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January 25, 2006
The Ten Most Hated Athletes: This should bring up some serious discussion........
www.gq.com
posted by dbt302 at 10:58 AM on January 25, 2006
I agree with most of the choices TO definitely, Bonds is a no brainer, Busch no doubt, but Phil Mickelson? A pro fisher? Where is Artest going to fall? I think the authors need some performance enhancing drugs before they attempt another article.
posted by bobrolloff at 10:59 AM on January 25, 2006
The list, without having to click through an annoying 7 pages.. 10. Lleyton Hewitt 9. A.J. Pierzynski 8. Phil Mickelson 7. Bonzi Wells 6. Michael Iaconelli 5. Kobe Bryant 4. Curt Schilling 3. Kurt Busch 2. Barry Bonds 1. Terrell Owens
posted by blarp at 11:03 AM on January 25, 2006
Jeremy Roenick is in my top 3. JR, you can KISS MY ...
posted by njsk8r20 at 11:08 AM on January 25, 2006
Michael Iaconelli? Is bass fishing even a sport? Phil Mickelson? What, are Gargill and/or Penn stalking his wife or something? And yeah, no Artest? No Bertuzzi? No Spree? No Rocker? No Clemens?
posted by chicobangs at 11:12 AM on January 25, 2006
I'm totally going with the Phil Mickelson nomination -in fact, he should be higher on that list. The list isn't about who's an asshole, it's about who is hated by their peers - so Phil chould probably have been top of that list.
posted by JJ at 11:20 AM on January 25, 2006
I would like to disagree with bobrolloff, TO should not be #1. I mean it was very disrespectful the way he handled his problems with the Eagles' organization, but most famous athletes have had a falling out with their organization. At the very least, Owens should be #3. I can think of two athletes who are worse than him.
posted by JohnC at 11:23 AM on January 25, 2006
Man! I had no idea about more then half of those listed.
posted by ProSam at 11:25 AM on January 25, 2006
Phil Mickelson? What, are Gargill and/or Penn stalking his wife or something? It just goes to show media bias and how it influences the masses. I made the same comment in a Barry Bonds thread. Everyone HATES Barry. And really, what has Barry done? I'll tell you what he's done...he's treated the media like crap and they repay him by trashing him every chance they get. The sheep then fall in line and HATE the man worse than guys run over halloweeners, attack old men with golf clubs, or machete up their employees. That's all you hear about is how bad Barry is because that's all the media talks about. Yet guys like Mickelson, and Cal Ripken (who was one of the biggest asses in sports) are held as media darlings and because of that everyone thinks they're super people! Half the people on this list I had no idea they were as bad as presented simply because the media want us all to know how bad Terrel and Barry are.
posted by bdaddy at 11:27 AM on January 25, 2006
A side-bar in the magazine lists five honorable mentions: 1. Jeff Kent 2. Randy Johnson 3. Rasheed Wallace 4. A-Rod 5. Danny Fortson Artest, who appears to be a frontrunner for the SF top ten, doesn't even get honorable mention. I'm not a huge Ripken fan -- I lived in DC for a while and got tired of Tom Boswell kissing his butt -- but I've worked with the guy and he didn't seem all that bad. I did hear from a friend of mine who used to direct Royals baseball for TV that George Brett is the biggest horse's ass in sports, but having worked with him too I have nothing to confirm it.
posted by BullpenPro at 11:29 AM on January 25, 2006
Mickelson's no saint but I always thought Vijay was the biggest jackass in the PGA.
Danny Fortson as an honorable mention?! Who the fuck is Danny Fortson? Career averages of 20 min/game, 7 reb/game, and 8 pts/game should make you ineligible for a list of this sort.
posted by redsnare at 11:39 AM on January 25, 2006
Half the people on this list I had no idea they were as bad as presented simply because the media want us all to know how bad Terrel and Barry are. So don't believe the media with terrel and barry, but do believe this list done by this particular MEDIA outlet? Sounds like you're just picking and choosing.
posted by justgary at 11:44 AM on January 25, 2006
I'm surprised that Greg Maddux didn't make that list. You'd think killing prostitutes for sport would put you on a "hated" list.
posted by grum@work at 11:44 AM on January 25, 2006
Grum - HA! This was a good list...the only omission that really sticks out is Artest. I like the little anecdotes in there that I'd never heard about like Phil's Labor Pager and A.J.'s Groin Punch.
posted by vito90 at 11:48 AM on January 25, 2006
All top 10 lists are skewed towards who voted or were polled for it. This particular list is supposed to be the feelings of the athletes/competitors' peers not the general public. I am sure if everyone here at Spofi made a top 10 list of most hated athletes, they would all be different. I personally found the article quite good, nice link dbt302. :o)
posted by Steeler_Fan at 11:51 AM on January 25, 2006
Don't worry about Maddux - he'll always be #1 in our hearts. Is there anyone else who can consistently throw 200 above average innings, play gold glove defense, and knock off a hooker every other road trip? We all know the editors were afraid of including him anyways.
posted by mbd1 at 11:54 AM on January 25, 2006
Not one mention of the dirtiest and most hated player in the NFL, Bill Romanowski! Romanowski has been involved in numerous altercations with both teammates and opponents. In 1989, while with the 49ers, he brawled with offensive tackle Harris Barton after Barton had taken exception to a hit Romanowski had made on wide receiver Jerry Rice during a practice session. In 1995, while with the Eagles, he was ejected from a game — and subsequently fined $4,500 — for kicking Arizona Cardinals running back Larry Centers in the head. Three more incidents occurred during the 1997 season while he played for the Broncos: In the first, he was fined $20,000 after his hit on then-Carolina Panthers quarterback Kerry Collins in a preseason game resulted in Collins sustaining a broken jaw that kept him out of action that entire season; in the second, Romanowski spat in the face of 49ers wide receiver J.J. Stokes in a regular-season game played in December on a Monday night; and in the third — in the AFC Championship game — Romanowski almost precipitated a full-scale brawl after he taunted Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Kordell Stewart following an interception Stewart had thrown in the third quarter of the game, won by Denver. Two years later, while still with the Broncos, he was fined a total of $42,500 for three illegal hits plus a punch thrown at Kansas City Chiefs tight end Tony Gonzalez, and was also fined an undisclosed amount for throwing a football at Bryan Cox of the New York Jets, the ball hitting him in the crotch area. And no votes for the Ty Cobb of the modern era!? Sosa was notorious for monopolizing the music in the locker room (it's normally the custom in the majors for the team's starting pitcher that day to select the music that is played in the locker room). He would superstitiously play pop music deemed undesirable by most of his teammates or salsa music at a very high volume, often refusing to turn it down (even on one occasion when then-teammate Joe Girardi was suffering from a migraine). Though unconfirmed, reliable sources have stated that catcher Michael Barrett, following up on a suggestion by pitcher Kerry Wood, destroyed the boombox with a bat. That action was viewed as symbolic of the end of Sosa's era with the Cubs.
