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July 26, 2005
Manny Ramirez wants to be traded: according to Tom Verducci of Sports Illustrated. Citing a lack of privacy off the field, this is Manny's third trade request in four years. However, Manny is still one of the Major's best hitters and in in the end, probably won't be dealt.
posted by YukonGold at 03:56 PM on July 26, 2005
There are alot of Cubs fans who would like to see him picked up. Might even help with the curse. The Cubs are'nt really that bad , they just need help generating offense.What would they be giving up? They lost alot of money last year losing Sosa and Alou.
posted by volfire at 04:10 PM on July 26, 2005
or saved alot of money losing Sosa and Alou, which is what I meant.
posted by volfire at 05:08 PM on July 26, 2005
I don't really put much stock in this at all. It kind of seems like the usual "nothings going on, so lets overblow something to make a story" story. On top of that, it's Manny. He wanted to play for the Yankees, he did want to be traded, he pleaded to stay, he loves Boston, blah blah blah. After a while, this Manny stuff fails to phase you. And besides that, it doesn't make sense. I can't see a guy who is irritated over lack of privacy doing commercials, talking to the media, or doing photospreads with his family in local Boston Sunday Globe Magazines. If you're irritated with privacy, you don't do this. You don't pose for photos in your home with your toddler son and wife. He's got 3 years left on an 8 year contract and has said he wants to retire after this is all done.
posted by jerseygirl at 05:10 PM on July 26, 2005
Great point!!!!!!!! Chaulk one up for common sense!
posted by volfire at 05:20 PM on July 26, 2005
Just watch him tonight. Manny running half speed in an extra inning game to first and he was still safe. I say they throw him on waivers....again.....so that it shows nobody wants him.
posted by usfbull at 09:49 PM on July 26, 2005
Yes yes, he doesn't care and doesn't contribute. I mean, other than that laser he hit out for a 2 run homer. In fact, he hit that with a lazy swing, so let's waive him in the heat of a pennant race.
posted by yerfatma at 06:05 AM on July 27, 2005
Just watch him tonight. Manny running half speed in an extra inning game to first and he was still safe. I say they throw him on waivers....again.....so that it shows nobody wants him. Uh Boston wants him. The point is, in 5 years, he's said stuff like this a lot.
posted by jerseygirl at 07:11 AM on July 27, 2005
I'm from Boston, does that have anything to do with anything? My point was, they threw him on waivers already and nobody picked him up. If they trade him, the receiving team will require the Sox to pick up a large chunk of his salary, which will not happen. The "Manny being Manny" cliche is old and tired. I say he either demands a trade (not through rumors published in the Inside Track) or they play hardball with him and deal him to a non-divisional outpost like Kansas City or Milwaukee.
posted by usfbull at 08:10 AM on July 27, 2005
It's friggin' Manny Ramirez. Not to belittle the guy, but you ever ask a kid, "Do you want this or that?" "That." Then you reverse the choices and they still pick "That". That's Manny. On any given day, he'll say any damn thing and then forget about it or laugh it off a day later. Who the hell knows if he meant it, if he remembers it or if he cares?
posted by yerfatma at 08:35 AM on July 27, 2005
Yes, please - Throw Manny on waivers. There's no chance anyone would pick him up. Yes, no chance at all. No, don't think to hard about it, just do it. Throw Ortiz on there too while your at it. He's getting cocky to. Yeah, niether of them will get picked up. Asshat.
posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 08:59 AM on July 27, 2005
deal him to a non-divisional outpost like Kansas City or Milwaukee. Yes. You can have Carlos Lee, we'll take the problem of Manny Ramirez off your hands.
posted by rocketman at 09:02 AM on July 27, 2005
Asshat? The simple fact is he was put there once and nothing was done. And I never mentioned anything about Ortiz. Since I dropped $160 on his jersey more than proves that point.
