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October 23, 2006
Reyes Reminds Us Of Baseball's Greatness: When Cardinals rookie righthander Anthony Reyes threw his first pitch, he became the official worst pitcher ever to start Game 1 for the unofficial worst team ever to play in a World Series.
posted by irunfromclones to baseball at 12:17 PM - 25 comments
The Cardinals aren't close to the worst team to ever be in a world series. In fact, they lost the world series to the worst team to ever appear, at least in my lifetime, in 1985.
posted by rchugh at 02:56 PM on October 23, 2006
83 regular season wins, in a weak division, says yes, they are probably the worst team to appear in a WS.
posted by mjkredliner at 03:11 PM on October 23, 2006
The '90 Reds were a pretty bad team, except for their shortstop and bullpen.
posted by BullpenPro at 03:23 PM on October 23, 2006
In fact, they lost the world series to the worst team to ever appear, at least in my lifetime, in 1985. 1985 Royals were 91-71, and had a fairly decent line-up for the worst team to ever win a World Series. Sounds like sour grapes from a fan of the losing team. If you're going to hate on someone, hate on Don Deckinger.
posted by hawkguy at 03:38 PM on October 23, 2006
Being an accountant, I know how misleading stats can be. Stats never take all of the issues into account. Things like injuries, chemistry, and of course momentum. The Card's line-up is definitely not weak by any stretch of the imagination. They have the ability to put up 6+ each night. Anyone would take that.
posted by yay-yo at 05:04 PM on October 23, 2006
alright hawkguy. please don't give us card fans an outlet for our frustration over the 85 series. We got a bad call, but show me a seven game series that hasn't had a bad call. We had the rest of that game and game seven to win it, we just got beat by a team that wanted it worse than us. I guess if we lose this we can use the whole Rodgers "what's on his thumb?" ordeal.
posted by dropzone at 05:12 PM on October 23, 2006
The Cards almost "momentum-ed" themselves out of the playoffs completely. That said, they can get hot, they play sound defense, they have been here before, and they have the same motivation as their opponents, and I don't discount their chances against a young team like the Tigers.
posted by mjkredliner at 05:13 PM on October 23, 2006
The '90 Reds were a pretty bad team, except for their shortstop and bullpen. Dude. You're kidding...right?
posted by tselson at 05:46 PM on October 23, 2006
What about the 2003 Marlins? What was that all about?
posted by JohnEBGood at 06:03 PM on October 23, 2006
Dude. You're kidding...right? Tony LaRussa told me to say that.
posted by BullpenPro at 06:16 PM on October 23, 2006
On paper, that '90 A's team was better than the Reds. That didn't mean much after about four games. And I should know. Those were four terrible games for me.
posted by igottheblues at 06:37 PM on October 23, 2006
Tony LaRussa told me to say that. Damn, that cracked me up.
posted by tselson at 10:33 PM on October 23, 2006
alright hawkguy. please don't give us card fans an outlet for our frustration over the 85 series. We got a bad call, but show me a seven game series that hasn't had a bad call. We had the rest of that game and game seven to win it, we just got beat by a team that wanted it worse than us. I guess if we lose this we can use the whole Rodgers "what's on his thumb?" ordeal. Amen. There were a lot of reasons why we went on and lost it. Porter's past ball moved the runner when the bunt failed. Game 7 was sad and embarrassing. We self destructed again in game 7 in '87 against the Twinkies. I thought for sure that Reyes would lose and that Weaver would win. The end result is that we took one in Detroit. I still think that Detroit will win but I hope that the Red birds can pull it off. Reyes did pitch one hell of a game.
posted by budman13 at 11:03 PM on October 23, 2006
I guess if we lose this we can use the whole Rodgers "what's on his thumb?" ordeal. First off I am somewhat of a Cards fan, Indians first, Cards second. Whatever was on his thumb was gone in the second inning, and he continued to shut down the Cards until he got pulled. On edit: No, not really. You can not use that for any kind of a valid excuse and get away with it.
posted by jojomfd1 at 12:35 AM on October 24, 2006
Being an accountant, I know how misleading stats can be. Stats never take all of the issues into account. Cold comfort come audit time.
posted by yerfatma at 06:47 AM on October 24, 2006
'73 Mets?
posted by ajaffe at 07:58 AM on October 24, 2006
"waht's on his thumb?....? LaRussa is holding on to that in case they lose. At least he won't have to say it was Bill Clinton fault!
posted by Senior33 at 08:25 AM on October 24, 2006
LaRussa is not holding on to anything, if he was going to make a big deal of it he would have in the first inning of the game.
posted by jojomfd1 at 08:42 AM on October 24, 2006
If he's not making a big deal, why are the sport pages/sections still picking up on the story? If it is a moot point now, I don't want to read anymore on the subject....or maybe its the writers, with nothing else to pump up!
posted by Senior33 at 09:10 AM on October 24, 2006
Edmonds is still not 100%, obviously Rolen is not either. The Cardinals will go as far as Albert takes them.
posted by wdminott at 11:20 AM on October 24, 2006
Funny, all I saw, pre-game one, was "Tigers in four, Tigers in three (yeah, well...) and Cards, no way, yada, yada, yada... Game one goes by the boards and, oops, StL up one nil. Funny, NO TALK from tigger nation. Game two: "Melted tootsie roll" on the palm but, in all honesty, seven good innings from "the Scrambler", a pissed-away Cardinal ninth...teams are knotted. STILL no talk from "Catmandu"... Game three, quiet early, Cards go up, Zum goes wild thang, Miner gets lucky, "Here we go loop-di-loop". Hmmmmm.....gotta wonder if that litter box needs some attention... What was that old saying...Kenny the STAIN, and pray for rain?
posted by wolfdad at 10:48 PM on October 24, 2006
Man. I wish the fans of these teams would stop sucking my will to root for either of them.
posted by BullpenPro at 11:05 PM on October 24, 2006
Man. I wish the fans of these teams would stop sucking my will to root for either of them. Hear, hear. But don't bother rooting for one of them Root for a decent enough game so as to avoid passing out.
posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 08:30 AM on October 25, 2006
Man. I wish the fans of these teams would stop sucking my will to root for either of them. If being a Cardianal fan is being a person saying catmandu and loop-di-loop I'm real glad to be a Tiger fan.
posted by Ying Yang Mafia at 04:07 PM on October 25, 2006
This is why baseball games are played on the field, not on paper.