posted by irunfromclones at 12:09 PM on January 25, 2006
Sean Avery seems to be the go-to hated guy in the NHL about now. On the ice for his his mouth, and off ice because that mouth is attached to Elisha Cuthbert's.
posted by gspm at 12:09 PM on January 25, 2006
#'s 1. 3. 5. 7. 9 Terrell Owens #'s 2, 4, 6, 8, 10 Barry Bonds
posted by Wrigley South at 12:15 PM on January 25, 2006
Curt Schilling? that's a real shocker
posted by erkno11 at 12:49 PM on January 25, 2006
redsnare is right... Vijay is the biggest ass on the PGA tour. I have never heard a golfer, commentator, or anyone say anything about Vijay except that he is a big old jerk. However; I agree with the comment that the media has a big influence on who the general people adore and hate. I am from Missouri and two of the biggest names in sports from this state are supposed to be first rate jerks...Ozzie Smith and George Brett. As far as the list...How does a bass fisher get on there. Plus Kurt Busch, how about Robby Gordon. At least Busch can keep his car on the track.
posted by mcstan13 at 12:50 PM on January 25, 2006
Help me out here - My google-fu doesn't reveal any connection between Maddux and hooker murder, which leads me to think that I am missing out an an in-joke. What gives?
posted by Joey Michaels at 12:51 PM on January 25, 2006
Well, all I learned from this was... #1 Playa Hater... David Cargill and Nate Penn.
posted by LostInDaJungle at 12:51 PM on January 25, 2006
I do agree with Wrigley South here...awesome list However I have to go with 1. Kobe Bryant 2. Ben Wallace 3. Barry Bonds 4. T.O. 5. Ron Artest 6. A-Rod 7. Rasheed Wallace 8. Tom Brady 9. Jon Starks 10. Colin Montgomerie
posted by jmbraun773 at 12:57 PM on January 25, 2006
media has a big influence on who the general people adore and hate. That's true to a certain degree. But these guys gave the media something to work with in the first place. My only regret is that a certain football player is being the center of attention, and we all know he loves it. Where ya at? Not the Super Bowl. HA!
posted by njsk8r20 at 12:57 PM on January 25, 2006
Here you go, Joey.
posted by mbd1 at 01:01 PM on January 25, 2006
So don't believe the media with terrel and barry, but do believe this list done by this particular MEDIA outlet? Sounds like you're just picking and choosing. true..I guess I should have left that last sentence out since I would say I'm not using this list to judge any of the guys. Just pointing out the example of how guys that are supposedly "good" have a bunch of stories that can be told about them that paint them in a very bad light. Just like guys that are supposedly "bad" can have things portrayed to make them appear much worse than they are. And which way the public views them is usually based on how the media portrays them.
posted by bdaddy at 01:02 PM on January 25, 2006
They forgot Robbie Savage.
posted by squealy at 01:13 PM on January 25, 2006
& Dennis Rodman!
posted by directpressure at 01:19 PM on January 25, 2006
Why is Tom Brady hated? Is this "hated by fellow athletes" or "our personal spite lists"?
posted by jerseygirl at 01:20 PM on January 25, 2006
jmbraun brady????
posted by meatsfactor at 01:23 PM on January 25, 2006
Help me out here - My google-fu doesn't reveal any connection between Maddux and hooker murder, which leads me to think that I am missing out an an in-joke. What gives? It's a well known fact to some of the people on SpoFi that publicly-acknowledged super-nice-guy Greg Maddux has a very dark and disturbing alternate personae. It's been reported by SpoFi members that he has killed hookers, jammed needles into puppies' eyes, punched nuns and taken all the candy from kids that visit his house on Hallowe'en. The fact that this is the first time you've heard of it can be attributed to a very calculated media campaign to keep his image as clean as possible.
posted by grum@work at 01:25 PM on January 25, 2006
If semi-recently retired athletes are included, Dennis Rodman would have to be there. Too bad there's not a list for the most hated sports writers, journalists, reporters, broadcasters,etc. We could have a field day with that one!
posted by Bury Bonds at 01:27 PM on January 25, 2006
Some of my least favorite that are not mentioned: ARod, pete Sampras, Keyshawn Johnson.
posted by bperk at 01:31 PM on January 25, 2006
BONDS is a jerk-off... hope something happens to him so AARON could keep his record...BONDS dont deserve shit. too bad he passed MAYS in HRs...BOUNDS couldnt wipe MAY's ass...thinks hes hot shit...
posted by no band waggon at 01:39 PM on January 25, 2006
Thank you, mbd1. I am a newcomer to the Filter, and in perusing the archives that is one thread I had missed. I want to congratulate you, and everyone here who participated in that discussion, for what may be the best REAL sports writing I have ever read. If you are new to SF and glossed over mbd1's link, go back, because it not only reveals the core of hardcore sports pseudo-journalism, it also FINALLY rightfully exposes the media whitewashing of Slick Greg's pecadillos and helps explain why Cal Ripken's wife calls him "Clean Sanchez."
posted by BullpenPro at 01:39 PM on January 25, 2006
why Ben Wallace jmbraun?
posted by the don at 01:42 PM on January 25, 2006
BOUNDS couldnt wipe MAY's ass Considering Mays is Bonds' godfather, could very well have been the other way 'round....
posted by BullpenPro at 01:44 PM on January 25, 2006
More than an AH, but a killer... OJ Simpson... Scum. I like to tee his head up..
posted by EllijayGADude at 01:49 PM on January 25, 2006
Joey -- with respect to Greg Maddux, when you get a chance, go read Derrek Lee's autobiography about the 2005 season, "Chasing the Triple Crown." He refers to a teammate "G.M." who hid his stash of meth in Jeromy Burnitz's rectum (at gunpoint, I should add) to avoid getting busted at O'Hare, resulting in Burnitz missing five games for what was publicly stated by the team to be turf toe but what everyone on the inside really knew to be meth burn in the ass cavity.