posted by usfbull at 10:03 AM on July 27, 2005
Someone somehow turned a remark made my Manny into this. I don't buy this Manny wanting out bull because he feeds off of it too much to not like the publicity his private life gets. Plus, Manny is someone everyone can relate to... who hasn't disappeared from their position during a pitching change? or cut off a throw from the outfield... IN the outfield? Manny is still the MAN
posted by playball9 at 10:12 AM on July 27, 2005
Well, my (cheeky) point was that while that little experiment worked a year ago because of his hefty contract and sometime struggles. Now he'd be picked up in a heartbeat and a least a few teams wouldn't care about the Sox picking up any of his contract because it's length is now 30% shorter (3 years left). I bet the Nationals, Dodgers, Mets, Mariners (maybe), and Cubs would be happy to take advantage of that situation.
posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 10:13 AM on July 27, 2005
The simple fact is he was put there once and nothing was done. That was two years and ~40m dollars ago. He's owed 57m now with his 3 years left. Not chump change in the least, but much more palpable than 5 years ~97m.
posted by jerseygirl at 11:29 AM on July 27, 2005
That's still ~20m/yr. It would put all of those teams, except WASH, over 100m and the Mets/Dodgers would be into the luxury tax. Picking up that contract is dicey to say the least. As far as Manny, he's my guy, he can't do wrong... Pedro was the same way. But without Manny that team changes in a way I can't imagine (that's the homer in me). To steal a recent analogy... Red Sox + Ortiz - Manny = negative fun
posted by YukonGold at 12:05 PM on July 27, 2005
After watching Manny blow play after play, and then having to forgive him because of his bat. Just to have him turn around and do someting like this to the team and the fans. This is the biggest reason I am glad he isn't here in Cleveland anymore
posted by jojomfd1 at 12:25 PM on July 27, 2005
Maybe the only.... I'd take his 90RBI don't get me wrong
posted by jojomfd1 at 12:28 PM on July 27, 2005
90? 
I'm gonna say higher Bob!
posted by YukonGold at 12:49 PM on July 27, 2005
I am sorry he has 92 right now, of course he'll have more by the end of the season
posted by jojomfd1 at 01:13 PM on July 27, 2005
read the article you posted the link to yukon and you'd know where the "90" I was talking about was
posted by jojomfd1 at 01:18 PM on July 27, 2005
He won't add to his rbi total today, since his request for a day off was granted. While I used to love the guy's carefree attitude, if you watched last night's game, it typifies the year this team is having. They give away games they should win. That's fine if you are overmatched, but the Sox are anything but. Watching him lumber down the first baseline was infuriating. Damon gets all the credit for that win. It's just sad that his season is basically an audition for the highest bidder come Fall. Something has gotta give. And my ranting here is more out of frustration than common sense. I truly don't believe they will put him on waivers, but I need somewhere to vent, right? Maybe I'll put him on waivers on my fantasy team. Baby steps, baby steps......
posted by usfbull at 02:15 PM on July 27, 2005
last night is not the first time manny has lumbered to first!! he has done that since he has been in the league, but it has always been excused by his ability to produce runs. The real problem here is the fact that another team and city full of fans have to be affected by another 20 mill/yr PRO whining that he wants his privacy. He should have thought about that before signing all of those contracts, and deciding to play PRO baseball that is televised, and advertised, and not private. The teams should fine these players heavily for not trying during games, maybe that would solve some of the problems. Probably not for Manny, he is a dumb as a turnip
posted by jojomfd1 at 02:27 PM on July 27, 2005
thanks for being upset for us, jojo. heh.
posted by jerseygirl at 02:42 PM on July 27, 2005
he did it to us here in Cleveland before you guys. We can all just hope he sticks to his word that he is done in 3 years and then there is one less of them out there!!!
posted by jojomfd1 at 02:49 PM on July 27, 2005
Hey jojo, I'm glad Manny isn't in Cleveland also...I was especially happy he wasn't there last year, when he was helping my beloved Sox win a World Series. I'm also happy he's not there this year, as he's part of a good team that has a pretty fair chance of repeating. Sure, Manny's a flake. Look at any major league baseball team...hell, any professional sports team at all, and you'll find more flakes than a bowl of Wheaties. At least he's not Kenny Rogers. And he produces.
