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August 08, 2004
Greg Maddux gets career win #300!: It wasn't easy, but he did it. (And yes, I am happy he did it as a Cub!) Will we ever see another 300-game winner?
posted by Sister Havana to baseball at 06:18 PM - 8 comments
The Moose.
posted by charlatan at 08:26 PM on August 08, 2004
I think Glavine will eke it out... barely.
posted by trox at 08:49 PM on August 08, 2004
Glavine might pull it off, if he moves or the Mets get much better. Johnson could, but it is very tough call with his knee rapidly heading to bone on bone. Aside from his knee, I would have no doubt he could picth effectively a la Ryan into his mid-40's. Maddux though, he's so consistently good it's almost boring now. 15 + wins for 16 seasons in a row (hopefully this year will be 17). Career ERA under 3. Also durable as hell. with his lowest start total in a season (other than rookie year) of 25. For a man with 89mph heat, not too shabby
posted by pivo at 09:42 PM on August 08, 2004
Ken Griffey Sr. and Ken Griffey Jr.* (I have NO idea how that happened...)
posted by grum@work at 09:43 PM on August 08, 2004
Glavine will likely do it becausee he's a solid lefty and, even after he fades as a starter, could probably have a job until he's fifty as a set-up/situational man.
posted by dzot at 09:13 AM on August 09, 2004
If he wants to. From what I've heard, Glavine's very aware of Baseball history and would like to include himself in that list - but I doubt he'll pitch until his fifty to do it. I think Randy Johnson is the only one who really stands a chance since he's still at the top of his game and looks like he could possibly last another 4 years to do it. Maddux is tactically the best pitcher I ever saw. Granted, he doesn't have electric middle-of-the-plate stuff, but he is a phenominal pitcher with a laser guided arm. We're not likely to see another success story like his for some time.
posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 01:58 PM on August 09, 2004
The only quibble I have with Johnson is the disparity between his win number and Glavine (and the three plus years of age). I would like to see him do it, but I think he has too many to go.
posted by trox at 02:14 PM on August 09, 2004
I'm pretty sure we will see another 300-game winner, but I don't think he's started pitching in the major leagues just yet. Long shots currently in the majors: C.C. Sabathia, Zack Greinke, Jeremy Bonderman, Edwin Jackson, Randy Johnson (if he pulls a Nolan Ryan and pitches until he's 46), Tom Glavine (if the Mets get better and he pitches well until he's 42) One kid to keep an eye on: Thomas Diamond (Texas A-ball pitcher...21 years old, he's got ungodly stuff). Players who played a MLB game on the same day as Maddux's 1st win and 300th win: Barry Bonds, Ruben Sierra, Julio Franco. Father/Son combinations that played a MLB game on the same day as Maddux's 1st win and 300th win: Jose Cruz Sr. and Jose Cruz Jr. Bob Boone and Brett Boone Buddy Bell and David Bell Jerry Hairston and Jerry Hairston Jr. and Scott Hairston Father/Son combinations that could have played a MLB game on the same day as Maddux's 1st win and 300th win: (* indicates didn't play on date, but played during the required season): Chris Speier* and Justin Speier Tim Raines and Tim Raines Jr.* Tony Perez* and Eduardo Perez* Tony Armas Sr. and Tony Armas Jr.* Ken Griffey Sr. and B* Bob Boone and Aaron Boone* (assuming Aaron comes back from injury and plays just one game this year) courtesy of Retrosheet.org