posted by holden at 02:01 PM on January 25, 2006
This list is Horrible. Lleyton Hewitt and Terrible OWens are the only men who deserve to be on this list. So does Barry onds, but not that high up. We here in L.A. (and most places out of Vince Carter Craterhead Land) beg to differ on Kobe. 81! Congrats Kobe, I'm a big fan of yours.
posted by Joe88 at 02:04 PM on January 25, 2006
Darius Kasparitus? Claude Lemieux? Cheap shot artists. Eric Lindros and father? My list only has hockey players....hmm, very interesting.
posted by GoBirds at 02:12 PM on January 25, 2006
this came from gq, which isnt best known for its sports coverage. but i think its a good list in spite of it. good post grum
posted by nyfan at 02:16 PM on January 25, 2006
He refers to a teammate "G.M." who hid his stash of meth in Jeromy Burnitz's rectum (at gunpoint, I should add) to avoid getting busted at O'Hare, resulting in Burnitz missing five games for what was publicly stated by the team to be turf toe but what everyone on the inside really knew to be meth burn in the ass cavity. Holden, check your facts. I didn't read the book, but the way I heard it Lee was referring to GM Jim Hendry, who was going to try to use the meth in an effort to get a center fielder from Giants GM Brian Sabean, reportedly Alex Sanchez. Also, I believe Burnitz's injury was written off as "flu-like symptoms." This story has nothing to do with Greg Maddux.
posted by BullpenPro at 02:21 PM on January 25, 2006
my personal spite list 10. T. O. 9. Tom Brady 8. Kurt Busch 7. Curt Schilling 6. Pedro Martinez 5. Todd Bertuzzi 4. Ron Artest 3. Stephan Marbury 2. Roger Federerererer 1. Martin Brodeur
posted by HATER 187 at 02:29 PM on January 25, 2006
Wow, Tom Brady? Phil Mickelson? Here is my list trying to incorporate, NFL, NBA, PGA, TENNIS, NHL...etc- I love this site- 1. Barry Bonds 2. Ron Artest 3. Alex Rodriguez 4. Terrell Owens 5. Ty Domi 6. Kobe Bryant 7. Justin Leonard 8. Leyton Hewitt 9. Smarty Jones (all the other lists had a shocker!) 10. Michael Waltrip
posted by thelakis at 02:30 PM on January 25, 2006
GoBirds, You forgot Mathew Barnaby and Tie Domi. I like Claude Lemieux but thats just the NJ fan in me. Daruis, definetly an AH. His name even sounds like a rectal disease. I'm surprised the writer didn't mention Chad Pennington. Maybe the media and him have patched things up? Hater, why all the animosity towards Marty, shouldn't that be directed towards Tampa Bay now?
posted by njsk8r20 at 02:39 PM on January 25, 2006
Here's my list, which I have given a heroic, extensive and (for me) unprecedented amount of thought: 1. Roger fucking Clemens 2. OJ fucking Simpson 3. Steve fucking Francis 4. Michael fucking Irvin 5. fucking Ronaldo 6. Eli fucking Manning 7. Lleyton fucking Hewitt 8. Bryan fucking Marchment 9. Bill fucking Romanowski 10. Vijay fucking Singh
posted by chicobangs at 02:41 PM on January 25, 2006
I feel a few people were left out. But my top ten is 1. t.o. 2. Todd Bertuzzi 3. Latrell Sprewell 4. Pedro Martinez 5. Ron Artest 6. Monty 7. Rafael Palmerio 8. Brett Boone 9. John Rocker 10.Claude Lemieux I dont know where one person got Ben Wallace from. He probably is one of the most loved NBA players. Secondly, what about Barry Bonds or Kobe. Why is everyone putting Kobe so high, no one knows exactly what happened in LA with Phil and Shaq and it must not of been that bad since Phil came back. And Tom Brady, come on he is the posterchild for the NFL because of his great personality and his ability to sell himself. Wow, I think everyone should rethink their lists and think of the athletes who are really bad for their particular sport. So, everybody back to the drawing board and come up with something that makes sense.
posted by smb871 at 02:43 PM on January 25, 2006
No Palmeiro????
posted by everett at 02:43 PM on January 25, 2006
Wow, I never knew any of that stuff about Maddux. I can't believe that he spent time smuggling cocaine out of Mexico in the corpses of kidnapped babies. Frankly, I'm stunned.
posted by Joey Michaels at 02:45 PM on January 25, 2006
I FORGOT: " Fuckin CHUCK NORRIS "
posted by thelakis at 02:46 PM on January 25, 2006
It would perhaps be significant to mention that NASCAR racing is not a sport, but entertainment, like pro wrestling. Even though pro wrestlers are more athletes than ANY auto driver from any age. I'd also beg to differ about fishing being a sport in the fact that some of the world's biggest lazy fatasses are fishermen(women). It's hard to imagine where sports and entertainment got so far spread apart, but it started around the time ESPN began. Poker, fishing, auto racing, and others too numerous to mention cannot really be considered, but there you have it, and we are stuck with it. But most of the list is right on the money, but they forgot quite a slew of NHL assholes, most of which are incorporated in the lists above.
posted by mrhockey at 03:03 PM on January 25, 2006
Good point about OJ and Michael Irving. A killer and a coke head, not exactly at the top of the popularity list.
posted by mcstan13 at 03:09 PM on January 25, 2006
Really, no one hates "I have never taken steroids... Period!," Palmeiro???
posted by everett at 03:12 PM on January 25, 2006
No one mentioned Mike Tyson at all. Im very suprised. Fuck Brodeur
posted by tupacalypse at 03:25 PM on January 25, 2006
Tyson's not an athlete anymore...
posted by cl at 03:31 PM on January 25, 2006
Yeah but if you hate Palmiero then you cannot forget to throw in the most egotistical prick to ever play baseball and King of the Roid Nation ... Jose Canseco
posted by mcstan13 at 03:32 PM on January 25, 2006
At least Canseco came clean.