posted by The_Black_Hand at 03:11 PM on July 27, 2005
Boy jojo, you're really coming in guns a blazin'. I know I'll be glad to see 120 rbi's walk out that door, along with the confidence that with RISP the inevitable hit is just a pitch away. btw, I love this angle (Professional atheletes are overpaid and get everything that's coming to them...especially the bad part, how dare they have opinions or feelings on privacy or respect. If only more ballplayers were like [insert favorite hometown hero who took less money to stay and always runs hard] that's we need more of)
posted by YukonGold at 03:12 PM on July 27, 2005
If only we had Scott Posendnik on our team.
posted by yerfatma at 03:30 PM on July 27, 2005
He's the reigning World Series MVP - who gives a shit about his attitude? Reminds me of the concept of the 'All-Hustle' Team - that team of players who everybody seems to like because, damn it, they try hard and give it their all everyday. Because, basically, they suck. You show me a lazy overpriced star, and I'll show you a guy with talent, probably hitting in the middle of the order.
posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 03:57 PM on July 27, 2005
He's the reigning World Series MVP - who gives a shit about his attitude? Well, past a certain point, some kinds of attitude can certainly contribute to a player being a lot less effective -- and thus, a lot less valuable. Not that I think he's there yet, but I do think one of the dumbest things a baseball player could say publically is anything about wanting to be elsewhere. In any job, it's better/safer to say "I'm glad I left" after the fact rather than "I can't wait to go" before.
posted by lil_brown_bat at 04:04 PM on July 27, 2005
That's a developing angle in the Boston media, Weedy. People in the media are finally coming around to the fact that guys like Trot Nixon get away with bone-headed, Manny-quality mistakes with no hue and cry. And the media wants to know, "Why?" The answer is: because you guys portray them that way.
posted by yerfatma at 04:05 PM on July 27, 2005
Some relevant radio talk further down in this post.
posted by yerfatma at 06:01 PM on July 27, 2005
All those damn intrusions on his privacy while he's living at the ritz carlton during the season. We should feel really bad for him. Maybe those door men should look at the groumd and not even say a word to him while they hold it for his candy ass!!
posted by jojomfd1 at 07:19 AM on July 28, 2005
Do you have a source for that? Is his ass really Wonka-quality?
posted by yerfatma at 10:19 AM on July 28, 2005
Manny is still the man
posted by playball9 at 12:08 PM on July 28, 2005
''Manny hasn't told me anything about that. As a family, we love Boston and love living here."
posted by yerfatma at 01:46 PM on July 28, 2005
Lucchino confirms trade request.
posted by usfbull at 02:04 PM on July 28, 2005
posted by dusted at 04:29 PM on July 28, 2005
/cues ominous strings "Tune in next time . . . "
posted by yerfatma at 05:30 PM on July 28, 2005
Speaking through a family friend, Juliana told us she had wanted to keep the good word under wraps a while longer, but Manny couldn't contain himself. ''Secrets aren't the Ramirez family. We want Red Sox Nation to know us," Juliana said. This also came out of that same paragraph, yerfatma. Sounds like if he wants more privacy he should shut his mouth more also.
posted by jojomfd1 at 09:33 PM on July 28, 2005
Does Manny miss Pedro that much ? They looked like a pair of homo's last year , same stupid hairstyle , giving smiles to eachother in the field . Maybe the post game showers just havn't been the same this year .
posted by evil empire at 07:09 PM on July 29, 2005
lol, nobody to keep picking up the soap?
posted by jojomfd1 at 01:14 AM on July 30, 2005
Appears the Red Sox are pretty serious, huh? Good riddance. I know he's a great player, but damn it, you can't have a guy bitching like this every season. Move his salary, pick up some young talent and get on with it. For Christ sake's, just keep the Yankees out of it.
posted by wfrazerjr at 11:30 AM on July 31, 2005
The worst part of all of this, David Wells was on TV yesterday and actually made sense, saying manny is bieng an idiot.
posted by jojomfd1 at 04:54 PM on July 31, 2005
Who will take his contract? If you could have him for nothing on waivers why would you give something up for him? It'll be interesting to see if this is in the Boston papers tomorrow, I'm assuming it's in today's SI.