August 02, 2006

Hidden: Palmerio's gone, will he make it into the Hall of Fame: thought this might be a good subject for debate.

posted by ptluigi to baseball at 03:08 PM - 6 comments

Didn't we sort of already discuss this when he was suspended... and any other time an alleged steroid user's name comes up in conjunction with HOF? Is there a new angle we've missed?

posted by jerseygirl at 03:12 PM on August 02

Fun article. Keep on these losers until they cut it out. I'm sure they check the Filter. Its wonderful when these cheaters get exposed. I can't wait for Baroid to get his (not the roids those are all gone).

posted by T$PORT4lawschool at 03:27 PM on August 02

I Think he should make, cause I Honestly think he was clean until last season But if he didnt make tothe HOF I wouldnt Disagree

posted by your-money9388 at 03:46 PM on August 02

Actually, I don't think steriods users are a bunch of greedy, vacuous, immoral men. I think they're inaccurately painted with such a brush. In some respects, I pity the man who feels that the only path to success lies in the betrayal of the body. I mean, no one calls for Schwartzenegger's impeachment. Or suggests that his previous steriod use is indicative of his moral character. It was just "part of his job at the time", wasn't it? He gets a pass. Lots of others get passes, too. Like wrestling fans who cry everytime another one of their heroes dies, but never questions why 35-year old gym rats have heart attacks. Because steriods aren't evil - hell, steriod use isn't evil. It's using it in baseball that's evil. I think the sad reality is that performance enhancers are part of everyone's job if they are athletes, and that the immorality of this sordid play can be found in the coaches, owners, doctors and trainers who encouraged the practice both directly and indirectly. Steriods seem to me to be a natural result of the demand for the long ball, the 99 MPH heater and the World Series win. Not that I think Raffi's a HoFer. Nope. Hey if he lives to see the other side of 60, he should be happy. It's the rest of us that should be sad that he isn't going to be included.

posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 03:54 PM on August 02

well put weedy, my sentiments exactly

posted by ptluigi at 04:07 PM on August 02

There is no record of how long this was going on unless you believe Jose Canseco. I am not happy that these people feel this is the best way to get to the top, nor do I believe they should be remembered for being good or great after using this garbage. On the other side of it, knowing it's illegal and yet your still using means you are ready to face whatever consequences that follow getting caught. In that, I will always rememeber them for good things they did as well as never forget that something that may have ruined their bodies got them to the top. I just wish for older days when spit balls and pinetar were the problems. Weedy, you are a very wise man and I appreciate your thoughts. Just my opinion, have a nice day!

posted by melcarek69 at 04:20 PM on August 02

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