posted by everett at 03:35 PM on January 25, 2006
10. Patrick Roy (cries like a girl) 9. Nancy Kerrigan (cries like a girl) 8. Bernie Kosar (cries like a girl) 7. Bruce Jenner (plain freaky) 6. Palmeiro (cheater) 5. McGuire (cheater) 4. Bonds (cheater) 3. Mexican Ntl. Soccer Team (cheaters) 2. Joe Montana (too damn good) 1. OJ
posted by tselson at 03:40 PM on January 25, 2006
10. Colin Montgomerie 9. Romo 8. Claude Lemeiux 7. Kobe 6. Schilling 5. TO 4. Clemens 3. Isiah Thomas 2. Bill Laimbeer 1. OJ
posted by willthrill72 at 03:54 PM on January 25, 2006
Honorable mention....Jeff Gordon
posted by willthrill72 at 04:00 PM on January 25, 2006
1. T.O 2. Eli Manning 3. Barry Bonds 4. Kobe Bryant 5. Mickey Mantle 6. Dennis Rodman 7. Darryl Strawberry 8. Dale Earnhart Sr. (when he was alive) 9. Rick Flair 10.The Vick Brothers
posted by nowandthen at 04:02 PM on January 25, 2006
A lot of the guys y'all want to add are retired (Rodman, Strawberry, Ripken, Brett, Thomas, Lemieux, Simpson, etc.) or even dead (Mantle, Earnhardt). I assume the article about most hated pro athletes means those still actively participating, instead of most hated of all time. If you want most hated of all time, then wouldn't Ty Cobb top the list?
posted by graymatters at 04:11 PM on January 25, 2006
mrhockey, sport Pronunciation (spôrt, sprt) n. 1. a. Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively. b. A particular form of this activity. 2. An activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively. 3. An active pastime; recreation. nuff said.
posted by Steeler_Fan at 04:15 PM on January 25, 2006
Carl Everett Shockey Rocker Jason Williams Palmeiro Schilling Romonowski Reggie White Vijay Singh Pete Sampras
posted by cl at 04:16 PM on January 25, 2006
I'll think about my list, but I know that the jerk-off, crybaby, Bill Romanowski will be up there. If Denver is such a class organization, why did they keep him so long? Trust me on this -- he would have been sent packing if he played on the Steelers. It is amazing what owners will put up with in hopes of a championship
posted by Claremore Rancher at 04:21 PM on January 25, 2006
Reggie White?
posted by willthrill72 at 04:23 PM on January 25, 2006
C'mon mate, Leyton Hewitt? I knew his antics had to be bothering other guys on tour. The surprise is the lack of Artest. Some of these guys are just unbelievable. The bass guy doesn't belong on the list.IMO anyone who refers to themselves in the third person should be on this list. Schilling is the guy who I am glad made the list and I hope more people see what a phoney he is. Mr. Big Mouth self promoting jackass.
posted by chuck'n'duck at 04:34 PM on January 25, 2006
why isnt geoirge steinbrenner on the list?Phil Michelson is the top of the list,he won a $600,000 Super bowl bet and tipped the writer of the ticket $20.00VJ just aN AROGANT MALE CHAUVONIST
posted by artyc at 04:34 PM on January 25, 2006
Chicobangs thanks for your list. I never knew all of those guys shared the same middle name! I still can't understand why Ron Artest isn't on there.
posted by Ying Yang Mafia at 04:35 PM on January 25, 2006
Why isn't Vlade Divac included?
posted by pepitothechihuahua at 04:38 PM on January 25, 2006
When I first saw this post I knew it was going to be active. We could go on for days on this. chico- it must be the middle name. This is going to be fun.
posted by chuck'n'duck at 04:43 PM on January 25, 2006
9. Rick Flair Too damn funny. Oddly enough, there is no mention of Pete Rose or Randy Moss. Everyone seems to have such a strong opinion about what Pete and Randy have done. Just goes to show that people hate the crybaby type athletes more than the unethical types. Its like saying being unethical doesn't bother you that much, but being a big mouth crybaby does. For example, T.O hasn't committed any crimes or been arrested at all and he is very high on the lists. To the contrary Pete Rose and Randy Moss have been unethical, dishonest, and arrested respectively. I think this proves that we as society will put up with unethical, dishonest, and illegal behavior (Moss, Rose), but we HATE a big mouth crybaby that hasn't gambled on his sport, smoked weed, driven down the street with a metermaid strapped to his bumper, or committed any type of act that is deemed illegal. Does this mean we hate arrogance more than illegal activity?
posted by BlogZilla at 04:47 PM on January 25, 2006
Reggie White????
posted by meanjorge at 04:51 PM on January 25, 2006
yep, Reggie White
posted by cl at 04:53 PM on January 25, 2006
sport Pronunciation (spôrt, sprt) n. 1. a. Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively. b. A particular form of this activity. 2. An activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively. 3. An active pastime; recreation. Pro Wrestling fits this category perfectly. I might be bias I used to be an aspiring pro wrestler. Check out my head shot.
posted by HATER 187 at 04:53 PM on January 25, 2006
As a Yankee fan and a former resident of Bergen County, New Jersey, I have heard that one of the most disliked Yankees is none other than Yogi Berra. From personal observation and stories I have heard from people who knew him, he is a tightfisted sponge, using his rep to get free drinks,meals, etc. I believe he belongs on that list.
posted by ancientfan at 04:59 PM on January 25, 2006
Steeler_Fan: You're too new to remember all the sport vs not a sport discussions we've had (come back forks!). Turning to the dictionary won't get everyone on the same page (har). There is loads of grey area. People couldn't even agree on when the second millenium started. You think they can agree on whether a fat guy with a fishing pole is an athlete?
posted by gspm at 05:23 PM on January 25, 2006
I was surprised Yogi wasn't on the list myself. Thats a great story about Piersynski...I always heard he was a dick, but now I like him better. Talk about your snappy answers to stupid questions. How can Michael Iaconnelli not be #1 is what I want to know. Since the list of annoying people is played, heres my top 5 list of annoying teams: 5 1989 Detroit Pistons 4 All Laker teams with Kobe and Rodman 3 Tie 1985 Chicago Bears and 1986 NY Mets 2 2004 New York Rangers 1 2004 Boston Red Sox (jerseygirl - its just the internet) This was tougher than it looks...thats why its a list of 5.
