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June 22, 2007
Giambi will cooperate with M.L.B.'s Probe: Giambi said in a statement "......baseball will be best served by such a meeting." he would be 'candid about my past history regarding steroids."
posted by tommytrump to baseball at 01:23 PM - 8 comments
Now, obviously Giambi's no choir boy. But, I'm of the opinion that, although he was trying to duck and hide his guilt when the initial uproar started with steroids in baseball, that he has recently started to be more candid. Not that he's gone on Oprah or anything, but he has said more than almost anyone else that is active in baseball and has made his tacit admissions. It's for that reason that I don't think that it would be right for Selig to come down too hard on him. Although, I do find it curious that I don't have the negative feelings toward Giambi that I do for guys like Palmiero or McGwire. Why is that? I also am not a Bond's basher, though. Shutting up now.
posted by THX-1138 at 03:34 PM on June 22, 2007
I was secretly hoping Giambi would refuse to cooperate, just to stick it to The Man. The fact that Giambi has never tested positive, coupled with the illegal leak of his grand jury testimony, makes it very hard for me to take Selig's side in this matter. I know we're all supposed to be shaking in our fan-boots about the scourge that is PEDs, but frankly, I'm just not all that concerned about it. Baseball drafted a policy, implemented it, engage in routine, random testing, and to me, that's the end of it. Why the need to have an investigation? Why issue a report? I know, I know, because Congress shook a stern finger at Selig, and for some inexplicable reason, he seems to care what people think about him. Anyway, back to Giambi: It's totally insane that he's the only active player who's even tried to be sorta open about this issue, and the commissioner's office response is to threaten punishment? I'm usually the Selig apologist, but I can't defend this one.
posted by rocketman at 04:11 PM on June 22, 2007
... because Giambi’s Balco testimony is still not part of the public record. This is what it's all about. That is why we have to hear about this on the TV and read about it in the newspapers. Will this EVER end? First theres the Balco investigation, then a select few go in front of Congress and now Baseball is spending 10 million on this investigation!!! I bet they didnt even donate that much money to a New Orleans relief fund! I swear, we Americans know how to waste money. This is one of those subjects where maybe the truth really doesnt need to be known. I cant believe that baseball records are held to such Diestic standards that we HAFTA know who did what so we can pick and choose whos records are meaningful and whose arent. How do we know that Barry wouldnt have still broken Aarons record if he had taken roids or not? He was a perrenial triple crowner for a long time b4 all this...and I am not a big Barry fan for that matter either. I am just soo sick of this story. I wish the media, who I am not a big fan of would drop this, they dumb us down, show us half-truths and white lies, and then decide that cutting away from real news to watch Paris Hilton get hauled of to jail is what we really need to know. This isnt all the medias fault, after Congress decided that this was worthy of taking their time away from running the country, than and only then did Selig decide that he was going to come down hard on these "cheaters". Where was the MLB before this? They dragged there feet 4ever on this and now we are supposed to take them seriously about this. Too late the government beat you to it Bud, obviously the US government wasnt buying the "they changed the ball argument" like most of us did...
posted by dezznutz at 07:00 PM on June 22, 2007
Just ban any players in baseball who are good. It's the only way to be sure.
posted by Drood at 12:58 AM on June 23, 2007
Cheating to gain an advantage is part of all sports.If you knew who all the cheaters were,you might not watch anymore.In baseball they have used different things in different eras.Corking the bats and amphetamines come to mind but steroids is what they go after right now, but their are other ways to cheat. I think they pay enough by the damage they do to their health in the long run.The examples of people like Lyle Alzado should deter future abuse of roids! This Investigation will be a total waste of time and money and benifit no one.
posted by buckner86 at 01:18 PM on June 24, 2007
Cheating to gain an advantage is part of all sports. I will have to agree with you only to a certain point. While I do believe that something needs to be done about the use of steroids and other illegal drugs in the MLB. (and all other sports also not to single out MLB) I beleive this because they are illegal. Don't worry about banning the player for X amount of games, put him in jail for breaking the law. That type of cheating is against the law, doctoring a ball prior to pitching it is not. Let MLB deal with the bat corkers, and the ball doctorers. I also do not beleive that the US senate or congress should have anything to do with any investigations of the above. Thats what we have law enforcement for, and many levels of it too! I don't have the negative feelings toward Giambi that I do for guys like Palmiero or McGwire. Why is that? Good question, maybe it's because Giambi kind of appologized for it already. Palmiero was just an ass that rolled over on anyone and everyone to make a buck. However, McGwire did not help his cause by not saying anything at the hearings, but the only thing they ever found him with was legal in baseball, and society at the time. Could be one possible answer, ya never know.
posted by jojomfd1 at 01:30 AM on June 25, 2007
Giambi is in the same boat as all the Steriod Kids from McGuire&Palmiero to Bonds and Sosa. McGuire admitted taking Andro because it wasn't illegal at the time and hasn't been tested positive as Bonds hasn't . But All you have to do is look at them before and after or now and then to understand what they look and looked like use caused by something other than sweat and hard work in the gym. I don't like the drug use going on but until baseball decides to really go after them hard and fast with the best methods available then we have to live it. In my old opinion none of the so called users will make it to the Hall on a first ballot and some may never make it until all this steriod crap is settled.
posted by The Old Man at 05:10 PM on June 28, 2007
We need someone like judge Mountain Landis to whip this sport into shape!