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July 06, 2006
Mavs to deal Daniels to Indiana for Croshere.: The Dallas Morning News is playing up the Mavs expected $19 Million in savings. The Indiana Star sees the Pacers getting younger.
posted by lilnemo to basketball at 12:53 PM - 11 comments
I think virtually every fan in Dallas knew that Daniels time was up with the Mavs. He had fallen to far end of bench except in emergency situations. Did not seem to have coach's trust. Mavs already have plenty of guards, swingmen, and Marquis was behind most of them. Whether it was the injuries, the system, or whatever, he just no longer seemed to fit. Croshere at least may give Dallas someone to throw out on the front line to spell Dirk a few minutes next season.
posted by graymatters at 01:30 PM on July 06, 2006
Croshere at least may give Dallas someone to throw out on the front line to spell Dirk a few minutes next season. He'll be playing the role of Keith Van Horn next season:
...underperforming, overpaid white guy coming off the bench.
posted by lilnemo at 01:45 PM on July 06, 2006
He'll be playing the role of Keith Van Horn next season Yeah, but for like $8.4 million less.
posted by graymatters at 02:35 PM on July 06, 2006
I always expected more of Croshere. I really thought he'd be more like Bird, and less like Van Horn. His last year at Providence, he averaged 33 minutes a game, 17.9 ppg, 7.5 rpg, and 1.5 apg. He's played well at times in the pros, but there just seems to be a lack of "overthetopness" somewhere in him. A shame, I thought he'd show a little game in the NBA. Maybe I should go to New York and help Isaiah scout talent.
posted by The_Black_Hand at 04:35 PM on July 06, 2006
Good deal for both teams. This allows Dallas to basically stand pat for the most part. They lose Van Horn and Daniels, replacing them with Croshere and Maurice Agar. Good smart moves by a smart franchise. Maybe they add one more piece to the puzzle...but who knows. Mike James's name has been mentioned.
posted by chemwizBsquared at 05:22 PM on July 06, 2006
I like it as well. I figured that the Mavs would try to shop Daniels around, since it's no secret that Quisey can't/won't find favor with Avery. They get Croshere back, whose contract is up after this season, and have a little bit of extra money to re-sign J-Ho. I've got quite a bit of love for Daniels, mostly from his rookie year. Given the right system and a coach that can actually motivate him, he could be a good 3rd option offensively for a team and can pull his weight on defense. Not bad for an undrafted walk-on. While I haven't seen Croshere play a whole lot (and never enough consistently to get a good vibe on him) he appears to be a little bit tougher than KVH, which works just fine for me. If he doesn't pan out, maybe Josh Powell steps up to fill that role. Either way, we get to see pretty quickly what Maurice Ager (or failing him, Rawle Marshall) are made of.
posted by Ufez Jones at 07:31 PM on July 06, 2006
How can an undrafted walk-on have a motivation problem in his third year? Considering how lucky he was to get a shot in the NBA, I don't understand the fall of Marquis Daniels in Dallas. He should've gone straight from the Game 6 loss to practice for the next season.
posted by rcade at 08:30 AM on July 07, 2006
I really don't have an opinion about the Mavs or the Pacers. I saw a few Providence games when Austin Croshere played and like Black_Hand, I also thought that Croshere would find his niche in the NBA. In a lot of ways, he has. AC had become a dependable bench player that can/will start a few games and can hit the 3 point shot which is something that Marquis Daniels could not accomplish. This move may very well improve both teams.
posted by BornIcon at 09:40 AM on July 07, 2006
He should've gone straight from the Game 6 loss to practice for the next season. Actually, he went straight from the Game 6 loss to the hospital. His fiancee went into labor during the game. Considering how lucky he was to get a shot in the NBA, I don't understand the fall of Marquis Daniels in Dallas. I think it's easier to just consider this trade (and the release of KVH into FA status) the final transition from Nellie to Avery. For whatever reason, AJ just didn't like Marquis, and he made it pretty obvious (except for the time that Stack spent injured) that Marquis wasn't part of his system. I'm glad to see Quisey get another shot with a different team, but he was just systemed out, for lack of a better term, here.
posted by Ufez Jones at 10:23 AM on July 07, 2006
As a Pacers fan I was initially excited because from a talent perspective this trade is very lopsided. However, when I checked out the contracts I was a little bummed out. Daniels is due $6m per for the next 4 and I'm not sure that he'll produce enough to justify that. Granted, his minutes will go up and he very well might have a career year next year, but I'd almost rather see Croshere walk next year with no compensation that get saddled again with another mediocre talent/absurd contract.
posted by chmurray at 03:51 PM on July 07, 2006
Personally, I think that the Mavs could have gotten more for him, but it frees lots of cap space. I think its safe to say that Peja is going to NO- they already have his replacement.