffective most of the time. Sometimes it reminded me of a person thats tired of getting bullied then attacks with his eyes closed swinging, hopeing to connect with anything. You call it chicken shit, but Mayweather hit Oscar at numerous angles, as Oscar wildly charged in. I did expect a little more action though.
posted by AFLvet at 11:55 AM on May 06, 2007
Oscar De La Hoya looked downright undisciplined in that ring with his wild flailing. While Floyd Mayweather Jr. tagged Oscar De La Hoya with alot of clean shots to the face.
posted by chaddillac at 12:54 PM on May 06, 2007
Mayweather looked better in the late rounds because Oscar was tired from chasing his little ass around the ring all night. Dethroning champions in such a lame and indecisive manner is bad for the sport and won't win Pretty Boy the fan base that he so badly wants. Move down in weight for everyones sake.
posted by ggermanctl at 01:49 PM on May 06, 2007
If you are the champion and clearly fight the more aggressive fight, the challenger needs to put in a spectacular performance, Mayweather didn't do that; most of his punches landed on De La Hoyas gloves or arms. I think De La Hoya has a right to feel aggrieved. Does anyone believe Mayweather will actually retire?
posted by Fat Buddha at 02:43 PM on May 06, 2007
De la Hoya looked very undisciplined in his flurry attacks, and they didn't seem to do very much. He never looked like he was able to consistently hit Mayweather. Mayweather didn't take any risks, and mainly stayed away from the Golden Boy. The Bautista-Medina fight on the undercard was the best fight of the night, I think.
posted by Bonkers at 03:47 PM on May 06, 2007
I see most of you guys only listen to commentators, and don't have a clue about the game. Although Mayweather didn't press the fight like he should have, did De La Hoya really fight like a champ pressing forward getting smacked up at will. It was like Mayweather was having a sparring session.
posted by AFLvet at 04:06 PM on May 06, 2007
Mayweather played out his chicken shit game plan and won the only way he possibly could. There are quite a few of boxing's beloved figures who put together "chicken shit game plan"s to win titles. Remember Ali's Rope-A-Dope? Sugar Ray Leonard's jab and clinch? If you are the champion and clearly fight the more aggressive fight, the challenger needs to put in a spectacular performance, Mayweather didn't do that; most of his punches landed on De La Hoyas gloves or arms. I think De La Hoya has a right to feel aggrieved. It's not like Mayweather was some club boxer from Bumfuck, Montanta. He already had some titles of his own and is considered one of, if not the best, boxers in professional boxing.
posted by forrestv at 05:13 PM on May 06, 2007
I wouldn't consider the rope a dope chicken shit...it ended in a knock out. "It's not like Mayweather was some club boxer from Bumfuck, Montanta. He already had some titles of his own and is considered one of, if not the best, boxers in professional boxing." But he wasn't the champion at 154 lbs. Its that simple.
posted by ggermanctl at 06:00 PM on May 06, 2007
I stopped caring about De la Hoya after he got his ass kicked by Felix Sturm in 2005 but still got the decision because nobody wanted to screw up the Hopkins-De la Hoya payday (where he got his ass kicked again). In that fight, the little pitty pat punches that he was throwing were pathetic - why do people keep paying to see his fights? In his defense, I would take regular beatings for $20 million too.
posted by sic at 04:05 AM on May 07, 2007
De la Hoya threw over 100 more punches than Mayweather, but landed 85 less. It's going to be difficult to win against any capable opponent with that kind of scattershot style. Mayweather danced away from Oscar's flailing over and over again, and counterpunched Oscar nearly every time on his way out. De la Hoya couldn't land the jab effectively, while Mayweather did, often standing de la Hoya off when he wanted to press an attack. I've heard lots of de la Hoya fans saying that he should have won because he was able to pin Mayweather down and flurry him repeatedly, but that's not the object of the game. Getting Mayweather on the ropes or in the corner doesn't win the fight. Knocking his ass out once you got him there is what you need to do. Marvin Hagler damn sure would have, and often did.
posted by The_Black_Hand at 04:52 AM on May 07, 2007
no doubt
posted by AFLvet at 07:02 AM on May 07, 2007
I really wish I was able to comment on the De La Hoya/Mayweather fight but unfortunately, after 15 minutes after I ordered it, my digital cable blacked out and I wasn't able to see the fight at all (damn Comcast!!). All I know about the fight is that both fighters barely had any bruises on their faces, no one was knocked down and it went the distance. From what's being said, Mayweather will retire but is not against having a rematch with Oscar.
