September 19, 2006

Ryder Cup Confidence Pool: : Anyone game? The PGA of America wants to charge me $10 to play and I think that's crap. We can do it ourselves with a google spreadsheet for nothing.

posted by YukonGold to navel gazing at 05:48 PM - 45 comments

Some rules..."borrowed" lovingly Participants will be asked to select a confidence level for players on both teams from 1 to 24. The higher the confidence level, the more confident the participant is that the golfer they select will win their matches that day. If players win their matches, they receive that number of confidence points for the match. In the event of a half, participants will receive ˝ of the confidence points for that match. Tiebreaker #1: Select winning side Tiebreaker #2: USA total points.

posted by YukonGold at 05:53 PM on September 19

Team USA Tiger Woods Phil Mickelson Jim Furyk Chad Campbell David Toms Chris DiMarco Vaughn Taylor J.J. Henry Zach Johnson Brett Wetterich Stewart Cink Scott Verplank Team Europe Darren Clarke Paul Casey Luke Donald Sergio Garcia Padraig Harrington David Howell Robert Karlsson Paul McGinley Colin Montgomerie José Maria Olazábal Henrik Stenson Lee Westwood

posted by YukonGold at 05:58 PM on September 19

Sunday singles matches are worth double points

posted by YukonGold at 06:00 PM on September 19


posted by yerfatma at 07:51 PM on September 19

You could always use Project Confidence to run your pool. Some of the terminology may be off, but hey, it's free, and can cover your needs (I think). Note: I haven't touched it since the World Cup.

posted by qbert72 at 08:31 PM on September 19

How many matches are there? 24?

posted by grum@work at 08:35 PM on September 19

I was thinking the same thing qbert. However, looking at his scoring system, I'm not sure it would work unless you do some more coding. Maybe it could, 2 points for a win, 1 point for a tie? But then how would you double Sundays matches? Enter the results twice? I love confidence pools, especially in sports I know next to nothing about. When does the tourney start?

posted by MrFrisby at 09:37 PM on September 19

I figured someone would need to configure that and didn't want to trouble anyone for a pretty niche pool. If I can customize it, I'll totally check it out. Yerfatma, keep it up and you're guaranteeing yourself a karmic kick in the nuts with grit kids.

posted by YukonGold at 07:14 AM on September 20

Sweet, thanks for the heads up qbert. Everything is set up. Now just enter your picks online. We'll throw out that singles matches = double for the sake of the system. Please note your signing up here and select your tiebreakers. #1 : Winning side #2 : Total USA points

posted by YukonGold at 07:26 AM on September 20

We'll throw out that singles matches = double for the sake of the system. Or, as MrSk8r said, you could enter those results twice to double up the points. In any case, if you have questions or requests, my email's in my profile. Cheers!

posted by qbert72 at 08:04 AM on September 20

ok. we'll do that then. awesome tool guys. 28 total matches. Picks need to be in by Friday 08:00GMT

posted by YukonGold at 09:01 AM on September 20

Excellent. Thanks. Tie Breakers #1 USA #2 15.5

posted by tselson at 10:26 AM on September 20

Tiebreakers for Yukon #1 Europe #2 11.5

posted by YukonGold at 10:42 AM on September 20

Awesome! Thanks for setting this up Yukon. I'm going to do a small amount of research on the Ryder Cup before I start running my infamous random function.

posted by MrFrisby at 11:53 AM on September 20

Tiebreakers. 1. Europe 2. 21.5

posted by DrJohnEvans at 12:00 PM on September 20

Tiebreakers for grum@work #1 USA #2 15.0

posted by grum@work at 12:35 PM on September 20

I'm in. 1. Europe 2. 12.5

posted by chicobangs at 12:44 PM on September 20

I would appreciate being notified if a point total of 21.5 is impossible for the USA, or anyone else for that matter. I have less than no idea what I'm doing.

posted by DrJohnEvans at 03:01 PM on September 20

Here are previous years results/point totals.

posted by tselson at 03:17 PM on September 20

My tiebreakers 1. USA 2. 16.0

posted by Ying Yang Mafia at 04:08 PM on September 20

DJE, it's not impossible for the US to get to 21.5, but it is impossible to lose to Europe and get 21.5. There are 28 total points that will be split between the teams (each match is worth 1, a tie gets each team 1/2)

posted by YukonGold at 04:33 PM on September 20

MrFrisby's tiebreakers: 1) USA 2) 17.5

posted by MrFrisby at 05:35 PM on September 20

Um, qbert, I was wondering: In golf, the lowest score wins and scores are usually negative numbers, can Project Confidence calculate these correctly?

