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February 17, 2007
Auction/Keeper Baseball League - Redux: Anyone who remembers last year's saga knows that the league didn't happen due to a little thing call child birth on draft day. A list of the people who signed up last year is inside and all of those folks have first opportunity to try giving it another shot.
i'd love in on this.
posted by dfleming at 08:16 PM on February 17, 2007
I'm tired of H2H fantasy baseball. Auction/keeper sounds more difficult. I'll take my place on the waiting list. Thank you, come again!
posted by forrestv at 09:47 PM on February 17, 2007
I'm in if you'll have me. I love keeper leagues, and if I'm in here, I'm out in the other league to open a spot for someone over there.
posted by wfrazerjr at 10:08 PM on February 17, 2007
Yeah, I'm in. Will you post the rules again? Are we going to do AL-only? I'd also drop out of the other one to open up a spot for someone else.
posted by bperk at 08:40 AM on February 18, 2007
Definitely post the rules again, please?
posted by jerseygirl at 09:23 AM on February 18, 2007
I'll dig them up and make a google doc. Last year we said AL-only, I've done a lot more research so we might think about going mixed, I wasn't confident we could do that last year. I've been reaching out to some other bloggers for more advice. Definitely want to refine what we started with last year.
posted by YukonGold at 09:31 AM on February 18, 2007
i'll drop out of the other one as well if someone leaves their spot in this league.
posted by dfleming at 09:57 AM on February 18, 2007
I'd also like to see the rules, but would put my name on the waiting list.
posted by The_Black_Hand at 10:32 AM on February 18, 2007
Me too on the waiting list.
posted by hawkguy at 02:23 PM on February 18, 2007
I've done a lot more research so we might think about going mixed, I wasn't confident we could do that last year. We'd have to double the league size, but it sounds like that might be in order anyway.
posted by yerfatma at 02:30 PM on February 18, 2007
or maybe there's a need for two (one AL, one NL). May be more interest this year already.
posted by YukonGold at 05:09 PM on February 18, 2007
Last year's league rules There are still some kinks to work out, but gets the point across.
posted by YukonGold at 05:58 PM on February 18, 2007
You know what would be really cool, that I've always wanted to try and which seems totally doable given the reaction in here: create two leagues, one AL and one NL. Hold two separate drafts. End the season sometime before the end of the season (a week, 10 days -- or two full pitching rotations, or two weeks, whatever). Then create a head-to-head scenario for the winner of each league a sort of World Series. In the age of Yahoo fantasy sports, there has to be some way to do this without leaping through too many hoops. The one holdup would be that you might need a second "League President" of sorts to keep order without overwhelming the Commissioner. And to follow up my suggestion with a totally lame bail, I can't volunteer for that presidential duty -- I am a new Commissioner in my other keeper league, and my work this summer is going to make that a stretch in itself. I hate extending the level of organizational difficulty without offering any assistance, but I figured it couldn't hurt to at least throw in out there. The more fantasy baseball emulates real baseball, the more I like it.
posted by The Crafty Sousepaw at 07:25 PM on February 18, 2007
Also, who is that BallpeenPro? You can probably take him off your list. Anyone who would tout himself a "pro" probably knows ditka about baseball.
posted by The Crafty Sousepaw at 07:49 PM on February 18, 2007
Yeah, that guy was a jerk.
posted by The_Black_Hand at 05:20 AM on February 19, 2007
Yukon, I'll politely bow out. I'm just a bit too busy to put the proper time into this, and I am involved in one keeper league already. Best of luck to everyone.
posted by mbd1 at 09:11 AM on February 19, 2007
You know what would be really cool I agree. That would be cool. Realistically we'll probably have trouble getting to 24 willing participants, but should we get that high I'm all for it. We'd probably have to come up with some clunky apparatus for running it but it's possible. Right now we've got 4 confirmations from last year and 6 with new interest. We'll see how it goes as the rest trickle in. btw, it's times like this I wish there was a way to leave messages for other users on login. Has that ever been discussed?
posted by YukonGold at 12:40 PM on February 19, 2007
I'd still like to do this.
posted by cl at 12:54 PM on February 19, 2007
I'll take tron702's spot.