posted by BornIcon at 07:43 AM on May 07, 2007
Fights like this one will ruin both Mayweathers career and boxing as a whole. Mayweather simply worked a flawed points system to defeat the champ. the challenger needs to put in a spectacular performance I wouldn't say it has to be spectacular, but, running backwards for 8 rounds really doesn't make you look like a champion. Personally I think it should have been a draw since neither fighter looked dominant. Perhaps boxing should institute a stalling penalty like wrestling has. That way a fighter can't fight "not to lose" and end up with a win. I don't know about anyone else but I won't be paying for the rematch.
posted by Steel_Town at 10:20 AM on May 07, 2007
I could have sworn Mayweather said he was going to go toe to toe with Oscar, looked like to me, he was running whenever he could. Mayweather should not have won that fight by any means. Mayweather said he is retiring, ya right, but he needs too, cause you can't have the judges in your pockets at all time and have the ref. there helping you out also when you get in a bad situation. It pissed me off when that ref. pushed them apart when Oscar had Mayweather on the ropes, WTF........
posted by jsteelers36 at 01:17 PM on May 07, 2007
De la Hoya threw over 100 more punches than Mayweather, but landed 85 less. I think this stat tells it all. Mayweather landed more jabs and powershots than Oscar, while throwing a lot less. I agree that the fight was pretty damn boring, but Mayweather did win. If the fight is not judged on who hits the other guy more, what is it judged on? I mean, if you don't knock the other guy out, how do you determine who wins? If you didn't watch any of this fight, and judged it based on purely just the stats, you would think that Oscar got his ass kicked and should have left in an ambulance. I too wanted Oscar to win, but he didn't. He didn't get cheated, he simply lost. Mayweather is easy to hate beause of his mouth, but he is a damn good boxer.
posted by yay-yo at 01:32 PM on May 07, 2007
Boxing is Dead I would rather watch fights from the spot ESPN did on "Chess boxing" than the thugs these promoters put in a ring.
posted by tru_spartan at 03:55 PM on May 07, 2007
I don't know what street Pernell.....I mean Floyd Mayweather is from. But that wasn't an ass kickin'. I would think he would want a do over and put some offense into the game plan next time. I always was a Troy Dorsey fan. All action all the time.
posted by 3pounddickey at 05:08 PM on May 07, 2007
Anybody else think Floyd Mayweather Sr. looks like the Predator??????....As far as the fight I am glad I didn't have to pay 54.95 for that shit.
posted by jaclp at 06:45 PM on May 07, 2007
I agree.....bor---ing. Yet another Hopkins/Taylor, Taylor/Wright, Tarver/Johnson mess. Both fighters scared to mix it up for fear of looking bad, all the while....looking bad. What happen to the days of the Clashing of the Titans? Herns/Leonard, Haglar/Leonard, Haglar/Hearns, Chavez/M. Taylor. We got Ward/Gatti and that's it. Note to fighters: IT'S NOT A CHESS MATCH, it's a fight. 20-40 million for that? Garbage, plain and simple. Floyd better retire before he runs into a wall named Ricky Hatton.
posted by Bishop at 12:50 AM on May 08, 2007
Bishop, I actually went back and chopped my post all up, because after I mentioned Hagler, I went into a long diatribe about Mancini, Leonard, Hearns, Bramble, Pryor, Arguello, and some of the other fighters I grew up watching, and how these punk kids today just can't compare, and get off my goddamn lawn! Then I thought better of it.
posted by The_Black_Hand at 05:14 AM on May 08, 2007
What happen to the days of the Clashing of the Titans? From what I've heard, they're making a remake of the '81 cult classic Clash of the Titans....oh, you mean boxers, sorry! Those days are long, gone. Boxers don't want to fight anymore, they'll throw a few jabs, dance around and wait to win by points. These guys aren't even close to being the warriors of the past that'll stand toe to toe and whoever gets knocked out, loses. Just about every fighter wants to have a perfect record and thinks they have a legacy to uphold while not living up to the hype. I've said it before and I'll say it again, MMA (UFC, Pride and K-1) has taken over the fighting business and that's where the future of fighting lies.
posted by BornIcon at 07:04 AM on May 08, 2007
Boring fight, not very many clean punches landed by either fighter. Mayweather played out his chicken shit game plan and won the only way he possibly could. He needs to move down in weight and provide some more entertaining fights. Possibly against Cotto, Hatton, Mosely, Paul Williams, and I'd love to see him destroy the wildly overrated Antonio Margarito.