October 05, 2004

EPL Fantasy League, Week 8: - revenge of the muppets.

posted by BigCalm to fantasy at 05:40 AM - 93 comments

# Team Manager Gam Tot
1 Deadly Calm Big Calm 74 523
2 Crap City United g s p m 64 462
3 BillSaysThisSCORES!! Bill Lazar 73 449
4 ATL Untitled Tim Truxell 73 447
5 Sauril's Wideboys Mark D 61 442
6 Ardley Athletic Squealy Neily 60 442
7 RED DRAGONS! worldcup 2002 54 434
8 Arsenal's Back Four Pete W 57 433
9 Spacemen United Jason Wilder 58 427
10 the pistolwhippets Ufez Jones 62 416
11 Terrapin Utd R Scully 54 399
12 FC Murcielago skronk _ 37 398
13 phatcat footie garfield on catnip 43 397
14 40,000 Headmen Fat Buddha 42 396
15 Salmacis FC Huw Morris 61 396
16 kwacky's kwitters mr kwacky 61 387
17 sporting lisbian john o'neill 52 384
18 Bosiak Bashers etrader 9 73 380
19 Cutters Redux mbd1 mbd1 47 362
20 Mossy Unathletic Me Mossy 58 335
21 last again eckeric eckeric 43 333
22 Cream of Chicken Ian Townsend 37 333
23 Slow And Foamy J Warwick 53 327
24 Blammos! Star Unsuitable 50 321
25 Bayern Mucus Danny the Taupe 40 311
26 born to lose J B 51 296
27 Cool Springs United John Hill 48 294
28 Napsacks lil nemo 32 258

posted by BigCalm at 05:41 AM on October 05, 2004

12th? wow dude. Also, Pires, you're fired!

posted by garfield at 08:16 AM on October 05, 2004

I never cared for Pires...takes too many dives for my liking.

posted by StarFucker at 08:30 AM on October 05, 2004

well, after squealy's comment in the last thread about Reyes taking Pires' spot alongside T.Unreal, and two non-starts in a row, and with Lampard sitting there at a discount, it was time to move on.

posted by garfield at 09:03 AM on October 05, 2004

Top ten, w00t!

posted by Ufez Jones at 09:59 AM on October 05, 2004

a bit higher scores this week, eh? Henry scoring probably has something to do with that... I checked yesterday and I was up to 3rd! but forgot about good ol' Crystal Palace...

posted by sauril at 10:19 AM on October 05, 2004

Does anyone in the league not have Henry on their team? Just wondering.

posted by trox at 10:55 AM on October 05, 2004

Fat Buddha doesn't ... the daft Brummie.

posted by salmacis at 01:04 PM on October 05, 2004

garfield: I was going to replace Pires with Lampard as well, but I paused for two reasons: 1) Pires was rested after a midweek European game last week - that shouldn't apply this week, 2) I had to raise some money, so I made a switch in defence. I'm trying to limit myself to 1 transfer a week this year.

posted by salmacis at 01:06 PM on October 05, 2004

Riihilahti, Baby!!! Where is Mr. WorldCup2002 and all his "I'll see you in the Top 3" crap now? I believe he sits at #7 while I am theone breaking on the through ball into third. Ha!

posted by billsaysthis at 01:07 PM on October 05, 2004

Sonofa... Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! Thanks for lunch yesterday, bill. I don't feel so bad for making you pay. (Seriously, next one's on me.) OK, OK, back in the top 5 in two weeks. I think.

posted by worldcup2002 at 01:12 PM on October 05, 2004

Bloody Okocha and his gimpy groin.

posted by worldcup2002 at 01:14 PM on October 05, 2004

Bloody Okocha, bloody Gary bloody Megson, bloody. garfield mate, the minute you start listening to me you are fucked. I'm clueless. No one knows the extent of Jay Jay's injury so I'm sticking with him for the time being.

posted by squealy at 02:05 PM on October 05, 2004

Yes, it was a stroke of genius getting rid of Henry and using the proceeds to get Rooney, Lampard and Jaidi, who between them, managed about 8 ponts fewer than Hentry got on his own. Not to mention the points I lost for multiple tranfers. Not that any of it matters anymore.

posted by Fat Buddha at 02:22 PM on October 05, 2004

This coming week's an off-week anyway, so players that are crocked have an extra week to recover. So, I'm gonna hold on to my motley crew. Like salmacis, I'm trying to limit myself to one trade a week.

posted by worldcup2002 at 02:47 PM on October 05, 2004

oh great, now ya tell me.

