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June 03, 2004
Giants sign Kurt Warner.: It's a two-year deal (voidable after the first year) which could be worth more than $8 million if Warner achieves all of his incentives. How much playing time do you think Warner will get and how do you think things will turn out for him, Eli Manning and the rest of the Giants?
posted by Stan Fields to football at 12:07 PM - 13 comments
I was never a Warner fan and thought his success was fluky but this is a big upgrade over Collins, who I couldn't stand watching. If the O Line improves this could be an excellent year for the Giants. I was not pleased at the thought of a rookie QB starting, this is a great solution.
posted by Bernreuther at 01:31 PM on June 03, 2004
I wonder if he's really recovered from the hand problems. I think the key is how well Manning shows during training camp before the first exhibition game, as I don't see Coughlin making a change after that point until Warner (if he is picked) f's up the first half of the season.
posted by billsaysthis at 03:07 PM on June 03, 2004
No matter what, Warner had a good run. Not bad for an Arena Football guy. I'm betting Eli ends up being their QB by the end of the season, though.
posted by Samsonov14 at 03:27 PM on June 03, 2004
I wouldn't be so quick to say Warner is definitely going to play. The Giants will say Manning is their starter all the way but if he struggles preseason or early on Warner will get his chance, but only if he wins. The strategy of losing with Manning is much more sound. Unfortunately the Giants need to win and be at least 8-8 to feel like trading next year's first was worth it. I'm glad they have the Warner plan available now.
posted by YukonGold at 06:54 PM on June 03, 2004
He'll do as well as GOD wants him to. That's what I'd expect him to say, anyway..
posted by blarp at 10:37 PM on June 03, 2004
I'll wager that he's going to start, and he's going to do well (leaving Manning with little to no playing time). Check out the Giant's offensive line sometime. I wager he'll get sacked a lot.
posted by Mike McD at 06:34 AM on June 04, 2004
I think this is a big time pick up for the G-men. I don't know much about their squad this year, if they are serious contenders or not. But adding Warner is potentially huge. No QB goes 16 games anymore. Either Warner starts the season and Manning gets extra weeks to learn or Eli starts and doesn't last long and Warner will do a good job cleaning up. IF the Giants WERE only a QB away, then I'd say they are in a strong position now.
posted by vito90 at 09:06 AM on June 04, 2004
Great pick-up for the Giants. As someone from the STL area who has seen a lot of Warner, I don't think he's done. A quarterback's skills don't erode that quickly, and he'll give Manning time to develop without the NY media hounding him. Still, we're happy around here — mainly because it means Brenda won't be calling in and mouthing off on our sports radio talk shows.
posted by wfrazerjr at 09:40 AM on June 04, 2004
No QB goes 16 games anymore Not sure I take your meaning.
posted by yerfatma at 10:23 AM on June 04, 2004
yerfatma, Gus Frerotte was Minnesota's QB last year?
posted by Mike McD at 01:26 PM on June 04, 2004
I do not think it means what you think it means Inigo Montoya -Princess Bride
posted by Mike McD at 01:29 PM on June 04, 2004
I never think it's a good idea to start a rookie quarterback during his rookie year, although I am sure that are a smattering of successful counterexamples. I kind of like the Bill Parcells approach of putting the highly touted rookie in the 3 slot, and make him carry the clipboard all year. I just think NFL offensive and defensive schemes are far too complex and it takes at least a year to really understand what it takes to succeed at that level. Kurt Warner is a guy that has been winner in the past, and could be a good teacher to Manning.
posted by psmealey at 08:41 AM on June 10, 2004
I'll wager that he's going to start, and he's going to do well (leaving Manning with little to no playing time). Warner may be thinking that he has alot to prove, particularly after all the trash talk about him during the off season. If that's true, he's going to hit the ground running. The Giants are a better team now than they were last year, so I would hope it's a better year for them.