posted by tron7 at 02:53 PM on February 19, 2007
I think I will be taking a year off from baseball pools. I suck at it. And while this one is appealing, I don't think I'd be able to give it the attention it would need.
posted by gspm at 05:00 PM on February 19, 2007
I don't think I'd be able to give it the attention it would need. That's been my personal philosophy on roto baseball since 1999 or so.
posted by yerfatma at 07:16 PM on February 19, 2007
I'm in.
posted by catfish at 10:57 AM on February 20, 2007
Cool. Only waiting on goddam and elovrich from last year's krew
posted by YukonGold at 01:40 PM on February 20, 2007
i'm in.
posted by goddam at 02:39 PM on February 20, 2007
Here's the list we have now. Without a better system I ordered the wait list by user number. 1. yukon 2. yerfatma 3. catfish 4. goddam 5. sousepaw 6. cl 7. tron 8. bperk 9. jerseygirl 10. wfrazejr 11. dfleming 12. black hand ----- 13. elovrich* 14. hawkguy 15. forrestv Unfortunately the auction structure really prohibits expanding beyond 12. Last year people discussed co-managing if anyone is interested in that. Doesn't look like we'll find an additional 9 people to be able to have one AL and one NL league, although I'd love it if we could. Here is an updated rules doc with changes to the waiver system. We will place a limit on the number of waiver pickups you can make in a season. I'm also unsure of whether we should complicate the contracts with the whole "guaranteed" thing. Does anyone have questions about rules? I'm trying to simplify a couple areas (waivers/contracts) but I think we'll stick with an AL-only format. Doing a mixed league really brings a lot of difficult factors in the the keeper scenarios.
posted by YukonGold at 06:44 AM on February 21, 2007
posted by YukonGold at 06:54 AM on February 21, 2007
for anyone who wants to play in the head to head league, i've left my spot.
posted by dfleming at 08:39 AM on February 21, 2007
Also, is anyone west coast? Next hurdle is finding a time to meet in the campfire to draft. Please feel free to toss out suggestions. It may take two sessions as it will be a little time to complete.
posted by YukonGold at 01:03 PM on February 21, 2007
i am available sundays for sure, all other times could be touch and go. that said, i'll try to negotiate my schedule around it.
posted by dfleming at 01:13 PM on February 21, 2007
4am on a Wednesday. You're all home, don't try to play different.
posted by yerfatma at 01:47 PM on February 21, 2007
4am on a Wednesday. You're all home, don't try to play different. *notes "late night keeper auction leagues" in the "reasons to develop a drug habit" list* that settles it.
posted by dfleming at 03:38 PM on February 21, 2007
I think we can agree that's fine as long as it's not 4 am on or immediately after St. Pat's.
posted by jerseygirl at 04:32 PM on February 21, 2007
Ok. How about Sunday, March 25, 6:00pm EST ? If we need another session we can use an additional time after that. Again, this will all transpire in the SpoFi campfire...not at the Yahoo site.
posted by YukonGold at 05:11 PM on February 21, 2007
S'mores?
posted by yerfatma at 05:12 PM on February 21, 2007
Here's the list we have now. Without a better system I ordered the wait list by user number Ummm, how about whomever called dibs first?
posted by forrestv at 07:53 PM on February 21, 2007
I suppose I could have done that as well, sorry.
posted by YukonGold at 04:28 AM on February 22, 2007
forrestv, if you want in, I'll gracefully bow out. It's only fair, you got dibs.
posted by The_Black_Hand at 05:37 AM on February 22, 2007
Do it dibs first. That's fair.
posted by jerseygirl at 06:58 AM on February 22, 2007
That's quite gentlemanly of you TBH. Thanks. Sorry folks...I'd never make a good politician.
posted by YukonGold at 07:12 AM on February 22, 2007
Well if that's our draft time I may have to bow out too. I'll be in Colorado that weekend and I don't know if I'll have access to the internets. I'm not saying I'm out yet, I would really hate to miss this league. Give me a week or so to figure something out.
posted by tron7 at 08:55 AM on February 22, 2007
Defintely just an initial suggestion based on feedback that Sundays are good, but the day after St. Pats is bad (from another thread). If that's not true, the week before is a possibility.
