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February 22, 2006
Team USA Iced: There will be no miracle for Team USA. The U.S. is out of the Olympics after a 4-3 loss to Finland in the quarters. The ugly American totals: Six games, one victory, one quick exit, no medal.
posted by wingnut4life to other at 01:03 PM - 25 comments
Well, Weedy (and most of us) was right on this one.
posted by qbert72 at 01:23 PM on February 22, 2006
wingnut, it absolutely depends what substance he used. The above material appears to be accurate; compare to the official 2006 Prohibited List, Substances and Methods Prohibited In-Competition. The most common narcotic painkiller -- codeine -- is not prohibited. Morphine or methadone would be.
posted by Amateur at 01:24 PM on February 22, 2006
The authorities would have to bring the fact he took something up with his team, and then request an inquiry. If indeed he took a substance that was banned or prohibited, it would still not wash out the loss by the US team, which this year was less a team and more a group of highly paid underachievers that could not score a goal against a rookie Mite goaltender. Face it, Modano is a player more concerned with how he will look to a hot babe than how well he does with a puck on the ice. Trying to organize a group like this is in itself an exercise in futility, unless you are Scotty Bowman.
posted by mrhockey at 01:29 PM on February 22, 2006
Thanks, Amateur. Do we have any NBC execs or Olympic officials as members? Sure would like to know what he was poppin'.
posted by wingnut4life at 01:31 PM on February 22, 2006
How about being gracious in defeat, mrhockey? Do you really have to slam the Finns in order to state one more time your tired point that Lake Placid was the be-all-end-all of hockey? The Finns (a collection of NHLers too) are playing a flawless tournament so far. Maybe they actually won on merit. How about that? I'll give you that you're dishing the dirt fairly, though. What's with the gratuitous Modano bashing?
posted by qbert72 at 01:38 PM on February 22, 2006
Do we have any NBC execs or Olympic officials as members? Sorry, I don't have that kind of pull. If Salo was found to have taken a banned substance, there is precedent for booting the whole team from the Olympic tournament. The USA would then move on to the semifinals (as undeserving as they have been). The odds of that are pretty long, though.
posted by Amateur at 01:40 PM on February 22, 2006
Maybe the Finns have been secretly training for months in a secret underground fortress. Also, I think the idea that Sami Salo was popping something banned is not even worth debating. Too many arguments against.
posted by DrJohnEvans at 01:44 PM on February 22, 2006
Tough loss... I had them slated for a Bronze but lets face it, they got beat by a Finnish team that came to play this entire tourney. It's been a fantastic Olympic Hockey Tournament with tons of surprises. Slovakia, Swiwterland and an 6-0 Finnish Team. Canada hasn't played up to their potential, lets hope they don't have an early exit like Team USA. I'm disappointed the Locker Room Thread isn't working right now. rcade you on that?
posted by skydivedad at 01:45 PM on February 22, 2006
I'm jonesing for the Locker Room. Brodeur looks hot. Couple of good saves on Ovechkin and Kovalchuk to start the game. That'll teach 'em!
posted by qbert72 at 01:47 PM on February 22, 2006
Finns don't need pain killers (except in a party sense), they've got something much more effective, "Sisu".
posted by NoMich at 01:48 PM on February 22, 2006
Yeah, I've had a comment lined up and ready to post for hours. It's pretty obsolete by now, but I'm gonna post it just on principle.
posted by DrJohnEvans at 01:48 PM on February 22, 2006
Man, those Russians know how to take good wrist shots. Brodeur is working that glove. Work it, baby. Sorry to derail. Stop me when you've had it. We need group chat for Game Time. Anyone want to fork some money for Campfire? I'm poor.
posted by qbert72 at 01:52 PM on February 22, 2006
i was starting to worry that everyone in the locker room got eaten by bears.
posted by goddam at 01:52 PM on February 22, 2006
DON'T SAY BEARS! Looks like a parade to the penalty box so far?