posted by garfield at 02:58 PM on October 05, 2004

what's that about learning experiences, pain and gain, one step forward, two steps down? bloody hell. i finally took my own advice from a month back and picked up Robinson in goal, and picked up Jenas. After firing Pires. I'm finding one transfer a week is nearly impossible.

posted by garfield at 03:01 PM on October 05, 2004

I am sticking to the one transfer rule in general, with only one extra thus far this year (and of course the bum I sold scores a goal after the transfer).

posted by trox at 03:16 PM on October 05, 2004

One transfer is hard, though, as you often want to downgrade one player to get someone else at a different position and pay scale.

posted by sauril at 03:20 PM on October 05, 2004

No kidding. I'm always three transfers away from my "ideal" team.

posted by worldcup2002 at 03:37 PM on October 05, 2004

I always pick guys that do crappy... My advice, if you want to know who will perform on the weekend, just look at my team and don't pick anyone i have. You'll be in first place in a month.

posted by StarFucker at 03:46 PM on October 05, 2004

StarFucker: Giggs, Heinze and Taylor? I think Heinze is not showing the stuff to play fullback in the EPL after seeing him play a few times, although could be a question of time to settle in. Still, I don't expect him to be of much value this season. And Christian Ronaldo is going to be the fantasy points winger on ManUre this year.

posted by billsaysthis at 04:22 PM on October 05, 2004

I like the way Heinze is playing... But did anyone see the highlights of Chelsea/Liverpool? What the hell is Kirkland doing?! He was out of the box on every play near him! HOW is this the future of England goalkeeping?! He looked like a lost child at the Supermarket... Pathetic, it should have been Chelsea 5-0 at least.

posted by StarFucker at 04:29 PM on October 05, 2004

If you have FSW, watch the game tomorrow at 7pm Central. Get a load of the crap that is Kirkland. I love the English announcers though... If Dudek gives up a goal its, "Oh my, Dudek should have done better!" When Kirkland gives up a goal, "Well there was nothing Kirkland could do about that...the best keeper in the WORLD couldn't have saved that. Liverpool should thank Kirkland for still having a chance in this match..."

posted by StarFucker at 05:12 PM on October 05, 2004

HOW is this the future of England goalkeeping?! I don't think Sven agrees with that statement any longer, not when CK isn't even named third of three and one of the three is playing for Norwich! Maybe he should be a prime January target.

posted by billsaysthis at 07:14 PM on October 05, 2004

I think Arsenal are after Green to replace that clown Lehmann. Hmmm, Arsenal or Liverpool, I wonder which he'd choose?

posted by squealy at 03:29 AM on October 06, 2004

I'm not a big Lehmann fan, but "that clown" has yet to lose a league game. Seriously, he doesn't bother me nearly as much this year as he seems to be keeping his mouth shut more.

posted by trox at 08:48 AM on October 06, 2004

Considering Kirkland's played about 3 games in the last 2 years, I'm not surprised he's a little rusty. I still think Liverpool need a pacy, tall center back more than anything else now.

posted by sauril at 10:30 AM on October 06, 2004

Sauril, that is one assertion with which I cannot argue. And I think Lehmann is much more concerned about finally getting ahead of Ollie on the German squad than losing his place on Gunners.

posted by billsaysthis at 11:31 AM on October 06, 2004

Well that's how my Arsenal-supporting mates refer to him.

posted by squealy at 12:15 PM on October 06, 2004

Mine too (and me too until very recently). Then someone made that observation to me this weekend and I couldn't really refute it.

posted by trox at 01:45 PM on October 06, 2004

All i can say is, thankfully Arsenal is kicking some ass with some exciting games. And a curse on Maurinho and similar coaches!!

posted by StarFucker at 04:45 PM on October 06, 2004

Cygan's played five full games and they didn't lose any of them either. They're averaging over three goals a game this season. In those circumstances it's bloody difficult to lose. It's not like Arsenal actually need a new keeper, they obviously don't need anything. It doesn't mean it wouldn't improve them as a team though.

posted by squealy at 05:39 PM on October 06, 2004

StarFucker, I watched the match as you recommended and have to say that the conceded goal was Riise's fault. Kirkland did stray a bit much but in the end to no bad result. Also, what is about with the Xabi Alonso worship? That guy was useless on set pieces (four from the left side all over the touch line untouched) and nearly so on supplying the front--Cisse had decent launches on the few good balls he got. And Hyppia, did he fall off a cliff in the off season or what?!?!?!

