April 04, 2005

The Haters: I don't know if I completely agree with this guy, but he seems to think it may be ok for North Carolina to lose the game tonight (for a variety of reasons). Don't you play the game to win championships? On the other hand, UNC has 4 Championships and a ton in conference so they obviously value these opportunities. Lots of back and forth in their comments section and a pretty good read, too.

posted by newage38 to basketball at 11:06 AM - 14 comments

UNC does not have 4 championships. They have three ('57, '82, '93) and a meaningless award from the Helms Foundation. And the only people who claim the latter are myopic Heels fans.

posted by mbd1 at 11:14 AM on April 04, 2005

Unless they have long term sucess, recruiting suffers. That's just a fact. IMHO, we'll hear in a few years that UNC has been charged with a slew of recruiting violations.... They're recruiting too many out of state guys, and competing with programs I know have some, ummm, side benefits arranged by Alumni.

posted by LostInDaJungle at 12:10 PM on April 04, 2005

Bad rhetoric. Grey text. Black background. Wonderful arguments like this: the Carolina program was built upon a foundation of winning games, winning together Now that's deep. I wonder why the other programs haven't tried this approach of winning games?

posted by DrJohnEvans at 01:00 PM on April 04, 2005

Only 3 titles? Quick, count the number of programs with more in the last 50 or so years: UCLA, check. Duke, Check. Kentucky, Check. Who else? Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?

posted by trox at 02:50 PM on April 04, 2005

OK, I'm sure I missed one (or even two) but that's still pretty elite company.

posted by trox at 02:50 PM on April 04, 2005

Tonight's game shall establish the fact that the Big 10 conference is stocked with mediocre teams, pretenders. Yes, 3 of the final 8 were Big 10, which was a result of a combination of fortunate matchups and a bit of good luck. Big 10 was weak in inter conference play this season, and tonight's game will not be closer than 8 points.

posted by mayerkyl at 03:27 PM on April 04, 2005

How would a loss to the #2 team in the nation, which clearly has more talent and athleticism establish that the Big Ten is full of a bunch of nothing?

posted by Wallzatcha at 04:13 PM on April 04, 2005

Yeah, Big Ten sucks, you only made it to the National Championship game.... Ha, Ha. If that proves the Big Ten sucks, what does it say about the SEC, ACC, WAC, LSD, and BET??

posted by LostInDaJungle at 04:33 PM on April 04, 2005

1 Team = maybe luck 2 Teams = getting somewhere 3 Teams in the elite eight = Helluva lor mote than just some luck.

posted by jmd82 at 05:03 PM on April 04, 2005

I stand corrected, the margin was less than 8. I apologize. Congrats to the runners up.

posted by mayerkyl at 11:32 PM on April 04, 2005

mbd1, I think I read somewhere that UNC also won in 1984. According to the article, some never before heard about guy with the name of Michael Jordan was playing at the time. (I really don't meant to be a smartass, I really did read an article about this...it is NOT because I already knew about it. The article could actually be incorrect.) Anyway, if they won in 1984, then according to your posting, their total WOULD equal four. Alas, my beloved Tigers did not even make it to the tourney, so I will just have to congratulate the Tar Heels.

posted by BigAl4Auburn at 12:57 AM on April 05, 2005

They didn't win in 1984. Georgetown won in 1984. UNC lost to Indiana in the regional semifinal.

posted by Revisited at 08:45 AM on April 05, 2005

Probably thinking of '82.

posted by trox at 09:33 AM on April 05, 2005

Helms Foundation recognized them as the best team in the country in 1924 (or something like that). School claims it as a title. I see it recognized on TV sometimes as a legit title, and other times not, so who knows. 4 or 5, still pretty good.

posted by newage38 at 09:08 PM on April 06, 2005

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