posted by sfts2 at 05:30 PM on January 25, 2006
10. Snuggle Fabric Softener Teddy Bear 9. Jim Rome 8. Lindy Ruff 7. Mark McGwire 6. Mr. Bearded Family Man in the Canadian Tire Commercials 5. Scott Feschuk 4. The Dutch guy from ING 3. Vincent Lamar Carter 2. Carl Lewis 1. (In a landslide) Tim McCarver! No way Greg Maddux ever makes a list like this. If he did, the magazine offices would be burned down, the writer would be killed, his parents killed, his friends killed, people who owed him money killed.... I heard someone say he was Turkish...
posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 05:31 PM on January 25, 2006
Robbie Savage needs to be in that list.
posted by afx237vi at 05:31 PM on January 25, 2006
How about an all-asshole baseball team? SP: Clemens RP: Rocker C: McCarver 1B: Palmeiro 2B:Kent SS:A-Rod 3B; Pete Rose LF: Barry Balco CF: Ty Cobb RF: Jose Canseco
posted by Bury Bonds at 05:34 PM on January 25, 2006
Lleyton Hewitt, as noted in the article, is even hated in his own country. One senior journalist on the country's leading daily consistently refers to him as 'Little Lleyton' which I hope gets up his nose. As it's Australia Day here, my list of 5 would be: 1. Lleyton 2. Shane Warne 3. Greg Norman 4. Nathan Buckley (AFL), and 5. Jana Pittman's knee. JJ or some other golf nut out there - isn't Nick Faldo ahead of people like Montgomerie, Mickelson or Singh? And chico - which Ronaldo? The Man Utd one I'd agree with, the Real Madrid one I have not hated since Suzanna Werner dumped him.
posted by owlhouse at 05:48 PM on January 25, 2006
gspm............I know we will never agree on everything (that's what makes life interesting) just putting it out there for all, and the word athlete isn't what I was posting. I was referring to mr hockey comparing pro wrestling to Nascar which is absurd. Also, hater187 the key word is 'competitively'. Pro Wrestling is not competitive, the outcome is predetermined.
posted by Steeler_Fan at 05:49 PM on January 25, 2006
Regardless of public perception Barry will be remembered in 100yrs as the best of the last 50yrs. 1.Muhammed Ali; 2.Steve Yzerman; 3.Tim Wallach; 4.Michael Jordan; 5.Mario Lemieux; 6.Jerry Rice; 7.Bret Favre; 8.Barry Bonds; 9.Tom Brady; 10.Dominik Hasek. Sorry I'm a lover not a hater but I couldn't keep my mouth shut. I love top ten lists, and these would be my favs. Make love not war, PEACE.
posted by northern76 at 05:51 PM on January 25, 2006
NJsk8r, thanks for the names Id forgotten. Being a Flyers fan, we hate all those guys equally.
posted by GoBirds at 06:21 PM on January 25, 2006
Ben Wallace ?? Ben Wallace is one of the most liked players on and off the court and the TOP selling Pistons jersey on a team that just won a marketing award for their merchandising sales . Rasheed? Maybe YOU don't like Rasheed but Detroiters have embraced him and his repuation has changed for the better . Maybe you come from a ciy that keeps getting dumped on by Rasheed and Ben .
posted by alvinthefirst at 06:39 PM on January 25, 2006
First, I'd like to thank everyone for helping me to see that Maddux is something of an insane criminal genius. Now, help me understand what behaviors Tom Brady has exhibited that make him worthy of making it on to so many "most hated" lists. Does he, like Maddux, make it a habit to kill and eat any kittens he happens to find?
posted by Joey Michaels at 06:40 PM on January 25, 2006
Steelers_Fan: I know you weren't talking about athlete, you defined sport for us. But those discussion we've had (check 'em out, they are interesting) referred to people deciding if they thought something was a sport and whether they thought athletes are participants. In those discussions people sometimes split their votes both ways. I didn't mean to come across as criticizing you. But I do like picturing pro wrestlers wedged into Nascar cockpits. All that mullet hair flopping out of the back of the helmet.
posted by gspm at 06:51 PM on January 25, 2006
Honorable mention: Peyton Manning, Great regular seaon QB but chokes in the post seaon, and it's NEVER his fault. Oh yeah i forgot like Joey Porter said "he's the poster boy for the league". All lot of people ripping on Brady, Peyton has never won anything and is always crying. i still can't believe that stuff about maddux, is there anywhere on the web i can read up on that stuff??
posted by chuy at 07:18 PM on January 25, 2006
if we're going way back, Bob Feller has to be in there too. I met him at a ballgame in 1997 and he was a total prick to everyone.
posted by erkno11 at 07:23 PM on January 25, 2006
I thought I was the only one who hated that fucking Snuggle Bear. Actually, I fear that damn thing. It's pure evil. I'd like to smash it's furry little body with a hammer until his evil little stuffing comes out.
posted by Desert Dog at 07:32 PM on January 25, 2006
What's the deal? I scrolled through seven pages of sports drivel regarding the most hated athletes in sports and nowhere did I find the mention of the most distasteful person in all of sports, Sammy "I am sorry" Sosa. He said he was sorry when he got caught corking his bat and uttered the same after failing to cut out the heart of Rod Barahas as B,Rod tagged him out at home plate during the past season. Second place goes to the Major League management buttwipes who failed to even recognize Sosa's "gesture" as the most classless in all of sports. On the subject of classless in sports, I feel better that Bill Romanowski was mentioned.
posted by Bud Lang at 07:54 PM on January 25, 2006
He's beloved by a lot of people (for no reason other than two obvious ones-his name and his looks), but no one has mentioned his name so far for the fact that he is equally despised, mainly for his not winning and for his habit of blaming things on crew chief, oh, and also the fact that so many people love him: Dale Earnhardt, Jr?
posted by Bonkers at 08:21 PM on January 25, 2006
Of course, this is pretty much specific to North America in general and the United States in particular. I doubt most Irishmen give two shits about Curt Schilling, but a goodly number would have any number of unpleasant things to say about Kevin Mealamu. Not as many as English rugby fans, whose hatred for all things New Zealand leads them to suddenly love Irish players, but that's another matter... What about David Beckham? Or Wayne Rooney? Or Lay-down Sally? Or Di Canio?
posted by rodgerd at 08:22 PM on January 25, 2006
How about Joe Buck, Tim McCarver, Scooter the talking ass, and the rest of the Fox baseball broadcast squad? The MoundCam may be the most worthless invention in the history of the universe. Not really players, but since we are off subject, I want to rant.