posted by billsaysthis at 09:47 PM on October 06, 2004

I don't know about Riise's fault... But how many fucking times was the plonker off the line leaving the god damn goal wide open?! He is lucky that Chelsea didn't know how to kick the ball in the net.

posted by StarFucker at 11:53 PM on October 06, 2004

Damn, the one weekend I have unfettered access to Fox Sports World (thanks to a dog-sitting gig) and there're no EPL games. Son of a...

posted by Ufez Jones at 10:37 AM on October 07, 2004

Well there ARE EPL games, but they've already been played.

posted by StarFucker at 11:38 AM on October 07, 2004


posted by worldcup2002 at 12:43 PM on October 07, 2004

So, since we have to wait another week for EPL games, let's talk about England v Wales. Wales to score an upset? Anyone?

posted by worldcup2002 at 12:45 PM on October 07, 2004

Giggs with 2... It all depends on that wanker Errksson and the team he chooses. If he insists on Lampard and the Neville village idiots, then Wales have a chance.

posted by StarFucker at 01:10 PM on October 07, 2004

I hope not wc2002, old chap. You cannot imagine the misery I would have to endure, living as I do in the heart of the Welsh valleys. Don't forget the buggers beat Italy not so long back, and never understimate the passion of the Welsh, there is a word for it, Hywel, or Hoile or somesuch, quite untranslateable, apparently. Never underestimate the capacity of England to fuck up. It could happen. My God. It probably will happen!

posted by Fat Buddha at 01:17 PM on October 07, 2004

Robinson/James----I like them both. Terry-Ferdinand-Campbell-Cole------Yes, Terry can play wide, i don't see why not. Terry wide is still better than Carragher. Wright Phillips-Beckham-Butt-Cole Defoe-Owen This starting lineup will win against Wales. And if they don't win, Poland will be in first after this round as i don't see them dropping points against Wales or Austria.

posted by StarFucker at 02:33 PM on October 07, 2004

You'd play Butt ahead of Lampard? no way And where's ol' Rooney?

posted by sauril at 03:17 PM on October 07, 2004

Rooney is on the bench...waiting to come on for Defoe or Owen, depending on who looks more tired. AND YES! Butt for Lampard! Lampard runs around the pitch like a freaking little girl. Useless. He got so lucky last year with the amount of goals he scored, but if you look again at the goals he scored, you will notice that NONE of them came from a single individual effort on his part. They were all lucky rebounds or loose balls. Outside of those goals, he didn't really do much... And if you notice, the loose balls and rebounds aren't coming his way this year and he hasn't done shit.

posted by StarFucker at 03:33 PM on October 07, 2004

Then again, maybe having Rooney behing Owen and Defoe is even better and dropping Butt or Cole to the bench, or Beckham...except i know he won't drop Beckham.

posted by StarFucker at 04:49 PM on October 07, 2004

There's talk of Rooney playing at the top of the diamond, which I imagine will mean cole - rooney - lampard - beckham It's too bad that there's a surplus of talent at cb. how could you go wrong with any of Ferdinand, Campbell or Terry? Maybe it's time to play with wingbacks? owen - defoe lamp- rooney - beckham a cole - terry - campbell - ferdinand - swp still no target man, though

posted by sauril at 06:02 PM on October 07, 2004

sauril what's the point of listing wright phillips as a fullback rather than a winger? how does that make a difference in how he plays on the field, i mean.

posted by billsaysthis at 09:59 PM on October 07, 2004

Wingback, not fullback... You ever see Ashley Cole or Frank Queudrue come down the line and attack with crosses or what have you? I think thats a nice lineup sauril, but NOT LAMPARD! And you can leave Beckham out too...

posted by StarFucker at 10:02 PM on October 07, 2004

Shaun Wright-Philips playing in such a withdrawn role strikes me as a risk. Altho I see the attraction of his making overlapping runs, I doubt he will cover as far back as needed in a wingback position. 3-5-2? Cole-Ferdinand-Campbell SWP-Terry*-Beckham-Lampard-Giggs Rooney**-Owen (or Smith, on current form) * Terry is the defensive midfielder in this format, cleans up all the messes, stays back so the rest of midfield can go up, drops further back to beef up defence, but main goal is to keep the ball from even getting to defence. **Rooney has a free-ranging role, will tend to drop a little further back than Owen, who will be the target man. Rooney's job is to wreak havoc from all corners and let Owen take some of the attention off him, and to connect midfield with offense. Altho, the expectation with this more aggressive 5-man midfield is that the passes and crosses are coming in from all over, and there's more penetration down the wings. Also, the 5-man midfield, with the correct discipline (mark back, you bloody plonkers!) should be able to suffocate opposition attempts to play the ball through midfield. A man can dream ...

