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February 14, 2011
SportsFilter: The Monday Huddle:
A place to discuss the sports stories that aren't making news, share links that aren't quite front-page material, and diagram plays on your hand. Remember to count to five Mississippi before commenting in anger.
I wonder if part of the reason for the ban was that players tied to Nike or Adidas contractually would be screaming bloody murder. Not to mention the league accounting for the mega-dollars coming from those two and their likely response. Especially if the brothers' patent would block them from releasing reasonably similar shoes.
posted by billsaysthis at 12:04 PM on February 14, 2011
The Packers fan who left the Never Miss a Super Bowl Club this year has died.
posted by rcade at 04:56 PM on February 14, 2011
The company the NBA banned.
There are two opposing arguments here. First, one may argue that such a shoe results in an increase in performance that is due solely to the shoe and not to any increased skill of the wearer. It's a bit like many of the advances in golf equipment that took a long while to be adopted by the various sanctioning bodies. The argument becomes one of "your skill increases as your pocketbook grows". While this would not be true if NBA players were able to wear them, as NBA players and teams certainly have the resources to afford such things, it is very true of amateur players.
The argument in favor of the shoes is that they are merely a technological advance, and should be allowed. While they give the wearer an edge over someone without the shoes, that edge will last only until others begin using the shoes. This argument disregards the pocketbook issue. Of course, there are many sponsors of AAU teams who will make sure their players have the shoe. High school and college boosters will do likewise, until the NCAA puts its nose into the business. The big-time programs will be for them, the less successful schools against.
If either Adidas or Nike is willing to put up a lot of bucks to buy out the company and its patents, I'm pretty sure the NBA could be paid off convinced to allow the shoe.
posted by Howard_T at 05:35 PM on February 14, 2011
NFL files complaint with whines to labor board that players union not negotiating in good faith. I forget: who cancelled the existing agreement?
posted by graymatters at 06:31 PM on February 14, 2011
NFL files complaint with
The only thing I hate more than unions is arrogant ultra rich types who figure they own the legal system because of their net worth (um, guess I'd better throw lawyers in somewhere as well).
NFL and Owners ... you are sitting around making absurd profits off of players who risk their livelihoods every week for you. Just what is it that makes you feel you deserve more profit?
Please explain to fans of the NFL - we just don't understand your position.
posted by cixelsyd at 12:47 AM on February 15, 2011
You obviously haven't been doing enough reading on the subject cixelsyd: everything I've seen from the NFL says fans are 100% behind their efforts to improve the game. So get on the right page.
posted by yerfatma at 08:17 AM on February 15, 2011
Please explain to fans of the NFL - we just don't understand your position.
Business people like to try to control costs of doing business?
posted by tselson at 08:37 AM on February 15, 2011
everything I've seen from the NFL says fans are 100% behind
So you're stating NFL fans support the owners 100%? You can't expect anyone to believe that statement, it's not true.
said player costs have been increasing 11.8 percent annually over the past four seasons
Agreed there needs to be some new controls implemented, especially on draft picks. The owners need to get their act together as a group before simply attacking the players, although that route is much easier to litigate. Clean up your own backyard first - Daniel Snyder (amongst others) pays well over market for every free agent he signs ... does that not contibute to rising salaries?
The 5.5% increase in revenue is the reported "adjusted" increase. Why not provide complete details so a true comparison can be made. Really, I'm sure there are players out there whose 11.8 percent increase in salary last year amounts to a equivalent 5.5% or less after "adjustments".
posted by cixelsyd at 10:01 AM on February 15, 2011
The owners need to get their act together as a group
Isn't that called collusion?
posted by graymatters at 12:24 PM on February 15, 2011
everything I've seen from the NFL says fans are 100% behind
So you're stating NFL fans support the owners 100%? You can't expect anyone to believe that statement, it's not true.
cixelsyd: Read yerfatma's statement again. He's stating what the NFL says is true, not what is really true.
Isn't that called collusion?
No. It's called collusion if something is done while a collective bargaining agreement is active. Since the CBA is defunct, the owners can team up as part of the collective bargaining process against the union.
posted by grum@work at 12:39 PM on February 15, 2011
collusion
I guess it could be taken that way.
What I'm saying is that the owners need to take responsibility for their actions. It makes no sense to blame all of their issues on the players, seek further compensation from and place more regulations on the players, then continue down their same path of excess that is in large part to blame for the situation they claim they are in.
The owners play a major part and simply hard balling the players today does nothing to resolve some critical root issues.
posted by cixelsyd at 01:50 PM on February 15, 2011
The owners play a major part and simply hard balling the players today does nothing to resolve some critical root issues.
Worked for the NHL...
posted by MeatSaber at 02:07 PM on February 15, 2011
the owners need to take responsibility for their actions
roflmao
posted by graymatters at 04:00 PM on February 15, 2011
It makes no sense to blame all of their issues on the players, seek further compensation from and place more regulations on the players
Fans want more football. NFL players aren't delivering. If the goose won't lay more golden eggs, cut it open.
posted by yerfatma at 04:16 PM on February 15, 2011
The company the NBA banned.