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April 29, 2003
Top European clubs want a share of World Cup profits: Guess it really is all about the ka-ching, even over in Europe, as the G-14 come out and say what everybody understood for years: We make the players suitable, we pay them, we take the risk when they play for national teams, we lose out when they're too tired to make it through the winter months, so give us our cut of the lucre. I wonder how FIFIA will respond; do you all think the G's have a shot?
posted by billsaysthis to soccer at 02:43 PM - 17 comments
What the g14 want they usually get
posted by dng at 02:50 PM on April 29, 2003
I'm all in favour of this, as long as they extend it beyond the G14. We have internationals in our reserves as well as those in the first team, so if they are going to be compensating clubs then we deserve our share. Extend it to the U21s, and the rest of the international callups too. This might take a lot of the heat out of the club vs country debate.
posted by squealy at 06:15 PM on April 29, 2003
I'm all in favour of this, as long as they extend it beyond the G14. Exactly...
posted by StarFucker at 06:25 PM on April 29, 2003
Crap, I don't even know what the G14 is, can someone explain? That said..."Maybe this will give them a lever in negotiating fewer national team and FIFA competitions though." ... I'm definitely against that.
posted by Ufez Jones at 11:47 PM on April 29, 2003
G14 is the biggest clubs in Europe, rather along the lines of those G7? summits of European leaders.
posted by squealy at 02:38 AM on April 30, 2003
And what would River Plate, Santos, and Boca Juniors have to say about this?
posted by trox at 08:22 AM on April 30, 2003
G14 is the biggest clubs in Europe, rather along the lines of those G7? summits of European leaders. squealy, you Euro-centric backwater bumpkin, the G7/G8, includes the US, Canada, Japan and Russia, which, last I looked, did not belong in Europe.
posted by worldcup2002 at 10:56 AM on April 30, 2003
Russia's part of europe At least they are members of uefa Which also means Israel is part of europe too, I suppose
posted by dng at 11:02 AM on April 30, 2003
By UEFA membership, yes, but not by EU or G7/G8 standing.
posted by worldcup2002 at 11:17 AM on April 30, 2003
Hey daddio, I'm a sports fan not a fecking current affairs expert.
posted by squealy at 12:20 PM on April 30, 2003
Hey, you poor excuse for a brummy bog bandit, Current affairs? When were you born, tomorrow?
Since 1975, the heads of state or government of the major industrial democracies have been meeting annually to deal with the major economic and political issues facing their domestic societies and the international community as a whole. The six countries at the first summit, held at Rambouillet, France in November 1975, were France, the United States, Britain, Germany, Japan and Italy. They were joined by Canada at the San Juan Summit of 1976 in Puerto Rico, and by the European Community at the London Summit of 1977. From then on, membership in the G7 was fixed, although 15 developing countries' leaders met with the G7 leaders on the eve of the 1989 Paris Summit, and the USSR and then Russia participated in a post-summit dialogue with the G7 since 1991. Starting with the 1994 Naples Summit, the G7 met with Russia at each summit (referred to as the P8 or Political 8). The Denver Summit of the Eight was a milestone, marking full Russian participation in all but financial and certain economic discussions; and the 1998 Birmingham Summit saw full Russian participation, giving birth to the G8 (although the G7 continued to function along side the formal summits). At the Kananaskis Summit in Canada in 2002, it was announced that Russia would host the G8 Summit in 2006, thus completing its process of becoming a full member. 1975! Hello! 1998 Birmingham summit! Hello!
posted by worldcup2002 at 12:43 PM on April 30, 2003
Here's the actual G14 (I think the G stands for Greedy Bastards) member list, which is actually made up of 18 teams! Crazy Europeans. Anyway, it looks like they started at 14 and just added Arsenal, Bayer Leverkusen, Valencia and Lyonnais Sauce. SPAIN (3): FC Barcelona, Real Madrid CF, Valencia CF ITALY (3): AC Milan, FC Internazionale Milano, Juventus FC NETHERLANDS (2): AFC Ajax, PSV (I'm guessing that would be Eindhoven) UK (3): Arsenal FC, Liverpool FC, Manchester United FC (how'd they get in?) GERMANY (3): Bayer 04 Leverkusen, FC Bayern Munchen (that would be Bayern Munich to us non-Germans), Borussia Dortmund PORTUGAL (1): Futebol Clube do Porto FRANCE (3): Olympique de Marseille, Olympique Lyonnais, Paris Saint-Germain (Why so many Olympixies? Mmmm, I feel like some cream sauce ...) Read the Greedy14 history:
To go back to its very beginnings (around 1998), the G-14 was born out of informal and occasional meetings of clubs, who, by their nature, found themselves jointly involved in the context of international competitions. Originally, they were 8 in number, all having in common the fact that they had won at least 5 titles at continental level (European Cup, Cup Winners' Cup, UEFA, Champions League, etc.). Little by little, conscious of the benefit and interest of these meetings, these 8 clubs invited others whose sporting performances were comparable to join them. Finally, the 14 clubs thus brought together, unanimously decided to formalise this association, which has been regularly featured in the media and the football world in general. The G-14 was officially established in November 2000. 11) Reasons for G-14 Expansion G-14 took a decisive step in its development with an unanimous vote to invite the following clubs to join the group: - Bayer 04 Leverkusen (Germany) winners of one UEFA CUP title. - Valencia CF (Spain) winners of one UEFA Cup Winners' Cup title. - Arsenal FC (England) winners of one UEFA Cup Winners' Cup title. - Olympique Lyonnais (France) Although several clubs have made applications to join the Grouping in the past, G-14 founding member clubs came to the conclusion that in order to maintain G-14's basic philosophy, dynamism and vision of football, expansion by invitation may be the most appropriate measure to ensure the Grouping has the strength to meet future challenges. The four clubs invited have expressed themselves satisfied and enthusiastic about joining G-14. The Grouping will maintain the name G-14, in recognition of the pioneering role which the 14 historic clubs played in founding the Grouping. It is also clear that G-14 is becoming an ever more recognized player on the international club football scene. Within the overall guidelines regarding Group development, the policy of expansion aims to: - encourage the Group's dynamism by demonstrating its open spirit - reinforce the position of G-14 clubs in the market place - increase the relevance of G-14 It is therefore natural that the first clubs invited to join G-14 are from England, France, Spain and Germany. As for any possible future expansion, the Grouping does not exclude opening itself to clubs from leagues not currently represented in G-14.
posted by worldcup2002 at 01:02 PM on April 30, 2003
That's very nice wc2002 but of course if you'd bothered to look at my link properly you'd know who the members of the G14 were anyway. :-P
posted by squealy at 01:26 PM on April 30, 2003
If by "looking", you mean squinting at tiny unnamed faded logos to identify the team and/or scrolling over each little feckin' logo to then find out what each team was, then guilty as charged. I'm too busy keeping up on current affairs to do this. Of course, the direct link that I provided or a simple list of all the teams would have been more effective. Bosten mornin!
posted by worldcup2002 at 01:41 PM on April 30, 2003
No, I meant clicking on the G14 Members page you soft yank twat. Ufez didn't ask who the members were, but what the G14 was.
posted by squealy at 01:51 PM on April 30, 2003
Soft yank twat!! HAHHAHHAHAA!
posted by StarFucker at 02:15 PM on April 30, 2003
I don't know footie politics near well enough to have a good answer but somehow I usually think people who're getting money try to keep it. So probably not. Maybe this will give them a lever in negotiating fewer national team and FIFA competitions though. And after all, we don't have neough soccer category posts lately.