posted by YukonGold at 09:12 AM on February 22, 2007
Wednesday at 4 is looking better all the time.
posted by yerfatma at 09:23 AM on February 22, 2007
week before! if it's the day after the holiday, technically i'll be home, but i'll probably draft retired players.
posted by dfleming at 11:09 AM on February 22, 2007
Ok, so how do we all feel about Sunday, March 18, 6:00 EST ?
posted by YukonGold at 12:38 PM on February 22, 2007
Actually that won't work for me either so don't switch it on my account. I don't know why I have all this stuff planned during prime fantasy baseball draft times.
posted by tron7 at 01:18 PM on February 22, 2007
Any of the aforementioned times work for me. My pregnant cat is due on the 18th, but let's don't factor that into the equation.
posted by The Crafty Sousepaw at 02:49 PM on February 22, 2007
My pregnant cat is due on the 18th Don't you usually need to know the conception date to project so accurately? You guys using the Rhythm Method or something?
posted by yerfatma at 04:54 PM on February 22, 2007
I think it's nice he's finally settling down and starting a family, yerfatma.
posted by jerseygirl at 05:35 PM on February 22, 2007
I'm not comfortable with any kind of due date surrounding this draft. If you have bills due that day, you're not to pay them.
posted by YukonGold at 07:34 PM on February 22, 2007
We should bring cigars, either way.
posted by yerfatma at 07:52 PM on February 22, 2007
For those of you who think, hey, a cat's gotta be easier, less hormonal, fewer late night cravings, less nagging, etc., yeah, no, that's not true. Stick to women, guys. Trust me. We should bring cigars, either way. I'm planning on drafting some Cubans.
posted by The Crafty Sousepaw at 08:12 PM on February 22, 2007
AllUrBasesBelong2Us is officially on board. However, the March 25th would not work for me, as I'm finishing up a major three-day show in Toronto that day. The 18th is tough also, as I have Ron Duguay Phil Goyette signing in-store that day. I can try to beat it home, though. We should bring cigars, either way. In that same vein, I'd like to announce that I've hired Monica Lewinsky to handle all publicity and media relations for the team.
posted by wfrazerjr at 08:52 PM on February 22, 2007
The 18th is tough also, as I have Ron Duguay Phil Goyette signing in-store that day don't tease me like that.
posted by goddam at 09:45 PM on February 22, 2007
We've lost steam on the draft date here. If we can't get a consensus date we may have to scrap the auction portion and retool for a traditional draft with keepers.
posted by YukonGold at 06:47 AM on February 27, 2007
Auction drafting is so much more fun than rotation drafting, it would be a shame to drop it. It totally removes the purpose of most of the rules, too. Yuke, why don't you just give a list of 3-5 dates that you think will be popular and allow all interested parties, including wait-list candidates, to weigh in on each date. If you can get 12 on any of the dates, go with that. Maybe people on the A-list who aren't available on the best date can team up with wait-listers who can make it. The rules need to stipulate a concrete date for future drafts. My league has had about a 99% attendance rate for the auction by letting everyone know that it will always be the first Saturday after Opening Day. Everyone seems to keep the date open.
posted by The Crafty Sousepaw at 07:33 AM on February 27, 2007
Agreed.I definitely don't want to lost the auction thing, we just have an extra set of obstacles all being remote. Please vote on which of these times will work for you. #1 Sunday March 18, 6:00pm EST #2 Sunday March 25, 6:00pm EST #3 Sunday April 1, 6:00pm EST #4 Tues/Wed March 20/21 8:00 pm EST (two nights) #5 Tues/Wed March 27/28 8:00 pm EST (two nights)
posted by YukonGold at 08:56 AM on February 27, 2007
How long are we going to go on the weeknights? If we don't go over two hours, I can be available any of those times.
