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October 02, 2005
Done and done. Tarver has once again shut Roy Jones up.
posted by supersly26 at 02:59 AM on October 02, 2005
Nice article
posted by jojomfd1 at 03:43 AM on October 02, 2005
I was watching friday night fights and it seems that this Guy may be the next to fight Tarver. In the 10th round he actually stopped hitting Jones to wave the ref in to stop the fight. The ref didn't come in right away, so he hit Jones again before the ref stopped it. I have never seen a boxer do that before. My hats off to Glen Johnson for having the peice of mind to know when he had done enough damage. In the interview after the fight he made reference to the recent deaths and severe injuries that hve happened in Las Vegas. He noted that he would have hated to see that happen again.
posted by jojomfd1 at 04:52 AM on October 02, 2005
Yeah it was a classy move for a boxer to call a fight. Especially after all of the boxing tragedys that have occured recently.
posted by redsoxrgay at 03:30 PM on October 02, 2005
In the 10th round he actually stopped hitting Jones to wave the ref in to stop the fight. The ref didn't come in right away, so he hit Jones again before the ref stopped it. I have never seen a boxer do that before. It is a classy move. Ali use to do it to "showboat". Rocky M. Did it a few times. Most recently larry holmes did it in a fight where he punched the opponent then asked the ref to stop it, ref didnt. larry unleashed another combo, then asked the ref again. Finally the ref stepped in. Johnson and tarver should have a rubber match coming up. I'll take johnson.
posted by RZA at 04:15 PM on October 02, 2005
Johnson looked pretty tough, thats for sure.
posted by jojomfd1 at 04:18 PM on October 02, 2005
well i said it before and i'll say it again roy jones was overrated.
posted by aztlan78 at 04:18 PM on October 02, 2005
Where would we be without folks to jump on champions after their era ends. Explain how everyone else was wrong about Roy Jones Jr.
posted by yerfatma at 05:10 PM on October 02, 2005
I don't think Roy Jones, Jr. was overrated. That guy, in his prime, was quick as a cat, had pretty good defense and had some decent power. His style was unorthodox,but he always seemed to be in great shape. I think Jones was somewhat cursed by his body size. He had no legitimate challenges in his weight division. It's past due for Roy to hang 'em up. I, personally, am going to miss seeing him land a left hook when he (Jones) has his hands down by his waist. Cat quick.
posted by Desert Dog at 06:00 PM on October 02, 2005
....If only Mike Tyson could understand that.......
posted by redsoxrgay at 07:25 PM on October 02, 2005
I watched this fight....BORING. Jones danced around a lot and didn't throw many punches at all; he looked like he was content to just get to the end without Tarver knocking him out again. This was quite possibly the lamest fight I have ever seen.
posted by stofer71 at 07:50 PM on October 02, 2005
I don't have to explain his ugly ko's and his defeat last night said it all. people say its because he is 35 or 36 but look at b-hop he's 40 and still looked sharp. He never fought quality fighters like tarver that often or even if ever. he fought hopkins but that was before hopkins became the fighter he is now. So thats why I say he was overrated. He was never really tested. He has a questionable jaw. But of course that my opinion.
posted by aztlan78 at 08:26 PM on October 02, 2005
He trained him from the age of 10 to 1993. Thats one old dude!!!
posted by jojomfd1 at 09:32 PM on October 02, 2005
Hey atzlan78, some athletes age better than others. Obviously, Hopkins is a freak. You can count how many athletes were as sharp as Hopkins at 40 on 1 hand. And I agree with you that Jones was never tested. There just weren't any great fighters in his weight class. But I bet he would have kicked Tarver's ass if Roy was younger. But that's what great about boxing. You could kick back with a couple beers and talk what if all night. Although boxing has seen better days than where it's currently at. Are there any big fights on the horizon?
posted by Desert Dog at 10:19 PM on October 02, 2005
next week there's a lightweight fight Corrales Vs Castillo. The first fight was epic. I hope the rematch is the same. Experts say it was the best lightweight fight of all time. its on Oct 8th
posted by aztlan78 at 06:44 AM on October 03, 2005
Oh man - I am looking forward to that one. I caught the replay of Corrales Castillo and that was a total fucking war. Best fight I've ever seen. Jones pretty much did have a questionable chin - because it never felt the impact of a punch for a decade! Now it does seem that his desire has deteriorated to the point where he's just looking not to get too hurt. I was/am a huge Jones Jr. fan, but his time is clearly over. His legacy will be as a man who moved pretty fluidly through a ridculous amount of weight-classes but very much did lack any susbstatial opponents to truly measure him against the greats.
posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 08:09 AM on October 03, 2005
I couldnt agree with you more WeedyMcSmokey on both points.
posted by aztlan78 at 08:49 AM on October 03, 2005
I see both points. However i think some critics are forgetting something. 1. Roy jones was a MIDDLEWEIGHT (champion, who beat hopkins) turned lightheavy weight(champion, who beat tarver) turned heavyweight (champion). 2. as compared to hopkins, hopkins was criticized for never changing weight. he started middleweight and stayed middleweight. with his only comp coming from jr middleweight champs moving up in weight(trinidad,Hoya,)thats why "the general" boxing crowd never heard of him until he was 38. 3. Jones is a middleweight, you cannot forget that. He wasnt overated, what he did was amazing. 4. jones could have retired after beating ruiz but he didnt. He was and is a true champion. Ever time he fought lightheavy or heavyweight it was a risk. Jones didnt have to fight tarver(someone tell me the names of 2 people tarver beat before jones, without using "ask jeeves".) 5.styles make fights. mosley vs. forrest, hoya vs. mosley, duran vs. leonard, jones vs. tarver,. mosley is still a great fighter(beating hoya) duran was one of the greatest in his class(but he got beat by a lightweight) 6.Jones making wieght for tarver jones 1 wasnt like james toney making weight. he had to lose pure muscle. which is alot harder than losing fat. Start calling tarver great when he puts on 20 pounds and moves up and gets a heabyweight belt. hopkins wanted to fight tarver before he fought the kid that beat him, tarver wouldnt do it because there was nothing but risk(unlike jones who never shyed away from a risk i.e fighting tarver) 7. i was never a big jones fan(i always thought he was ok)but dont forget the facts when you start bashing a former champ when hes done. Although its understandable if your a jones hater you been silent for the past 15 years so i know you've been waiting for this moment for a long time. sorry about the long post but i just wanted to throw some reminders out there.
posted by RZA at 11:09 AM on October 03, 2005
No need to apologize. Good stuff.
posted by yerfatma at 11:41 AM on October 03, 2005
Jones was the best pound for pound in the world for so long it's unreal. Time catches up with all of us.
posted by fade2244 at 02:51 PM on October 03, 2005
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