posted by fatfryar at 08:37 PM on January 25, 2006
Too friggin funny they are all a bunch of spoiled jackasses. Haven't seen a name yet the didn't belong on the list. Don't forget Kyle Busch and about3/4 of the guys leaving school early ie flunking out to enter the draft because theyve got the skills right MO.
posted by thatch at 08:54 PM on January 25, 2006
9. Jim Rome posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 5:31 PM CST on January 25 Man, how could I forget that asshole!
posted by willthrill72 at 10:03 PM on January 25, 2006
gspm, no criticism taken, and I read a lot of those posts. You are right they are pretty interesting. :o)
posted by Steeler_Fan at 10:17 PM on January 25, 2006
If you want to get to Hall of Famer Bob Feller, you have to go through Reggie Jackson first.
posted by BullpenPro at 10:26 PM on January 25, 2006
while we're at it, top ten things i hate. 10.cable going out when im watching a game/fcc blackout restrictions 9.coaches not doing what i tell them to do via yelling at the TV 8.a player i hate consistently doing well when i wish he would sprain his ankle 7.the camera man showing a hot cheerleader for a split second,then never showing her again 6.a crowd of fans for the other team singing "na na na na hey hey hey goodbye" after they won the playoff series 5.a missed penalty call 4. a homer play by play anounncer 3. an athlete looking for a flag/call every damn time they don't make a play 2. an athlete dancing like he just saved earth from destruction after he makes a routine play that has no bearing on the outcome of the game 1. why has philidelphia teams had to face repeat dynasty teams in the finals/playoffs for the past 25 years; flyers(gretzky's edmonton oilers/yzermans detroit red wings) eagles( brady's new england patriots) sixers(shaq's LA Lakers/MJ's chicago bulls) Hatred honorable mention: All bench players on good teams getting rings when Stockton, Malone, Barkley, Ewing,....etc don't have 1
posted by BlogZilla at 10:33 PM on January 25, 2006
Ok what the heck did Vijay Singh ever do to anyone. This is a serious hater topic, your all haters. Ben Wallace whats wrong with Big Ben. He's ugly and needs a hair cut, but if you live in Detroit in playoff season. He becomes a GQ model Can we get a synonomous leave OJ alone on three. The brother was aquitted and this isnt 1930 Alabama so aquitted means he didnt do it. And who ever met a superstar sports athlete without more ego than personality. Who would like Charles Barkely if he was a "nice guy" Yuk, I want the trash talking man. But then sit down and shake your opponents hand. Bill Lambeer was a dirty mean player, but big Bills a grand daddy now. Its the game and if any of you were anything more than a bunch of arm chair limp wristed critics you would know about having a game face or badass attitude because thats what gives the guy the EDGE. Or else you wouldnt pay money to see him. Yea Kobe's an idiot did I appreciate his 81 yes, is he still an idiot yes. Do I care no. Unless he rapes my maid. HEE HEE
posted by hoopwisdom at 10:36 PM on January 25, 2006
If you put Artest on the list then you have to take Bonzi off.....cant have all the bad boys in SAC.
posted by Norcaldiscglfr at 10:41 PM on January 25, 2006
we get a synonomous leave OJ alone on three. The brother was aquitted and this isnt 1930 Alabama so aquitted means he didnt do it Actually, acquitted means they couldn't prove guilt
posted by willthrill72 at 10:47 PM on January 25, 2006
The only thing I hate about athletes is when they believe that membership in the NBA , NFL or winning a boxing title. Qualifys them to be a rapper. Anybody buy Oscar De la hoya's new Cd. COME ON!!! Now that offends me.
posted by hoopwisdom at 10:50 PM on January 25, 2006
No aquitted means the law says he is innocent. Remember innocent until proven guilty,dont make me resurrect Johnnie Cockran for this discussion. I got Jesus
posted by hoopwisdom at 10:52 PM on January 25, 2006
Its the game and if any of you were anything more than a bunch of arm chair limp wristed critics you would know about having a game face or badass attitude because thats what gives the guy the EDGE. SportsFilter: 6000 members, and only one that's not an arm chair limp wristed critic. What are the odds? This is a serious hater topic, your all haters. And you're right to hate us for it.
posted by BullpenPro at 11:16 PM on January 25, 2006
Or Lay-down Sally Only hated by the other 7 (plus 1) on the boat. No-one else gives a shit anymore. Or Di Canio Agreed.
posted by owlhouse at 11:38 PM on January 25, 2006
Since you have Jesus sitting there with you why don't you lean over and ask him why he didn't think it was a good idea to give you more common sense?
posted by willthrill72 at 11:43 PM on January 25, 2006
A Red Sox Fan's Top 10 All-Time Yankee Assholes 10. Jorge Pain in the Ass Posada 9. Jason Masking-Agent Giambi 8. Mickey Muthafuckin' Rivers 7. John Asswipe Sterling 6. Tag-team assholes Jeff No Nuts Nelson and Karim the C- U- N(ext)T(uesday) Garcia. 5. Reggie Figjam* Sheffield (*Fuck I'm Good - Just Ask Me) 4. George Gordon Gecco Steinbenner 3. Thurmon I Hope He's-in-Hell Munson 2. Lip-Gloss Nancy Boy,(Ass-Rod) 1. Bucky Fuckin' Dent
posted by rockamora at 11:55 PM on January 25, 2006
You know whats funny. People formed an opinion that OJ was guilty from what they saw on TV. The burden of proof was on the prosecution. If a person commits murder, it cant't be that hard to prove. I'm not saying he's guilty or innocent. I think he paid somebody to do it (in my humble opinion). But they tried to prove he was there, and it didn't work. I'm just curious, Willthrill72 do you think Robert Blake is guilty? Rockamora, I think Chicobangs should take you to court for copyright infringment.
