11/05/24
September 07, 2005
Rookie apologizes, claims postive steroid test is a mistake: Michael Morse admits to taking illegal steroids in November of 2003 to help recover from an injury, fearing his career was over had he not recovered somehow. In May and July of the 2004 minor league season he tested positive, and was punished and suspended. The July test Morse states were from remnants in his system stating that he had stopped taking them. He only used them that one time, he states. Now he has become the ninth major league player to have a 10 day suspension handed down from the league for testing positive for steroids. Morse Claims this positive test is also from the remnants. The arbitration panel has agreed to some level with him on that. ( the article was a little gray on this part) Despite that Morse states he has scientific evidence that supports he did not take steroids again, these positive results are from remnants, but he still gets 10 days off, and a stain on his rookie year!
But what happens if Morses' claims are true, and this is just the remnants showing up in these tests? Where does this end for this kid, does he get banned from baseball eventually? Will these remnants eventually work through his system? He screwed up, no doubt, he admits that. He took his punishment, both times. Now a third!! I am pretty ignorant when it comes to how long steroids and these things stay in the body, I have never had to deal with anything like that. It just seems to me like the kid is telling the truth, has the evidence top back it up, but has nowhere to go with it. I could be wrong, maybe naive to believe him, but what if he is being truthful?
posted by jojomfd1 at 07:27 PM on September 07, 2005
Who gives a dam about these stupid athletes? Theyre only hurting themselves by taking steroids. I know people who have taken steroids- and half of them are in wheelchairs now- 25 years later. Rookies are still adults and should know better than to get pumped up. I mean what the hell? Is playing baseball for a living so stressful?
posted by redsoxrgay at 08:35 PM on September 07, 2005
Dum, Da, Dum Dum Dum.... Just don't cheat (ever) and you'll have no problems. They thought they could fool everyone and now MLB has thier eyes open for the first time ever. Ban em' all.
posted by steasley at 08:56 PM on September 07, 2005
It doesn't sound to me like he is trying to fool anyone. He has admitted to taking them, when he took them, and why. That doesn't make it right by any means, I am not trying to say it does. The questions are, how long do the remnants stay in the body? How may times is he going to be punished for the same offense, "I am troubled that I will be suspended for the third time despite the fact that the scientific evidence supports that I kept my promise that I would never use steroids again," ?
posted by jojomfd1 at 09:05 PM on September 07, 2005
prior steroid use = rookie = sacraficial lamb
posted by panteeze at 09:25 PM on September 07, 2005
This is really a non-story. Until the testing has "teeth", we will never know the true extent of usage!
posted by daddisamm at 11:29 PM on September 07, 2005
not sure exactly what you mean daddisamm
posted by jojomfd1 at 11:54 PM on September 07, 2005
During yesterday's Brewers game, Bob Uecker was talking about this. On Morse's claim that he'd only taken steroids the one time, in 2003: "See how long these things stay with you, kids? My shoes don't even last that long!"
posted by rocketman at 08:10 AM on September 08, 2005
This rookie is really reaching, because unlike weed smoking, which can linger in your fat cells for up to 90 days, when your injecting steroids and then stop, 30 to 60 days would be the max. Unless your really heavy and then maybe longer. So how many baseball players are really heavy.
posted by pasdpildoc at 08:49 AM on September 08, 2005
OMG another innocent victim. It's just amazing tome that every person tested postive this year it was a mistake. The testing lab must be the most imcompentent people in the world.
posted by scottypup at 09:05 AM on September 08, 2005
If this guy is telling the truth, he got a raw deal. Sure, he took steroids in 2003 and was wrong for doing it in the first place. But if the guy has been drug-free since then and has been through the testing program and served his penalty, he should not have to serve additional suspensions just because the drug stays in your system for that long. If scientists say that he is still receiving physical enhancement from the steroid he took in 2003 then I think he should be penalized. However, if the drug is no longer affecting his body he should not be penalized three times for one offense.
posted by erkno11 at 09:18 AM on September 08, 2005
but, if the drugs stay in your system for that long, shouldn't we be seeing a lot more positive tests? surely there were others that used in 2003 and 2004. how come there aren't remnants in their systems as well?
posted by goddam at 10:18 AM on September 08, 2005
www.steroidtips.com Has decent info on how long this crap is detectable. (Which may explain why BB has been taking so long to get back on the field.)
posted by cardsfan at 10:18 AM on September 08, 2005
Hey the system isn't perfect, and he has a chance to recover from it - but he did cheat, and he's paying for it. I don't think one can vilify Palmeiro on one hand and pity this guy on the other without being a bit of a hypocrite.
posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 10:27 AM on September 08, 2005
I am not vilifing anyone here, just asking some questions, as to how long these things last in the system, and if they are still the same ones from 2003 how many times does he get suspended for the same 1 time use?
posted by jojomfd1 at 11:57 AM on September 08, 2005
Cheaters suck!!! he still used them when the whole steriod thing was going on. If your going to cheat ya' gotta be smarter than that
posted by ELWAY_FAN at 01:03 PM on September 08, 2005
Well...it looks like another bites the dust before he even gets out of the gate....sad