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July 24, 2003
What's wrong with Big Dog? : I've watched Glen Robinson for nine years now and I like the way he plays. He's got a lethal mid range game, the kind of game announcers are always lamenting has dissappeared from the NBA. He shoots free throws well, he gets a couple of boards, and he's good for a block every once in a while. But why doesn't he seem to help his teams? This is a guy who was drafted before J. Kidd and G. Hill. Has he turned out to be a better pick than Grant Hill?
posted by Mike McD to basketball at 03:05 PM - 11 comments
I don't think it's that Robinson hasn't been a good player, I think it's much more that he hasn't been as good as anticipated. He had a lot of hype coming out of college but he doesn't have the ability to carry a team on his own. He's a good player, but not a franchise player. As far as the question of versus Hill goes, he's intrinsically better if he plays. But a look at the stats can help too. Career Stats: Grant Hill: 482 Games, 21 PPG, .475 FG%, 7.8 REB, .257 3P%, 6 AST Big Dog: 637 Games, 21 PPG, .460 FG%, 6.2 REB, .340 3P%, 2.8 AST. Not a huge difference between the two. Grant Hill had the nice guy image and lots of endorsements which, sadly enough, gets you more credit as a good player in the minds of the fans. Interesting thoughts, Mike.
posted by Ufez Jones at 03:23 PM on July 24, 2003
He always struck me as a guy who wanted the money of a superstar without the responsibility. He's never been particularly clutch (save college) and gets so jump-shot happy when he could eat folk alive posting up at the 3 spot. I think though that he could work well in Philly - no question that A.I. takes all the 4th Q shots there - and he's a big upgrade from Derrick Coleman, who also will be around, apparently. Yes, he is a better pick than Grant Hill - now. If Detroit had a competent medical staff, he wouldn't be allowed to wash Hill's jock. With his tongue. Question to the floor - how do I post links?
posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 03:25 PM on July 24, 2003
I've never liked the Big Dog but I can't really say why. I think it has to do with the fact that I don't like guys coming into the league and getting $75 million dollar contracts before they ever play a single NBA game. If I got $75 million as my next signing bonus though, I wouldn't begrudge him his money. Anyway, he'll never, ever win a championship. Yes he was a better pick than Grant Hill, but then again so is Speedy Claxton.
posted by vito90 at 03:26 PM on July 24, 2003
Robinson is allergic to playing defense. That may have something to do with it.
posted by trox at 03:41 PM on July 24, 2003
How do you think Robinson will work out in Philly? Will he help them or will Philly remain the same?
posted by Mike McD at 03:57 PM on July 24, 2003
Question to the floor - how do I post links? To the comment section? Just use usual html stuff: [a href="http://www.thelink.com]Cool site![/a] replace [] with <> (I assume if this doesn't work that you might be using a Mac, in which case I know there were some problems with Mac users posting links in the comments section.) As for posting to the front page, go here.
posted by grum@work at 04:04 PM on July 24, 2003
Weedy: shortcut is to highlight the link text, press CTRL+A to get a little dialog box, type or paste in the URL, and hit ENTER. Robinson, Hill, it don't matter, both are getting rich and neither will get a ring.
posted by billsaysthis at 04:31 PM on July 24, 2003
The Sixers aren't worried about Robinson's defensive lapses because they're planning on playing more of a team defense next year? Isn't one of his issues that he's not really a team guy? Even when the Bucks were having some success it seemed like he, Cassell and Allen were on different planets. This an upgrade, but not a solution.
posted by kloeprich at 05:42 PM on July 24, 2003
Robinson is better than Hill at least from a value standpoint. Hill has cost the Magic $29,716 per minute of play. Put me in coach! For one minute! I'd earn that money.
posted by gspm at 01:08 AM on July 25, 2003
Thanks, y'all.
posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 11:03 AM on July 25, 2003
Should be an interesting experiment in the city that loves you back. I'll be real curious to see if AI and the Big Dog share that same love by season's end. The only thing that really concerns me in regard to Robinson is the same thing that worried me in Van Horn -- his lack of regard to play solid defense. According to Ayers in last night's presser on CSN, he assured the media it would not be an issue because the coming season's defense will depend more on the team than the single player. Personally, I don't buy that at all when it comes to how badly Robinson defends the floor, but hey, prove me wrong. Then again, does it really matter what Ayers thinks? Stick any coach in there -- we all know who is guiding this ship. I have a feeling it's not going to matter what happens this season anyway -- the city will continue its countdown to the Mo Cheeks coaching era in '04-'05.