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June 19, 2006
Former MLB player David Segui admits to using hGH!:
However, that's not the whole story.
No, it doesn't. And I have a feeling MLB would find it tough to sell that stance to the Player's Association. But Segui must have known MLB wouldn't have approved it since he didn't even bother to ask.
posted by ?! at 12:25 PM on June 19, 2006
My god, when will it end!?! Sigh, the record book is forever tarnished! We'll never be able to trust any of these totals as they are the product of a generation of cheaters. Oh wait, but Segui was a marginal player - decent, but not an all-star and with very little power. Next thing you're going to tell me is that HGH doesn't help you hit a curve ball. Or that it isn't a steriod. Well, I don't go in for this whole accuracy deal. Sell that shit to the people who pay more than lip service to this debate. I'm convincing the tourists!
posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 01:17 PM on June 19, 2006
I'm sure he was just using it for hair restoration.
posted by irunfromclones at 02:09 PM on June 19, 2006
It's funny, but all of the players involved in this doping scandal who have been caught dead to rights up to this point have been white guys. White guys, and fairly marginal players (except for Palmero). Viewed that way, maybe Bonds does have a point about the role that race is playing in his ongoing scrutiny.
posted by outside counsel at 02:11 PM on June 19, 2006
Listen... it's Monday. I'm cutting back on coffee in an attempt to find inner peace and zen without artificial stimulants... Captains log: My journey to zen has been fruitless, wrapped in exhausted, and garnished with a headache. So, please don't derail this into a race issue or a Bonds issue.
posted by jerseygirl at 02:18 PM on June 19, 2006
Under the category of "Be Careful What You Wish For:" Would Grum be busted for taking female growth horomones? You ASSWIPE! Racism out. Sexism in. JG, you don't have to quit coffee altogether. You're just not allowed to drink from the "Leaded" pot anymore.
posted by BullpenPro at 02:39 PM on June 19, 2006
JG: Thanks for reminding me to make more coffee.
posted by LostInDaJungle at 02:43 PM on June 19, 2006
Would Grum be busted for taking female growth horomones? You ASSWIPE! It would seem that I have my own low-intelligence stalker, who follows me from thread to thread to insult me. I'm so honoured.
posted by grum@work at 04:26 PM on June 19, 2006
Please, please, please start charging $10 for memberships. Make it cost someone to do such idiotic comments. (Actually, I'm pissed I don't have a low-intelligence stalker. Well, except for my ex.)
posted by ?! at 04:40 PM on June 19, 2006
?!: Pay me a dollar and I'll cut/paste FtRS's comments into emails and mail them to you under a different name. You can show your friends and pretend it's a stalker.
posted by grum@work at 04:42 PM on June 19, 2006
It does seem intresting that the only ones caught with roids were marginal players byt the ones widley ASSUMED to be using are big name players. I tend to agree that no amount of muscle can overcome a perfectly thrown 0-2 splitter all the time.
posted by blakrain at 04:48 PM on June 19, 2006
Well, it's so very early blakrain. Look how many marginal players were caught with steroids before they got Palmeiro. My concern with the doctor's note sort of excuse is one that can never be satiated I presume. If "I have a note from my doctor" becomes an excused use of the drugs, I imagine it won't be hard for some players hellbent on using them to find marginal doctors to write them a script, thus vouching for a legit ailment. It's not that difficult for abusers of painkillers to do it...
posted by jerseygirl at 05:18 PM on June 19, 2006
see his name's funny 'cause it's FtheRedSUX get it? SUX?? HA! steroids and PED's all over pro and amateur sports. film at 11. on preview: If "I have a note from my doctor" becomes an excused use of the drugs, I imagine it won't be hard for some players hellbent on using them to find marginal doctors to write them a script, thus vouching for a legit ailment. It's not that difficult for abusers of painkillers to do it... excellent point and I agree and doubt it will be tough to find willing doctors tho it will be easy to spot them in their new field level season ticket seats...
posted by JohnSFO at 05:23 PM on June 19, 2006
How come all the cool people get stalkers and I don't? I really don't know how thorough a MLB physical is, but I've never heard of a HGH level blood test in my life. What was so wrong with Segui in the first place to have this test done, and have this drug prescribed?
posted by wingnut4life at 05:46 PM on June 19, 2006
How come all the cool people get stalkers and I don't? wingnut, Your breath stinks and your mother dresses you funny. Your welcome!
posted by Termite at 05:58 PM on June 19, 2006
If "I have a note from my doctor" becomes an excused use of the drugs, I imagine it won't be hard for some players hellbent on using them to find marginal doctors to write them a script, thus vouching for a legit ailment. It's not that difficult for abusers of painkillers to do it... I think this goes to the crux of the matter. Are people against steroids, etc. because they are illegal, which has supposedly been the big argument for congress to get involved? Cause they are not illegal if they are prescribed by a doctor. Or are people against steroids because they supposedly give a player an advantage of some sort? And if that's the case, then where do you stop?
posted by graymatters at 06:05 PM on June 19, 2006
The issue for me is they are banned by baseball.
posted by jerseygirl at 06:22 PM on June 19, 2006
How come all the cool people get stalkers and I don't? Don't be jealous. Grum's about to lose his.
posted by justgary at 07:49 PM on June 19, 2006
It would seem that I have my own low-intelligence stalker, who follows me from thread to thread to insult me. So, the job's been filled already? You could have at least given me a call. How come all the cool people get stalkers and I don't? Don't be jealous. Grum's about to lose his. Now that's funny. I imagine it won't be hard for some players hellbent on using them to find marginal doctors to write them a script 
posted by The_Black_Hand at 05:58 AM on June 20, 2006
"Hi everybody!" - Dr. Nick As for white guys getting caught, both Palmeiro and Segui are of Latin descent. As for marginal players getting caught, no surprise there. They are the ones for whom any advantage is crucial to their earning a paycheck. They are the ones most likely to be A) looking to level the playing field and B) to be thrown under a bus by a fellow player, team, union, etc. I hope more players come out. Pudge, Bret Boone, where are you?
posted by vito90 at 11:55 AM on June 20, 2006
How come all the cool people get stalkers and I don't? If you manage to showcase wit and biting humor in your comments like jerseygirl you may be able to start a cult among the five digit numbers. Or I could just find my way to Dundee and camp outside your house.
posted by Ying Yang Mafia at 05:04 PM on June 20, 2006
If your mom let you cross the street we'd all have restraining orders.
posted by yerfatma at 07:37 PM on June 20, 2006
One of the most interesting points of the article was this line: As for any player's chance of receiving an exemption for HGH, a baseball spokesman said "that would be difficult to imagine." So if a player (like David Segui) had a medical need for hGH, he would not be given an exemption by baseball and would therefore suffer the penalties under the current anti-doping strategy. That doesn't seem right.