posted by bperk at 09:00 AM on February 27, 2007
Live auction, keeper league, 25 player active roster, 17 player reserve roster: takes about six hours. Our roster numbers here are smaller than my other league, but we are drafting full rosters, with no keepers filling spots, and the thing is being done online (I have no idea if this fact will make it shorter or longer). If the auctioneer is good at keeping things moving (and everyone is pretty much prepared) I'm guessing the whole draft process will require four to five total hours. Since the reserve part is a rotation draft, it can easily be done off-line at a separate time (maybe even as a locker room thread), which would reduce the online draft time by a bit. I wouldn't count on less than four hours. Additional consideration: my other league allows each team three one-minute "time outs" during the draft, which stop the auctioneer so that people can give additional consideration to the current player on the block or adjust draft strategy going forward. Teams rarely use all three, but these might be useful in a league that has a lot of rookies. The downside, of course, is that it can add up to 36 minutes to the draft time. Just something to mull over. I'm pretty sure any of those five time slots work for me.
posted by The Crafty Sousepaw at 09:18 AM on February 27, 2007
How long are we going to go on the weeknights? I was personally thinking no later than 11:00. Live auction, keeper league, 25 player active roster, 17 player reserve roster: takes about six hours. That's good to know. We'll only be auctioning 20 players so hopefully we can stay within that time frame. Since the reserve part is a rotation draft, it can easily be done off-line at a separate time (maybe even as a locker room thread) I was definitely thinking that we'd use a locker room thread for that.
posted by YukonGold at 10:18 AM on February 27, 2007
I am going to withdraw from this league (if I was in it after 'dibs' anyway). Good luck fellas.
posted by jerseygirl at 10:26 AM on February 27, 2007
Sure thing jg, sorry to see you go. Try to keep in touch. TBH - your spot is back if you want it.
posted by YukonGold at 12:47 PM on February 27, 2007
TBH doesn't need to do that. He can have the spot he offered me (thanks, by the way.) Just started a new job and I'm the lucky guy who's going to work nights and weekends. Best of luck.
posted by forrestv at 06:19 PM on February 27, 2007
any of those dates are fine with me.
posted by goddam at 06:32 PM on February 27, 2007
I'm the lucky guy who's going to work nights and weekends. So you've got nothing but availability. Alt+Tab man.
posted by YukonGold at 06:48 PM on February 27, 2007
Those dates all seem fine.
posted by yerfatma at 07:34 AM on February 28, 2007
The weeknights after about 10 pm won't really work for me. Otherwise, I think any of those dates are fine.
posted by bperk at 11:59 AM on February 28, 2007
Smells like progress... 1. Yukon (any) 2. The artist formerly known as bullpenpro (any) 3. goddam (any) 4. yerfatma (any) 5. bperk (preferably not after 10PM)
posted by YukonGold at 01:28 PM on February 28, 2007
all those times work for me
posted by catfish at 12:23 PM on March 02, 2007
sweet. I'm gonna try emailing some of those missing. 6. catfish (any)
posted by YukonGold at 04:32 PM on March 02, 2007
Sorry, wasn't paying attention. 7. tron7 (#3,#4, or#5)
posted by tron7 at 05:43 PM on March 02, 2007
I can do 2, 4, or 5.
posted by cl at 07:11 PM on March 02, 2007
8. cl (#2,4,5)
posted by YukonGold at 08:27 PM on March 02, 2007
9. dfleming (2,3,1)
posted by dfleming at 11:16 PM on March 02, 2007
4. yerfatma (36/24/36) (.322/40/143)
posted by yerfatma at 09:58 AM on March 03, 2007
2. BullpenPro (252 of 252)
posted by The Crafty Sousepaw at 06:58 PM on March 03, 2007
Thought that guy didn't care about stats.
posted by yerfatma at 02:50 PM on March 04, 2007
Sorry for gthe delay, folks. I have another live draft on the 18th and the 25th I'm at a hockey card show tearing down until late. Any of the other three times work for me, and if you have to do one of the other two, just dump me out.
posted by wfrazerjr at 11:27 AM on March 08, 2007
Sorry can't make it. Leaving for Africa next week.
posted by catfish at 05:25 PM on March 09, 2007
Here is the manager list from last year. If you would like to try again, just raise your voice and I'll get you a link to signup. yukon yerfatma mbd1 dusted catfish goddam bullpenpro gspm cl tron702 bperk elovrich Anyone who isn't on this list and has interest, please let me know...we may have room depending on remaining interest.