posted by BlogZilla at 12:31 AM on January 26, 2006
absolutely
posted by willthrill72 at 02:14 AM on January 26, 2006
10 John "Flopping" Stockton 9 John "cameo" Macinroe 8 Kobe "ball hog" Bryant 7 Phil "i just look like an ass" Mickelson 6 Phil "hellspwan" Hellmuth 5 George "lucifer" Steinbrener 4 Emelio "mighty duck" Estevez 3 Terrel "God complex" Owens 2 Barry "Big Mouth" Bonds 1 Shooter "f'n" McGavin
posted by texastud04 at 03:15 AM on January 26, 2006
As a loyal Giants fan, I have to protest the Barry Bonds selection. I'm sure he comes off as egotistical, short with the press, or a pain in the ass sometimes. However, he is arguably the best player ever in baseball history, so he deserves to have some ego. I don't think his ego is over blown. Second he is the victim of more "yellow" journalism than anyone I have seen in some time. Who can blame him for being a occaisionally short tempered with the press. I know if I were in his place, I would have a hard time dealing with all of the negative comments directed his way. He is clean cut. He is hard working. He gives his best when he is on the field. He seems to try to be a good father to his kids. And best of all he is a loyal Giant fan and San Franciscan himself. Remember he turned down more money (perhaps almost double his salary) to stay in San Francisco. There are a lot of good traits about this guy.
posted by edlwhite at 04:45 AM on January 26, 2006
No Bryan Marchment or Darius Kasparaitis? This list is bull...
posted by MeatSaber at 07:12 AM on January 26, 2006
Steeler fan, I'd love to know which dictionary you divulged your 'active recreation' tidbit with, because my three dictionaries and thesaurus listings alike do not include any mention of sports being non-athletic. But I won't hold my breath waiting to hear a rational explanation, merely more idiotic crap about poker and NASCAR being sports.
posted by mrhockey at 07:22 AM on January 26, 2006
lest we forget: 1. derek jeter 2. TO 3. payton manning 4. AROD 5. randy moss 6. roger clemens 7. tim duncan 8. tiger woods 9. barry bonds 10. rafael palmiero
posted by swi at 07:53 AM on January 26, 2006
Keven Mealamu...?!?! One of the most hated? I don't think so, he's one of the quietest and most soft-spoken rugby players in the world. The only people that have a bad thing to say about him are British armchair critics who never played the game. If you can find one -- just one -- professional rugby player that has played with-or-against Mealamu that has anything bad to say about him, I'll publish a story about it, 'cos it's news to me. Everyone acknowledges Mealamu is a little battleship who punches above his weight, that he sacrifices everything and plays hard, but at the end of the day his opponents respect him as a fair and clean player. I don't know that we've even seen his temper raised on a playing field. Maybe you're thinking about Danny Grewcock or Simon Shaw or former Australian rugby league international John "fingers" Hopoate.
posted by the red terror at 07:56 AM on January 26, 2006
Pete Rose
posted by Bill Lumbergh at 08:00 AM on January 26, 2006
My#1 for extreme sports goes to Bam Margera.
posted by njsk8r20 at 08:03 AM on January 26, 2006
SWI: Derek Jeter #1? Please tell me one thing - anything - Jeter has done that makes him more "hated" than any other athlete on the planet... because you have some pretty worthy candidates on your list that are sitting under him. Even the Yankee-hating Red Sox fan didn't put Jeter in his top 10. I'm gonna have to call you on that. And, when you're done, you probably should explain Duncan and Woods, too. Did you just list the first 10 athletes that popped into your head?
posted by BullpenPro at 08:09 AM on January 26, 2006
#1 for player turned announcer/analyst: Tony Siragusa - is it just me or does he say "when I won the SB with Ravens..." every game.
posted by njsk8r20 at 08:20 AM on January 26, 2006
1 Shooter "f'n" McGavin Probably my favorite one thus far.
posted by willthrill72 at 08:26 AM on January 26, 2006
yea, right - i just happened to look through the latest sports headlines & pick names randomly, not knowing anybody on the list. if you're a mets fan, you'll know where i'm coming from. the rest of 'em i'm just sick of looking at, year after year - but i guess you could interpret that as some twisted form of flattery, if that makes you feel any better.
posted by swi at 08:27 AM on January 26, 2006
1 Shooter "f'n" McGavin You're in big trouble, texastud04, he eats pieces of shit like you for breakfast...
posted by MeatSaber at 09:07 AM on January 26, 2006
posted by Bill Lumbergh at 09:17 AM on January 26, 2006
The Gorman Thomas look-alike in Major League 1 and Jack Parkman in Major League 2
posted by erkno11 at 10:06 AM on January 26, 2006
lest we forget: 1. derek jeter 2. TO 3. payton manning 4. AROD 5. randy moss 6. roger clemens 7. tim duncan 8. tiger woods 9. barry bonds 10. rafael palmiero Can I ask, after looking at this list, why you included names such as Jeter, Manning, ARod, Clemens, Duncan and Woods? Understand, HATE is a pretty strong word, so just because a guy plays for a team you don't like, or you're jealous because he wins too much or makes too much money, then I think the appropriate title for much of your list is "Athletes I Don't Like, But Would Like If They Played For My Team (or gave me some of their money)."
posted by dyams at 10:08 AM on January 26, 2006
Can I ask, after looking at this list, why you included names such as Jeter, Manning, ARod, Clemens... ? Fan of Boston teams?
posted by jerseygirl at 10:37 AM on January 26, 2006
Steeler fan, I'd love to know which dictionary you divulged your 'active recreation' tidbit with, because my three dictionaries and thesaurus listings alike do not include any mention of sports being non-athletic. But I won't hold my breath waiting to hear a rational explanation, merely more idiotic crap about poker and NASCAR being sports. mrhocky, here is your idiotic answer (some people just have to resort to name calling when someone disagrees with them) The Free Dictionary By the way, I never said poker was a sport, it is a game. :o)
posted by Steeler_Fan at 11:02 AM on January 26, 2006
my reason for disliking bonds goes beyond his alleged cheating or general assholery. he charges $1000+ for autographs, kids or not. regardless of whether his ego is well-deserved, even in the highest tier of celebrity, even a shred of humility would be something. that's worthy of the #1 spot (although that would land a-rod near the top as well).
posted by ninjavshippo at 11:41 AM on January 26, 2006
my reason for disliking bonds goes beyond his alleged cheating or general assholery. Plus, can't I just hate people (or entire teams, regardless of personnel, like the Dallas Cowboys or NY Yankees) for no rational reason anymore? What is this world coming to? If I have to go and find a reason or make one up for everyone I hate its only going to make me hate them even more.
posted by chris2sy at 12:02 PM on January 26, 2006
I agree, chris2sy. It is not like we hate our next-door neighbor for no reason (usually). But, a professional athlete? If we can love them for dumb reasons, then we should certainly be able to hate them without any rational justification whatsoever!
