December 14, 2014

SportsFilter: The Sunday Huddle:

A place to discuss the sports stories that aren't making news, share links that aren't quite front-page material, and diagram plays on your hand. Remember to count to five Mississippi before commenting in anger.

posted by huddle to general at 06:00 AM - 13 comments

Sid's got the mumps, 13th NHL'er this season

posted by tommybiden at 12:09 PM on December 14, 2014

Sid's got the mumps, 13th NHL'er this season

This could put a dent into the crop of future NHLers among the sons of current NHL players. One of the complications of mumps among adult and teen age males is "orchitis" which can lead to sterility. Is the MMR vaccination not done outside the US?

posted by Howard_T at 01:58 PM on December 14, 2014

Ottawa is about an 8 hour drive from Cleveland. Manziel might as well load up and hit the highway before winter sets in.

posted by beaverboard at 04:41 PM on December 14, 2014

Is the MMR vaccination not done outside the US?

MMR vaccination is done at 12 months and again at 18 months (no later than before going to public school (4-6 years old)) in Canada.

Of course, maybe during Crosby's formative years it might not have been mandatory (or maybe his family skipped it anyways because of some reason).

posted by grum@work at 10:55 PM on December 14, 2014

Ottawa is about an 8 hour drive from Cleveland. Manziel might as well load up and hit the highway before winter sets in.

1. Manziel has played 1 NFL game in an offense that hasn't looked like it was even partly functional since the Bernie Kosar days (when it was partly functional).

2. The CFL is a quarterback league, much more so than the NFL. QBs who can't cut it in the NFL are even less capable of playing in the CFL.

posted by cixelsyd at 09:48 AM on December 15, 2014

Are you implying that the CFL has better quarterbacks than the NFL?

posted by bender at 09:57 AM on December 15, 2014

Certainly not.

I'm implying that the prevailing thought that QBs who don't have the passing skills to play in the NFL are hot commodities up here - nothing could be further from reality.

posted by cixelsyd at 10:15 AM on December 15, 2014

Actually, the CFL is better at exposing QBs that have flaws, because they are a much more pass-oriented league than the NFL. A good QB in the NFL can be a great QB in the CFL. A bad QB in the NFL can be a TERRIBLE QB in the CFL.

What Manziel might be able to do in the CFL is work on his passing while still being able to use his scrambling nature to be successful. This is the formula that helped Doug Flutie become the greatest quarterback in CFL history.

I think Manziel might be best suited for a stint in the CFL to gain more confidence. The wider/deeper field and the less talented defenses might be enough to give him time to work on his mechanics/intuition.

The Hamilton Tiger-Cats have Manziel's "negotiating rights", so they'd get first crack at him if he were to come up north. They should probably hang on to those rights for another season or two.

If he were to salvage his career and turn into the next Jeff Garcia, that's not a bad future.

posted by grum@work at 10:16 AM on December 15, 2014

This is the formula that helped Doug Flutie become ONE OF the greatest quarterbacks in CFL history

Anthony Calvillo is the greatest QB the CFL has ever seen. Like Flutie, Garcia and others he was not highly regarded at the NFL draft because he was considered too small. He was mobile, a deadly accurate passer, and extremely smart - all qualities required of a successful CFL QB.

posted by cixelsyd at 10:35 AM on December 15, 2014

Isn't it premature to start talking CFL? Manziel is going to be the starter next year in Cleveland. He needs an entire season of terrible play under his belt, maybe two, before he might be invited to succeed elsewhere.

posted by rcade at 11:26 AM on December 15, 2014

Isn't it premature to start talking CFL? Manziel is going to be the starter next year in Cleveland. He needs an entire season of terrible play under his belt, maybe two, before he might be invited to succeed elsewhere.

But I want to speculate about the future NOW!

*pout*

posted by grum@work at 11:45 AM on December 15, 2014

This is the formula that helped Doug Flutie become ONE OF the greatest quarterbacks in CFL history

Anthony Calvillo is the greatest QB the CFL has ever seen.

This is going to be one of those "Tastes great!" "Less filling!" kind of arguments. I would have no problem with anyone listing either of them as "the greatest" on their list.

Calvillo has the length of career on his side (20 seasons, all of the "most X in a career" records), I think Flutie has the peak of career on his side (6 MVP awards in 8 seasons).

To me, it's like comparing Ray Bourque to Bobby Orr.

posted by grum@work at 11:54 AM on December 15, 2014

Deadspin has a good post on the mumps reappearance. And here I was feeling smart because I had an MMR booster at age 18.

posted by yerfatma at 02:44 PM on December 15, 2014

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