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January 19, 2012
The ultimate veteran, Jamie Moyer, signs a minor league deal with Rockies.:
Forty-nine years old.
From Baseball Think Factory:
Dwight Gooden and Bret Saberhagen both won a CYA before Moyer's MLB debut.
Moyer is older than both of them.
Cecil and Prince Fielder are the only father-son combo to both hit 50 HR.
Moyer is older than Cecil.
posted by grum@work at 01:02 AM on January 19, 2012
(Another tidbit from BBTF)
Anatoly Karpov and Garry Kasparov squaring off twice, in 1984 and 1985, for the world chess championship. Karpov represented the Soviet establishment, Kasparov the brash young challenger.
And, you guessed it, Jamie Moyer is older than Garry Kasparov.
posted by grum@work at 01:36 AM on January 19, 2012
Hoping he makes it, but Colorado ain't exactly a great fit.
posted by yerfatma at 09:19 AM on January 19, 2012
Moyer not only has a lot of baseball memories to cherish; in his time, he's also seen average pro player salaries go from roughly $670,000 to around $3,350,000
In other words, they have quintupled.
posted by beaverboard at 10:30 AM on January 19, 2012
Adjusting for inflation, $670k in 1986 is about $1.3m in today's US dollars. So it's been a factor closer to 2.5.
Still impressive though.
posted by DrJohnEvans at 11:51 AM on January 19, 2012
The average MLB salary in his debut season (1986) was $413,000.
The minimum MLB salary for this season (2012) is $410,000.
One of Moyer's teammates in his first season was Gary Matthews.
His son, Gary Matthews Jr., has already retired.
Since being released by his third team in a row, being offered a minor league coaching position, and spending an entire season in the minors at before getting back to the majors at age 30, Jamie Moyer has won more games than any active pitcher in the majors (233). He's won more games in his 40s than Justin Verlander has in his career.
When Jamie Moyer debuted, it had been 7 years since the Yankees won a World Series, and another 11 years before the Yankees would win again.
posted by grum@work at 12:22 PM on January 19, 2012
Since Jamie Moyer's debut:
Barry Bonds hit 759 home runs, won 7 MVP awards, retired, waited 5 years, and will be on his first HOF ballot this year.
Roger Clemens won 327 games, 7 Cy Young Awards, retired, waited 5 years, and will be on his first HOF ballot this year.
posted by grum@work at 12:51 PM on January 19, 2012
Love this, because as long as Moyer and Wakefield are playing, I know I still have a chance...
posted by justgary at 01:18 PM on January 19, 2012
Moyer is only 33 wins shy of 300. If he can get three or four more solid years out of his arm, wouldn't that lead to an interesting debate.
Is there any pitcher with 300 wins not in the hall of fame?
posted by Ying Yang Mafia at 04:21 PM on January 19, 2012
Is there any pitcher with 300 wins not in the hall of fame?
Roger Clemens, Tom Glavine, Greg Maddux, Randy Johnson (not yet eligible).
posted by tommybiden at 04:37 PM on January 19, 2012
Jamie Moyer is older than everybody!!! Except me, and I'm older than dirt.
Where the hell was Boston in this signing? They are looking for a 4th or 5th starter. They could have re-signed Wakefield, signed Moyer, and saved money by having them share a walker.
posted by Howard_T at 05:14 PM on January 19, 2012
He's won more games in his 40s than Justin Verlander has in his career.
Moyer has 103 wins in his 40s...JV has 107 in his career...
posted by MeatSaber at 07:43 PM on January 19, 2012
Moyer has 103 wins in his 40s...JV has 107 in his career...
You're right. I glanced at Moyer's total and saw 108.
posted by grum@work at 08:23 PM on January 19, 2012
Didn't mean to derail your point, though, grum. The fact that Moyer has, after age 40, kept pace with a young fireballer who is just coming into his prime IS an impressive feat...
posted by MeatSaber at 10:30 PM on January 19, 2012
Here is a list of players on the 40-man roster for the Colorado Rockies:
Rex Brothers
Edwar Cabrera
Jhoulys Chacin
Tyler Chatwood
Edgmer Escalona
Christian Friedrich
Juan Nicasio
Drew Pomeranz
Alex White
Wilin Rosario
Tommy Field
Hector Gomez
DJ LeMahieu
Charlie Blackmon
They were all born after Moyer's MLB debut (June 16, 1986).
* * *
Barry Larkin
Roberto Alomar
They started their careers after Moyer's debut, retired, waited (at least) 5 years, and then were inducted into the HOF.
* * *
Jamie Moyer pitched against Steve Carlton in his debut (June 16, 1986).
Steve Carlton's debut was in April 12, 1965.
* * *
Manny Acta
John Farrell
Joe Girardi
Fredi Gonzalez
Ozzie Guillen
Eric Wedge
These are all the MLB managers from 2011 that are younger than Jamie Moyer.