posted by Amateur at 01:55 PM on February 22, 2006
Way ahead of you, q. Max 4 people though.
posted by DrJohnEvans at 01:57 PM on February 22, 2006
PP CAN Could Canadian pressure lead to a goal?
posted by skydivedad at 01:59 PM on February 22, 2006
Yeah, four people. Not very chatterific, is it?
posted by NoMich at 02:02 PM on February 22, 2006
We're trying to upgrade Campfire right now. We'll keep you posted. Edit: upgraded by the good Dr. See ya there!
posted by qbert72 at 02:06 PM on February 22, 2006
Upgraded to 10 people. We can go higher if there's more interest.
posted by DrJohnEvans at 02:07 PM on February 22, 2006
Can't take it... Nerves are shot... Can anyone on Canada manage to, you know, score a fucking goal!?!?!
posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 02:19 PM on February 22, 2006
First I have to come to work today, then I found out I set the VCR to record the wrong game. I go on break to find the vending machine is out of order and I can't get my honey bun fix. The locker room goes on the fritz and I don't get the gametime commentary. I must have done something horrible in a previous life.
posted by njsk8r20 at 02:27 PM on February 22, 2006
Well I'm not sure about the rest of you but I am suprised that the American hockey team even made it to the Olympics and didn't lose before they got there (I know that's not possible). The team that was put together couldn't even beat the Red Wings, lets face it they probably couldn't beat the high school team here in my home town. I have seen better rag tag teams put together by soccer moms.
posted by stephenmccstudent at 11:27 PM on February 23, 2006
gbert, where the hell do you get 'Finn bashing' from what I said? My points were a US 'team' critique alone. I said nothing about the Finns. Get your head out of it's position. As far as the 'gratuitous Modano bashing', see elsewhere in this blog. Modano pissed and moaned about his teammates and the coaches, but accepted no blame himself for his 'no scoring' approach to the Olympics. He was his own best example of where the 'team' was not so great.
posted by mrhockey at 07:38 AM on February 24, 2006
mrhockey: could not score a goal against a rookie Mite goaltender Not sure I understand what Mite means (English is not my first language), but this seems unnecessary. Niittymaki has 2 GA in the whole tournament before the US game. So your guys actually scored three on the hottest goalie. Gotta give credit where credit is due if you want to be credible.
posted by qbert72 at 08:51 AM on February 24, 2006
I knew that this would happen. No surprise there. But what I want to know is what kind of painkiller Finland's Sami Salo was taking on the bench in the second period? He took it after there was a collision with himself and teammate Ville Peltonen. Salo hit the ice hard and it looked like he messed his shoulder up pretty good. When Salo went to the bench, the camera caught (I think) the coach or (I think) a trainer hand Salo a pill and he gulped it down right there on the bench. Is that legal? Source: CBC Sports Online Narcotic analgesics WHAT ARE THEY? Narcotic analgesics usually take the form of painkillers that act on the brain and spinal cord to treat pain associated with painful stimuli. EXAMPLES buprenorphine, dextromoramide, heroin, morphine, pethidine WHY THEY ARE BANNED Narcotic analgesics could be used to reduce or eliminate the pain felt from an injury or illness. They could also be used to help an athlete train harder and for a longer period of time. The danger in this is that the drug could merely be masking the pain. As a result, athletes may have a false sense of security, and by continuing to train and compete, risk further health problems. WHY ATHLETES USE THEM To help reduce or eliminate the pain from a nagging injury, allowing them to continue in their training. Narcotic analgesics may also reduce anxiety, which may artificially enhance an athlete's performance. TYPE OF PROHIBITION In-competition EXCEPTIONS codeine, dextromethorphan, dextropropoxyphene, dihydrocodeine, diphenoxylate, ethylmorphine, pholcodine, propoxyphene, and tramadol If anyone knows the rules and if this is legal, could you please let me know? Thanks.