July 30, 2010

N.J. man gets jail for Phillies game vomit-assault: A 21-year-old New Jersey man has been sentenced to up to three months in jail for intentionally vomiting on another spectator

posted by texpat to baseball at 12:51 PM - 22 comments

Hopefully he considers himself lucky. If he would have done that to me he'd be going to jail and taking his nourishment through tubes.

posted by dyams at 12:55 PM on July 30

The Philly media has dubbed him Pukemon. The guy had no prior record with police. I looked for a story that might explain why he did something so ridiculously offensive, but the press hasn't gotten much on his background beyond an uncle who claimed he's a "nice kid."

posted by rcade at 01:43 PM on July 30

Huh. I was all for kicking his ass and banning him from the stadium. I'm not so into sending him to jail for three months. He's a douchebag, not a felon.

posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 01:44 PM on July 30

He's not a felon -- the crimes he pleaded guilty to are misdemeanors. I think intentionally vomiting on people is an assault for which three months in jail is a fair sentence.

posted by rcade at 01:49 PM on July 30

It's called responsibility. He's an adult; he knew what he was doing; it was in retribution for one of friends being ejected from the stadium.

Rcade: at least we didn't have a defense attorney tell us we had to give this guy a free pass because he had some psychological problem.

posted by jjzucal at 01:54 PM on July 30

Felon in the pejorative sense. Jailbird, convict, whathaveyou. I see it as more of a weekend in jail misdemeanor. (Provided he was properly beaten at the scene of the crime - a very sane and just reaction). I mean, the notoriety itself is a punishment.

posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 01:57 PM on July 30

the notoriety itself is a punishment

Given the nature of the "crime," I doubt that people saying "shame shame" would have much of a deterrent effect.

posted by graymatters at 02:23 PM on July 30

I sure hope this sends a message to jerks that get drunk at games and have no respect toward other fans. This fool was just a kid. So-called adults in their 30's and up will hopefully be more considerate.

posted by JohnEBGood at 05:17 PM on July 30

three months in jail

If it's anything like a jail sentence in in the overcrowded L.A. jails 3 months = about 15 days.

posted by cjets at 06:30 PM on July 30

If it's anything like a jail sentence in in the overcrowded L.A. jails 3 months = about 15 days.

Does that apply to everyone, or just celebrities, though?

posted by MeatSaber at 07:21 PM on July 30

Didn't mean the double-post...must've gotten click happy...

posted by MeatSaber at 07:21 PM on July 30

Does that apply to everyone

I'm happy to say I can't speak from personal experience. But, yea, I believe it does.

posted by cjets at 09:38 PM on July 30

At least someone's getting shorter sentences.

posted by yerfatma at 10:51 PM on July 30

I just have to wonder how he'll fair in jail. There may be some dudes in there that find a rebrobate (of course unlkike themselves) such as he, needs a few lessons in self control. He could find himself in some deeper stuff than vomit.

posted by wildbill1 at 09:12 AM on July 31

Hopefully he considers himself lucky. If he would have done that to me he'd be going to jail and taking his nourishment through tubes. No one would think that this guy's actions were anywhere near a rational human's judgment, it was deguting, the guy is an asshole. Please tell me dyams why you would beat him to a pulp? Would that make things better? Wouldn't you be writing what you did to him from a jail cell next to him if you did? I have to wonder, what are your stats, that make you so tough. Height, weight?? Or are you just a tough writer? No offence intended.

posted by gfinsf at 09:18 AM on July 31

I'm with dyams, in that if some guy purposely projectile vomits on me and my daughter, I'm taking a few swings at the guy. My boxing stats really don't come into play as my adrenalin levels would most likely be off the charts (and, with any luck several others would be holding him by that point).

Interesting misspellings in the last couple of points (not picking on anyone, I've had my share of misspelt, or misused, words)

rebrobate: an undisiplined or wicked brother.

deguting: the act of forcibly projecting the contents of one's guts onto others.

posted by dviking at 10:47 AM on July 31

I haven't been in a fight since Jan. 4, 1986, and that was more of an extended bear hug1. I never suggest that I'd pound somebody -- I could fall and break a hip -- but if somebody intentionally vomited on my kid hell yeah I'd fight them. That cop showed an amazing amount of restraint.

1. It was with my high school sweetheart's secret other boyfriend in Boston, minutes after the Dallas Cowboys lost 20-0 to the Los Angeles Rams, his favorite team. Eric Dickerson ran for 248 yards. Campus security dragged me off and I was banned from Bentley College.

posted by rcade at 11:06 AM on July 31

I just have to wonder how he'll fair in jail.

Well, he threw up on a cop, so that should earn him a bit more favor on the inside than he would otherwise have.

He may need to acquire the skill of being able to vomit on cue both in front of and behind himself solely via neckular rotation. The Linda Blair motivational VHS tape would be a good place to start.

I'm just hoping he doesn't end up with a good behavior day release job at the Campbell's plant in Camden.

posted by beaverboard at 12:01 PM on July 31

Please tell me dyams why you would beat him to a pulp? Would that make things better? Wouldn't you be writing what you did to him from a jail cell next to him if you did? I have to wonder, what are your stats, that make you so tough. Height, weight??

My particulars, since you asked, are 6'4" and 255. I won't give you any more of my resume, because you're probably already thinking that's a lie. And if you choose not to do something when a fat fuck intentionally pukes on your little girl, then that's your choice. I'll take what comes along with my choices, as always, but I'm doing something.

posted by dyams at 04:05 PM on July 31

If you punched him and he fell and struck his head and died and you went to prison for killing a man, you'd learn a valuable lesson about punching people, whatever the reason. So would your little girl.

posted by Hugh Janus at 08:56 AM on August 01

I understand the potential lessons. Thank you.

posted by dyams at 12:52 PM on August 01

While not an attorney, I doubt one would go to prison for hitting a guy that just intentionally threw up on your daughter.

Assuming that you didn't have any "priors", I can't see any jury sending you to prison. Nor can I even see a DA bringing charges on any level that would a conviction would result in prison time. You were attacked, you defended your daughter, and yourself. No intent to kill, so unless you kick him repeatedly while he's laying in a pool of blood on the ground I just don't see prison time. I could be wrong, and I'm sure someone will let me know if I am.

posted by dviking at 01:47 PM on August 01

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