April 13, 2004

NBA rules Bob Sura's third straight triple-double illegal: citing a field goal attempt as "a player's attempt to shoot the ball into the basket for a field goal" and therefore, no tenth rebound is awarded. At least he was shooting at his own basket.

posted by Ufez Jones to basketball at 02:24 PM - 13 comments

This would help explain why Sura, a player I always thought was criminally underrated, has played on so many teams. He should be immediately traded to Boston and join Ricky. They can bounce it off each others head for statistical glory.

posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 03:01 PM on April 13

Come on Weedy......give the guy a break....that was a pretty remarkable accomplishment, and when you are a journeyman stuck in Atlanta, you can forgive a guy for trying to brighten his day. Besides, Moses Malone made a Hall of Fame career out of rebounding his own misses, and nobody says anything... ;)

posted by smithers at 03:09 PM on April 13

Cuban weighs in citing a play that Kobe made last week that I didn't see so I have no opinion on. But hopefully one of you cable-having peoples will have an opinion on it.

posted by Ufez Jones at 04:51 PM on April 13

If Sura and Aigne have their way, he will be here next year. He's had a hard-on for/ against Boston ever since they snubbed him in the draft.

posted by yerfatma at 06:50 PM on April 13

Ufez: I saw the play in question (which kicked ass by the way), but it is definitely a grey area. I find it funny that Cuban brings up Kobe as an example, and not Dwayne Wade (I think), who I believe pulled the same off the backboard play in a game roughly 2 weeks prior to Kobe. It was someone in the east, I could swear it was Wade. Anyone know for sure?

posted by lilnemo at 09:30 PM on April 13

lilnemo, I'd think Cuban has more of a vested interest in watching West Conf. games right now than East, so I don't find that too surprising. I wish Mark had linked to a clip of it or something though.

posted by Ufez Jones at 10:14 PM on April 13

What a bonehead move. Instead of talking about how incredible it was for Bob Sura to get two straight triple-doubles and nearly achieve a third, he's a national joke for trying to artificially pad his stats. I'm glad that the can of whup-ass has been opened here. Records are meaningless if you let players artificially break them. As I said in a past discussion on this topic, in 20 years, more people will remember Nykesha Sales for the basket she faked than they did for the other 2,176 points she scored.

posted by rcade at 08:48 AM on April 14

What about Michael Strahan's record breaking sack on Faav-e-ra?

posted by garfield at 10:26 AM on April 14

Mark Gastineau deserved having that one stolen from him

posted by YukonGold at 12:05 PM on April 14

Ufez: Ask and you shall receive.

posted by lilnemo at 01:09 PM on April 14

Lilnemo -- the clip you linked to (which is great, btw) is of Payton passing the ball off the backboard to Kobe, which I believe is legal. Cuban was taking issue with a play where Kobe passed the ball to himself off the backboard and then threw it down. Anybody have that one?

posted by holden at 01:35 PM on April 14

I'll check that clip when I get home from work, lilnemo. Thanks. Judging from holden's description, I wonder how that was scored. Did Payton get charged for a FGA? Did he get an assist? Did Kobe get a rebound? If Payton got charged for a FGA, then obviously Kobe got a board out of it. If they gave Payton the assist and Kobe no rebound, then Cuban's point is valid. You can't give an assist to yourself and therefore, a double-dribble or travel is expected.

posted by Ufez Jones at 02:09 PM on April 14

Either way Cuban's point is valid. If it's the assist, it's the situation you describe. If it's a FGA, then why isn't Bobby Sura's?

posted by swank6 at 12:29 AM on April 16

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