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October 13, 2010
Why Colorado Switched to the PAC-10: USA Today offers a nice cogent explanation of why the Colorado Buffaloes moved from the Big 12 to the PAC-10: Colorado's $47.4 million athletic budget is competitive with a majority of league members (they were nearly three times smaller than Texas), a potential Pac-10 TV network could double their conference revenue and more than 35,000 Colorado alumni live in the current Pac-10 states, compared with 11,000 in Big 12 states outside of Colorado. "This will do us a great deal of good," university president Bruce Benson said.
The one thing that stood out to me from that article was:
It costs more then $20K to go to the University of Colorado if you're from out of state? Why the hell would anyone go there?
posted by wfrazerjr at 12:42 PM on October 13, 2010
Have you been to Boulder, CO? It's BEAUTIFUL.
Oh, and it helps when mommy & daddy pay for it.
posted by jmd82 at 01:46 PM on October 13, 2010
It costs more then $20K to go to the University of Colorado if you're from out of state? Why the hell would anyone go there?
First, it costs $20K more to go to Colorado, if you are from out of state. It's probably about $35K a year to go there.
Second, that's not outside the norm for out of state tuition - it's on the high end, yes - but the University of Texas charges more and the University of Georgia is about the same for out of state students.
Have you been to Boulder, CO? It's BEAUTIFUL.
Oh, and it helps when mommy & daddy pay for it.
Amen.
posted by MrNix67 at 02:23 PM on October 13, 2010
$35K!? Per year? To get a liberal arts undergraduate degree!?... It's not worth it! Mine cost that as well, but with room and board for all 4 years and even a bit leftover for a modest cocaine habit.
It and $2.50 got me a cup of coffee and a ride on the bus. What's your's made of? Gold? Platinum? Golatinum? Is it tied with an exquisite Rolex timepiece? What the fuck does Oyster Essex mean anyway? And so forth...
posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 06:23 PM on October 13, 2010
Tuition for my kid (out of state) at Penn State is $28,680. Had he stayed in state at UNH, it would have cost about half that. As far as I'm concerned, Penn State's a bargain for the education he's getting.
Now, what were we talking about with Colorado and the PAC-10?
posted by Howard_T at 08:38 PM on October 13, 2010
According to the University of Colorado web site, it costs around $6K a year if you live in state, not counting room and board.
So I ask again, more clearly this time -- what the hell is at UC that is worth $20K more to go there from out of state? I know it's pretty ... but that's $80K worth of pretty over four years.
Or $140K if you're on the Blutarski schedule.)
posted by wfrazerjr at 10:14 PM on October 13, 2010
It means that out of state students pay even more of Dan Hawkins' salary than in-state students do.
I haven't seen where that's a good investment, regardless of which payment level you're at.
posted by beaverboard at 10:53 PM on October 13, 2010
One of the things that amazed me during the movements and shifts of the college programs this offseason is that the basic justification behind all of them was money, beyond anything else. Not that I don't understand or agree with the importance of money, but for as much as the NCAA harps about college athletics being solely about amateurs and not about profit, the schools themselves never couched this in any other terms.
posted by Bonkers at 08:17 AM on October 14, 2010
... that's $80K worth of pretty over four years.
I think you can establish residency after two years.
posted by rcade at 09:45 AM on October 14, 2010
... for as much as the NCAA harps about college athletics being solely about amateurs and not about profit, the schools themselves never couched this in any other terms.
RANT BEGINS - That's why I can't stand the NCAA, they complain and attempt to put themselves on the moral high ground when it comes to the student athlete and how the evil leagues (NFL & NBA) won't stop kids leaving early and damaging the college game. But want us to look away when blatant money grabs like Colorado leaving the Big XII, or Texas bullying their way with the rest of the conference, is happening. - RANT OVER
I think this is a good move for Colorado, the Pac-10 (or 12), always seemed like a better fit for them, since many of their kids (in football & basketball) come from the west coast. Plus the economics, as laid out in the article, seem to match as well. I'll miss watching Nebraska-Colorado football games, hopefully I can look forward to some early season Big-10 vs Pac-10 Nebraska-Colorado matchups, to keep that rivalry alive.
posted by MrNix67 at 02:07 PM on October 14, 2010
It was a good move. I'm an A&M alum and we all know that the Big XII (-2) is a sinking ship. It's only a matter of time before Texas goes independent and the rest of us scurry into other conferences like rats.
Can't say I'll miss our away games in Boulder. They always seem to give us fits.