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August 19, 2010
Just heard about this about Clemens and all I could come up with is that he shouldn't have lied.
By the way, what's up with the headline fatty?
If the case is handled the same way it was for Barry Bonds, Clemens better be ready for trial...in 2015.
Clemens lied to Congress while Bonds admitted that if he took steriods, he unknowingly did so but that wasn't to Congress.
posted by BornIcon at 02:14 PM on August 19, 2010
posted by yerfatma at 02:43 PM on August 19, 2010
Link to the dokument. I've perused, but I am kurious about what there evidence is.
I kan't stop fatty.
posted by bperk at 02:44 PM on August 19, 2010
By the way, what's up with the headline fatty?
Klemens named all of his kids with names starting with "K" because he is a strikeout machine. No word if Koby, Kory, Kacy, and Kody will go visit their old man in the klink if he is konvikted.
posted by holden at 02:46 PM on August 19, 2010
Poor Roger Clemens. He'll need to procreate 1,038 more times if he wants to have as many Ks as Nolan Ryan.
posted by cl at 03:05 PM on August 19, 2010
There is no new evidence in the indiktment, so it's no fun at all. I don't know if they have something besides the Mitchell report and McNamee, but nothing is mentioned.
posted by bperk at 03:13 PM on August 19, 2010
I just read this here in Houston . Good luck Rocket and thanks for the memories (just not all the memories were memorable)
posted by texpat at 03:49 PM on August 19, 2010
If he gets convicted, it will add one more possibility to the breathless "what uniform will he go into the HOF with?" discussion.
An all-orange one piece.
posted by beaverboard at 04:49 PM on August 19, 2010
Lesson to kids: lie and you could find yourself in quite a konundrum.
He's still as confident as ever on twitter:
Cool. Ram into 2 people in Hou. Have the same!
Oops, wrong one:
I never took HGH or Steroids. And I did not lie to Congress. I look forward to challenging the Governments.
Good luck with the governments rocket.
posted by justgary at 05:15 PM on August 19, 2010
With those child-bearing hips, he should be right popular in prison.
posted by The_Black_Hand at 05:36 PM on August 19, 2010
I think if I am ever asked a question by the feds, I will immediately take the 5th (probably after drinking a 5th). Do they ever pursue someone for a real crime (yes, I know perjury is a real crime)? Instead, they go after them for lying about a crime. Martha Stewart, Blago, Bonds, Clemens, probably a number of others that I can't think of right offhand.
posted by graymatters at 07:03 PM on August 19, 2010
What's so krazy about this kase is that Kongress didn't even ask him to tesitfy. They only wanted him to meet with a kommittee. Klemens, for whatever reason, demanded to testify. Guess he got more more than he bargained for.
posted by dviking at 07:16 PM on August 19, 2010
I think Clemens is convinced he can sign a few autographs, throw a few heaters, tell a few jokes and they'll acquit him and throw him a parade. He's not just guilty, he's nucking futs.
posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 08:44 PM on August 19, 2010
He's not just guilty, he's nucking futs.
Great Dickie Roberts reference!
posted by BornIcon at 08:05 AM on August 20, 2010
I'm of such mixed feelings on this. On the one hand, the Federal Government stepping in to "investigate" steroid abuse and slapping a few guys with perjury charges because they've got nothing else is far more embarrassing to the country than steroids are to the game.
On the other hand, dviking is absolutely right. Clemens was not asked to testify- he demanded it. Be careful what you ask for.
posted by MKUltra at 11:01 AM on August 20, 2010
I find this amusing. Clemens is bring indicted for lying to the biggewst bunch of liars in this country. Talk about poetic justice....Congress in MHO shouldn't be involved in this in any case.
posted by wildbill1 at 12:06 PM on August 20, 2010
Congress in MHO shouldn't be involved in this in any case
You're correct that Congress shouldn't be involved but Clemens volunteered to testify in front of Congress. He wasn't supoenaed as a witness, he chose to go to Capital Hill and they apparently didn't believe him. This is his own doing, talk about self infliction.
posted by BornIcon at 01:33 PM on August 20, 2010
Of course, Bonds also declined, but he is also facing perjury charges and he got tons of criticism for his decision not to testify. It wasn't so simple as just don't do testify. And, it wasn't so simple as don't lie. Clemens is being indicted because he, like Bonds, is the biggest star of the bunch. How much investigation did Palmeiro face after he failed a drug test soon after failing his drug test? This isn't just about Clemens mistake (if he lied), it's also about selective prosecution.
posted by bperk at 05:08 PM on August 20, 2010
I think Clemens is convinced he can sign a few autographs, throw a few heaters, tell a few jokes and they'll acquit him and throw him a parade.
Which was his plan before his first meeting with congress. He practically had a meet and greet with members before he appeared.
Clemens will never come clean. His legacy is too important to him. If he's found not guilty he'll claim that proves his innocence. If he goes to jail he'll claim it proves his innocence. Who goes to jail for a lie?
This isn't just about Clemens mistake (if he lied), it's also about selective prosecution.
Palmeiro vanished from the media, as did McGwire. Clemens' ego and continued effort to fight this has a large part to do with his indictment. There's no way he should be in this position.
Of course, maybe he's telling the truth and this is a miscarriage of justice (as you said, 'if'). But I'll believe O.J. was actually looking for the killers after his acquittal before believing Clemens is capable of telling the truth.
posted by justgary at 05:21 PM on August 20, 2010
If the case is handled the same way it was for Barry Bonds, Clemens better be ready for trial...in 2015.