posted by worldcup2002 at 11:13 PM on October 07, 2004

Did I say Giggs! Ha! I meant Butt. All those Mancusians look alike to me. *koff* *runs off to take meds*

posted by worldcup2002 at 11:16 PM on October 07, 2004

And I know, Butt plays for Newcastle now. And Giggs and Butt are best buddies.

posted by worldcup2002 at 11:18 PM on October 07, 2004

Without Savage they're nothing.

posted by squealy at 03:24 AM on October 08, 2004

You='re joking right, squealy?

posted by StarFucker at 08:32 AM on October 08, 2004

bill, wingbacks don't have quite the defensive responsibilities of fullbacks, with 3 other defenders already there. What they do need however are an ability to run all day and speed. Things both swp and cole posess. wc2002, in your lineup, it essentially becomes 4-4-2 with Terry and Ferdinand in the middle and Campbell on the left? and why cole on the right? I'm assuming it's the other way around. oh, and for leading the charge, I'd go with Defoe over Smith.... One thing I've noticed about the england games I've seen over the last year or so is that Beckham does not want to play on the right. There's always acres of space there with him in the middle somewhere. Other teams in Euro were capitalizing on this. I dunno exactly where to put him, but I'd leave him out in favour of Lampard and Gerrard in the middle. Despite what Starfucker says :)

posted by sauril at 12:49 PM on October 08, 2004

Gerrard?! I mean, OK, once he's back from foot surgery, but not tomorrow! Yeah, sure, Cole and Campbell whichever side they play better, just not center. yeah, my 3-5-2 could be 4-4-2, but I just prefer a more aggressive line up, so I push Terry up in order for the midfield to be more forward, rather than sitting back. So you have three core midfield snapping at the opposition, rather than two fighting a losing battle and waiting for defence to pick up. The two wingers attack, not counterattack, and drop back when they lose the ball, not wait somewhere in front of their defence for some loose ball before they can attack. I'm thinking playing the defense in an advanced position because your midfield is aggressively pushing the attack, rather than sitting back with eight guys and then throwing a couple of long balls down the middle or some hopeful winger running all the way down the flank from defense so he can trip and lose the ball over the touchline. And yes, Beckham in the middle, never wing. As long as Gerrard is injured. If Stevie is in, Beckham is out. btw, did Scholesy retire from the national team? I can't remember. Once again, it's wishful thinking, but why not?

posted by worldcup2002 at 01:06 PM on October 08, 2004

Yes SF, I was joking to an extent. I do think any team used to having Savage in the centre is lesser for his absence though.

posted by squealy at 01:12 PM on October 08, 2004

I meant more long term, wc, with Gerrard. He's out for 2 months if I recall correctly. It's all just armchair managing anyway...

posted by sauril at 01:18 PM on October 08, 2004

Now, am i right in thinking that there is only one more round left?! 1 Blammos! 10045 2 goddam maddogs 10010 3 spacemen 9235 4 BillSaysThi sSCORES!!! 9200 5 Bosiak Bashers 7730 6 The Drifters 6265

posted by StarFucker at 11:35 PM on October 11, 2004

Oh, thats the MLS table by the way...

posted by StarFucker at 11:35 PM on October 11, 2004

Yes, next Saturday is the end of the MLS season. I sure fell off the pace, but then again who expected Ching and the Earthquakes to just stop scoring?

posted by billsaysthis at 12:25 AM on October 12, 2004

I did...

posted by StarFucker at 08:26 AM on October 12, 2004

Sure, Fucker, because you see injuries in your crystal balls, right?

posted by billsaysthis at 01:20 PM on October 12, 2004

Golden Balls...

posted by StarFucker at 02:15 PM on October 12, 2004

Golden BBs, he means.

posted by dusted at 02:53 PM on October 12, 2004

dusted, that was great. plinkers.

posted by billsaysthis at 05:40 PM on October 12, 2004

I told you Poland weren't going to drop any points this round... England barely manages a 1-0 over Assearlaeabjajskdafsj? Did Lampard play the whole game?

posted by StarFucker at 04:07 PM on October 13, 2004

According to Soccernet, he did.

posted by billsaysthis at 06:33 PM on October 13, 2004

Well boys, Premiership is back!!!

