12/03/24
March 01, 2005
Chaney's Suspends Himself for Goon Attack: Chaney extended his own suspension by banning himself from the Temple sidelines for the Atlantic 10 tournament.
posted by mayerkyl to basketball at 08:35 AM - 19 comments
Huh? I'd be surprised if Chaney left Temple, whether by his decision or theirs. And even if he did, I'd be even more surprised if he took another job. Not because he wouldn't be welcome anywhere else, but because he's 73...and he's been a basketball coach in Philadelphia for almost 40 years.
posted by mbd1 at 09:34 AM on March 01, 2005
I would think that if Temple was going to can him, they would have done it already. This may cause him to finally retire though. Chaney has a temper that's out of control. But even so, how many coaches have sent guys into the game to rough it up? Better question, which coaches haven't done that? Hell, I remember my high-school coach doing it. If there were no broken arm this wouldn't be a story, and if you saw the play, that kind of hard foul rarely results in a broken bone.
posted by mayerkyl at 09:57 AM on March 01, 2005
Yes, but that's the fine line one plays with when the make decisions to goon it up. It's not just the players welfare on the line - it's the program's reputation. In the public eye, this is a big deal. My guess is that they hope the story goes away, or they force Chaney to 'retire'. If they don't they're playing with their reputation in a dangerous fashion.
posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 10:24 AM on March 01, 2005
Chaney's out of control and has no one at Temple who can control him, which the university acknowledges by letting him issue his own punishments. Perhaps there are a lot of quiet orders from coaches to issue hard fouls, but Chaney took the extra step of making a threat beforehand, and his player was exceptionally blatant. Fouling out in four minutes and ending a player's college career is unbelievable. I think Chaney's put out to pasture after this season, once enough time passes to let him leave a little more gracefully. Perhaps they'll give him a swan-song season to get his plaudits with each final stop around the country, but he embarrassed himself, his program, and Temple with this behavior. If he has to quit an exceptional career in shame, he has no one to blame but himself.
posted by rcade at 11:13 AM on March 01, 2005
It's too bad Dick Cheney didn't suspend himself for selling wholesale lies to the American public and sending thousands of boys into a meat grinder. Anything John Chaney does, by comparison, is very small potatoes.
posted by the red terror at 11:55 AM on March 01, 2005
Chaney (John, not Dick, which is a whole nother story beyond the scope of this website) is far from done at Temple. He's too entrenched there. And he'll coach until he drops. He's got plenty of fire left. Obviously.
posted by chicobangs at 11:56 AM on March 01, 2005
is far from done at Temple. He's too entrenched there. Knight was pretty "entrenched" at I.U.
posted by mayerkyl at 12:50 PM on March 01, 2005
Bringing up Knight is interesting...maybe I'm just missing something here, but I'm not hearing the outcry for Chaney to get kicked out of Temple like I heard for Knight to get the axe in Indiana...
posted by bcb2k2 at 02:02 PM on March 01, 2005
I'm not hearing the outcry for Chaney to get kicked out of Temple like I heard for Knight to get the axe in Indiana He has to try harder, maybe choke a few people...
posted by chris2sy at 03:19 PM on March 01, 2005
If he does it again, then you'll hear the chorus start to grow. But this seems like it's being treated like his having gone over the line. One other thing: Chaney immediately and loudly expressed remorse about what he did. That does count for something, especially in the American media.
posted by chicobangs at 03:57 PM on March 01, 2005
Who wouldn't?
posted by DaGeneral at 04:23 PM on March 01, 2005
at least he didn't threaten to kill somebody this time.
posted by curlyelk at 05:54 PM on March 01, 2005
Who wouldn't? Well, The General, for one...
posted by tieguy at 09:36 PM on March 01, 2005
Chaney immediately and loudly expressed remorse about what he did. If he never opened his mouth at the post-game press conference, we wouldn't even be discussing this.
posted by rocketman at 10:45 AM on March 02, 2005
If anyone is interested in Bob Knight, I recommend reading A Season On the Brink. It's dated now, but very interesting.
posted by mayerkyl at 12:33 PM on March 02, 2005
Any of us that played any level of sports knows that is a common thing. Heck, thats coaching 101. If you dont remember your coaches saying that, then you must have been the water boy or you have amnesia.
posted by Dallas at 12:52 PM on March 02, 2005
I second Mayerkyl's recommendation. Also, (slightly OT for this thread) I just finished Steven King and Stewart O'Nan's Faithful. Not a classic like Season on the Brink or Among The Thugs, but a hell of a read if you're a Sox fan and want to relive last year one more time. Made me pull game 5 of the ALCS off the TiVO to watch again- currently in the bottom of the first :)
posted by tieguy at 01:20 PM on March 02, 2005
The difference between knight and Chaney is that Chaney's already apologized for his actions. Knight rarely (if ever apologized), and generally tried to make authority figures around him seem like assholes.
posted by chmurray at 08:23 PM on March 02, 2005
Smart move. Speaking of moves, where's he going to move to? He can't coach at Temple anymore - not after this. Such arrogance.