posted by MrFrisby at 05:44 PM on September 20

Owlhouse's tiebreakers: Europe 14.5 (Yes, it'll be that close)

posted by owlhouse at 07:11 PM on September 20

cabuki's tiebreakers: Europe 15.5

posted by cabuki at 05:28 AM on September 21

In golf, the lowest score wins and scores are usually negative numbers, can Project Confidence calculate these correctly? Uh, not now. What I'd rather have is the possibility to just enter outcomes without scores (Tiger beat Jose Maria) but I won't be able to do this in time for this pool. I suggest entering results with dummy scores, i.e. if Tiger beat Jose Maria by 3 strokes, enter Tiger 3, Jose Maria 0. Also, there might be an issue with entering the same result twice as suggested (I have a check in place agains that). You may have to enter the result on different dates. Apart from that, I think you should be good.

posted by qbert72 at 08:20 AM on September 21

Also, there might be an issue with entering the same result twice as suggested (I have a check in place agains that). You may have to enter the result on different dates. What if you used two different dummy scores? ex: game 1, Tiger-1 Jose-0 game 2, Tiger-2 Jose-1

posted by MrFrisby at 10:11 AM on September 21

Not having seen the interface, it should be perfectly fine to enter a translation of the score. I'd imagine it will go like this... Tiger def Sergio 4&3, (enter Tiger 4, Sergio 3) Tiger/Furyk def Sergio/Howell 4&3 (enter Tiger 4, Sergio 3 and Furyk 4, Howell 3). I imagine I can make it work somehow, including the double points...if I have to wait until Monday, I don't think anyone should notice. Thanks for the forward thinking guys.

posted by YukonGold at 10:25 AM on September 21

Tiebreaker #1: USA Tiebreaker #2: 15

posted by smg at 02:00 PM on September 21

I have begun updating the scoreboard and will do so as results come in and time permits.

posted by YukonGold at 07:37 AM on September 22

I forgot my tiebreakers. 1. Europe 2. 11.5

posted by gspm at 07:57 AM on September 22

US is off to a better start than I expected. grum, takes the Friday morning lead. Long way to go.

posted by YukonGold at 09:30 AM on September 22

Standings are now up to date. Lee Westwood appears to be providing one of the biggest swings.

posted by YukonGold at 12:54 PM on September 22

Wow. I knew I would suck, but wow.

posted by DrJohnEvans at 02:03 PM on September 22

hey, i am winnin'. a good day one for me, then.

posted by gspm at 04:31 PM on September 22

Standings are updated. gspm maintains the lead. sunday's matches (where lots of points sit): 11:15AM Montgomerie (EUR) vs. Toms (US) 11:27AM Garcia (EUR) vs. Cink (US) 11:39AM Casey (EUR) vs. Furyk (US) 11:51AM Karlsson (EUR) vs. Woods (US) 12:03PM Donald (EUR) vs. Campbell (US) 12:15PM McGinley (EUR) vs. Henry (US) 12:27PM Clarke (EUR) vs. Johnson (US) 12:39PM Stenson (EUR) vs. Taylor (US) 12:51PM Howell (EUR) vs. Wetterich (US) 1:03PM Olazábal (EUR) vs. Mickelson (US) 1:15PM Westwood (EUR) vs. DiMarco (US) 1:27PM Harrington (EUR) vs. Verplank (US)

posted by YukonGold at 03:20 PM on September 23

Final matches entered. Congrats to gspm

posted by YukonGold at 03:28 PM on September 24

hey, i dun won. a good weekend for me, then.

posted by gspm at 04:28 PM on September 24

Well done gspm. And thanks to the organisers - these confidence pools are now incredibly easy to understand, enter and follow. I consider myself better educated.

posted by owlhouse at 04:51 PM on September 24

Wow. I finished 2nd? I had no idea I would do that well. I had two thoughts in mind: Other than my top 5 (Woods, Furyk, Olazabal, Clarke, Garcia) and my bottom 1 (Mickelson), the rest was a random selection. I'm just upset that Olazabal didn't get more playing time...

posted by grum@work at 06:42 PM on September 24

Wow, I finished... what? Website not found? Qbert!!!

posted by MrFrisby at 08:02 PM on September 24

Once again I did horribly but not bad enough to finish last.

posted by Ying Yang Mafia at 05:15 AM on September 25

Consistently being second to last is quite an achievement. Hold your head up little buckaroo.

posted by YukonGold at 03:06 PM on September 25

In a field of 11 where my score was 194 points lower than first place? If its an achievement its an achievement of pure sucking, nothing more.

posted by Ying Yang Mafia at 04:00 PM on September 25

Nice job, gspm and grum. I owe a certain Mr. Mickelson a smack on the forehead.

posted by tselson at 04:40 PM on September 25

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