posted by StarFucker at 08:48 AM on October 14, 2004

Not a moment too soon. I don't know how much more I can take of AZearadg;lh;a vs Bzasdgoijah.

posted by worldcup2002 at 01:43 PM on October 14, 2004

Heh heh... I enjoyed it... There were some good games...

posted by StarFucker at 02:13 PM on October 14, 2004

USA 6-0 Panama!!!! Donovan is the man but, much as I hate to see him leave the Quakes, he really really does need to go play in Germany or the EPL to reach his best.

posted by billsaysthis at 03:02 PM on October 14, 2004

Johnson is pretty good too... I have him on my MLS team...

posted by StarFucker at 03:09 PM on October 14, 2004

The Burn/Quakes game on Saturday is big for two reasons: 1) to see who gets the final West playoff spot and 2) both Johnson and Ching are tied for the goal scoring crown for this MLS year. ntm, it's (I believe) going to be the final game the Burn play in Dallas proper. Yeah, I'll be there.

posted by Ufez Jones at 03:57 PM on October 14, 2004

Isn't Ching injured anyway?

posted by StarFucker at 04:06 PM on October 14, 2004

Ching played (started) this past Saturday for the Quakes. I think the reason he didn't get a call up is no one was certain when he'd be back. I'd like to see him and Johnson get the starting forward spots in the (meaningless) November game with Jamaica, the speed and strength would be a great combination.

posted by billsaysthis at 05:42 PM on October 14, 2004

Tough EPL week. But looks like Liverpool are going to pull of a win. Viva Alonso!

posted by worldcup2002 at 10:56 AM on October 16, 2004

WC, you are very correct and I'm definitely going to watch when FSW shows it tomorrow. What a relief to finally get an away win, esp. on a day when Chelski loses and ManUre can only run home with a scoreless draw. I can only gape in wonder at Sir Alex's decision to go with four strikers for the last half hour and to take CRonaldo out in favor of Scholes--as great a manager as he's been, is Ferguson reaching the point where he should leave with reputation intact?

posted by billsaysthis at 03:37 PM on October 16, 2004

Nice week for me...I'm a movin' on up!

posted by salmacis at 06:26 PM on October 16, 2004

My arse. It's yours, on a plate. Enjoy.

posted by Fat Buddha at 06:48 PM on October 16, 2004

shudder Now there's a mental image I could have done without before going to bed.

posted by salmacis at 06:50 PM on October 16, 2004

IF your starting keeper doesn't play, when do they 'substitute' in the backup in the points? I should have six points for Hoult, I think, but am not seeing them as yet.

posted by billsaysthis at 09:29 PM on October 16, 2004

bill, they do all the substitutions at the end of the gameweek, after all the games are played. Which means after Monday's game. I'm in the same boat, except that my sub's Green and he scored NINE points this week. WOOHOO!

posted by worldcup2002 at 12:07 AM on October 17, 2004

Great, mine is Mellberg and he scored zilch. I hate this fucking game.

posted by squealy at 08:20 AM on October 17, 2004

If it's any consolation squealy, I think my hopes of rising further in the table went up in smoke this week - it's all downhill from here.

posted by BigCalm at 04:07 PM on October 17, 2004

I know it's Monday tomorrow, but chin up Clammy. You're 67th out of 336,505 people, you just had a bad week.

posted by squealy at 04:27 PM on October 17, 2004

Anyone know why the hell Gabriel Heinze didn't play?!

posted by StarFucker at 07:43 PM on October 17, 2004

Because Quenton Fortune is GOD!!!

posted by billsaysthis at 07:54 PM on October 17, 2004

Also, maybe like some of the other South Americans he didn't get back from National Team duty in time to be over the jet lag.

posted by billsaysthis at 07:55 PM on October 17, 2004

The goddamn maddogs cheated and transferred all their players for the remaining game on Sunday winning the MLS Fantasy League by 5 points. Nicely done...not.

posted by StarFucker at 12:46 PM on October 18, 2004

Stupid Quakes....

posted by Ufez Jones at 01:04 PM on October 18, 2004

SF, if she figured out a weak point in the system that we missed, more power to her. I'm more peeved at finishing behind jasonspaceman.

posted by billsaysthis at 04:22 PM on October 18, 2004

Up to #5! And I have a shot at the top 3 this week. Oh yes. Calmy, where's this week's update? ;-)

posted by worldcup2002 at 07:09 PM on October 18, 2004

I was well aware i could do that bill, i just didn't.

posted by StarFucker at 09:09 PM on October 18, 2004

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