12/22/24
September 30, 2003
Twins stun Yankees, 3-1,: with solid pitching and a great catch at the wall in the bottom of the ninth.
posted by kirkaracha to baseball at 03:57 PM - 12 comments
the yankee weaknesses: 1. bad bullpen 2. bad defense 3. bernie and giambi continue to struggle ....2 of those 3 cost them the game today....and a bad at bat by rueben sierra..... you will see a yankee bullpen meltdown in this series. felix heredia was throwing in the most meaningful situations today.....
posted by oliver_crunk at 04:22 PM on September 30, 2003
....and latroy hawkins looked lights out
posted by oliver_crunk at 04:23 PM on September 30, 2003
JG, shhh. Let's not even talk about it.
posted by Samsonov14 at 04:27 PM on September 30, 2003
The nice thing for the Twins is that Johan Santana should be completely rested for game four (if needed) on Sunday. Thursday's game will be interesting. If the Yankees start to get anxious, Radke should be able to use his changeup effectively.
posted by emoeby at 04:28 PM on September 30, 2003
Hmm. Have the Yankees ever come from behind to win a series?
posted by vito90 at 07:50 PM on September 30, 2003
probably?
posted by jerseygirl at 08:35 PM on September 30, 2003
Hmm. Have the Yankees ever come from behind to win a series? The A's had a 2-0 lead in the 2001 Divisional series before Jeter's toss to home nabbed Jeremy Giambi in Game 3 to preserve a 1-0 win (and I was there). The momentum seemed to turn on that play and the Yankees won three straight to eliminate Oakland for the second consecutive year, 3 games to 2. Minnesota's going to be tough, especially now that they have the home field advantage. I trust my Yankees can pull it out, then face the A's in an epic ALCS. (ducks to avoid jerseygirl's wrath)
posted by msacheson at 08:45 PM on September 30, 2003
Hmmm, playoff time. I could go for that proposed collaborative link space sidebar thing. I don't think every game is FPP material but I am sure if every game was available for discussion then it wouldn't be all bad (save for clogging the front page). something clean like the linklog at chachacha. brief links, no descriptions, comments ahoy. sigh. looks like I will have to make sojourns outside of spofi to get all the scores.
posted by gspm at 03:45 AM on October 01, 2003
Something I find bothersome in this sabermetric era is MLB's strange definition of an earned run. Apparently the Twins last run was earned, because the next batter hit a double? Counterintuitive. I believe baseball also counts any and all runs scored after a two-out error as unearned, which is also counterintuitive.
posted by cg1001a at 11:07 AM on October 01, 2003
I believe baseball also counts any and all runs scored after a two-out error as unearned, which is also counterintuitive. Two outs, Johnny Fastball strikes out the batter. He's done his job and gets out of the inning. Two outs, Johnny Fastball strikes out batter, yet Mark Fumblefingers drops ball. Inning should be over. Any runs after that out should not be held against Johnny Fastball because he did his job, he got the third out. Earned runs count against the pitcher; runs count against the team, and it's the team who let him down; why should he be held accountable? I don't see how that's counterintuitive.
posted by therev at 02:00 PM on October 01, 2003
My point is if in that situation J Fastball goes on to give up 10 hits and 8 runs, most of those runs should count as earned runs. Only the batter(s) who reached base via an error (and anyone already on base) should be considered unearned runs should they score.
posted by cg1001a at 03:49 PM on October 02, 2003
I can't decide who I'd prefer to see the Red Sox play if they advance to the ALCS. I am tired of the Yankees (and naturally want to see them eliminated immediately), but don't want to struggle on the astroturf with the Twins.