posted by bperk at 12:26 PM on January 26, 2006
I hate them when they're really good and have that faux humbleness deal. Or when they're really bad (comparatively) and think they're really good. Or when they're really, really good and really, genuinely nice and I'm not given a rational option of hating them. Then I REALLY hate them. Stupid perfect people better than me.
posted by WeedyMcSmokey at 12:34 PM on January 26, 2006
mcstan13 calling oj a murderer is like calling Kobe a rapist...neither was found guilty....so it's not fair to either one of them....oh, who are we kidding, we all know they both did it
posted by Red at 12:35 PM on January 26, 2006
there was a hell of a lot more evidence against OJ. -- no, i'm not just rationalizing cuz i have KB on my fantasy team ;) i was going to post a list of my own, but chicobangs "fucking" list hit a bunch of them. go Bonds! can't wait till he passes Ruth. Can I ask, after looking at this list, why you included names such as Jeter, Manning, ARod, Clemens... ? Clemens is one of the biggest assholes ever.
posted by mrgrimm at 01:22 PM on January 26, 2006
sixers(shaq's LA Lakers/MJ's chicago bulls) And now they have to deal with the Pistons. Can't say I'm complaining.
posted by Ying Yang Mafia at 02:07 PM on January 26, 2006
How about Varitek. I can't stand him because he's not man enough to take off his mask after he throws a punch. Also he wears that stupid C on his jersey. Talk about an ass. You don't see Jeter out there going look at me I have a C on my jersey. I'm the captain.
posted by jtrluva at 02:46 PM on January 26, 2006
NUMBER ONE: LEBRON JAMES WHO THINKS HE IS THE NEXT JORDAN TWO: KOBE WHO THINKS HE IS THE GREATEST THREE: YOU DECIDE
posted by siouxhocky at 03:18 PM on January 26, 2006
NUMBER ONE: LEBRON JAMES WHO THINKS HE IS THE NEXT JORDAN I'm pretty sure James hasn't said anything like that. TWO: KOBE WHO THINKS HE IS THE GREATEST Do you have a quote where he says that? THREE: YOU DECIDE Oh, I've already made a decision about your comment...
posted by grum@work at 03:30 PM on January 26, 2006
oh, yeah, lebron took the THE NUMBER 23 GRUM. AND HE DID THAT ON PURPOSE CUZ HE THINKS HES GOOD, WHICH HE IS. BUT NOT ONE OF THE BEST IN THE NBA RIGHT NOW
posted by siouxhocky at 03:37 PM on January 26, 2006
"BUT NOT ONE OF THE BEST IN THE NBA RIGHT NOW"
Please watch your caps lock. Thank you.
And, in reply to your comment; ahem. posted by redsnare at 03:45 PM on January 26, 2006
Karl Malone should be included in the list somewhere. His defense consisted of hacking away at players arms and throwing elbows at peoples skulls- although he did get away with most of it. Yet he would fall down violently when a guy like Mugsy Bogues made contact with him- and often times got the call in his favor. Some might call him smart and crafty, but he should go down as one of the cheapest and dirtiest players of all time. Great player though.
posted by Red at 04:57 PM on January 26, 2006
If you can find one -- just one -- professional rugby player that has played with-or-against Mealamu that has anything bad to say about him, I'll publish a story about it,Brian O'Driscoll. I mean, I think BOD is a whiny, hypocritical, eye-gouging bitch, but he definitely has plenty bad to say about Umaga and Mealamu.
posted by rodgerd at 08:14 PM on January 26, 2006
oh, yeah, lebron took the THE NUMBER 23 GRUM. AND HE DID THAT ON PURPOSE CUZ HE THINKS HES GOOD, WHICH HE IS. BUT NOT ONE OF THE BEST IN THE NBA RIGHT NOW I'm pretty sure that everyone that wears the number of a player they watched as a kid immediately assumes that he's as good as them. I'm sure it has nothing to do with honour, respect, and admiration.
posted by grum@work at 09:53 PM on January 26, 2006
Since you have Jesus sitting there with you why don't you lean over and ask him why he didn't think it was a good idea to give you more common sense? posted by willthrill72 at 11:43 PM CST on January 25 Oh willy you picked the wrong guy to have a battle of wits with my friend. YOU just entered a gun fight with a wet condom. I was looking at the name willthrill. And I was being nice because Im new here. But does this mean will thrill in seventy 72 different positions. Is this a proposition because this is a sports chat and not a a date room. OR is 72 your IQ regardless of the answer. I believe my sense was intact regarding my rebuttal to you statement. < strong>Actually, acquitted means they couldn't prove guilt posted by willthrill72 at 10:47 PM CST on January 25 Now thrilla this is not a true statement. Lets be nice I just got here and this is a nice chat lets be friends OK stupid. wink. Leave Jesus out of it. He told me to warn you. Go raptors
posted by hoopwisdom at 10:05 PM on January 26, 2006
Lets be nice I just got here and this is a nice chat lets be friends OK stupid. You have a great way of making friends. I guess in your world all innocent people are acquitted and all guilty people are convicted. No one is wrongly imprisoned and no one gets away scot free. Nice world you're living in. How 'bout this? You continue to make your idiotic, illinformed suppositions illustrating just what a wet rubber you are and from this point forward I will choose to ignore you. mmmkay?
posted by willthrill72 at 12:26 AM on January 27, 2006
10. T.O. (I don't even mind him that much but he is kind of an asshole) 9. Randy Moss 8. Vijay Singh 7. Ron Artest 6. Todd Bertuzzi (The king of all cheap-shot artists) 5. J.J. Redick 4. Kobe Bryant 3. Derek Jeter 2. Peyton Manning 1. A-Rod
posted by autzenrocker123 at 02:56 AM on January 27, 2006
Lacking anything else to write about, I posted the best of Maddux's crimes at one of the sites I write at. Honestly, you've all read it already. But I did try and cite proper authors!
posted by Joey Michaels at 03:20 AM on January 27, 2006
I posted the best of Maddux's crimes at one of the sites I write at I didn't see "sexually assaulted a bat boy with a fungo" on there...
posted by chris2sy at 10:28 AM on January 27, 2006
I can't read the "Chick-Fil-A" post by holden without getting a cramp. That gets my nomination for the single funniest SF post of 2005.
posted by BullpenPro at 10:34 AM on January 27, 2006
Hoop and Will, I hate to interject my little ol' opinion into your monumental battle of intellectual wargames. But in the interest of peace and good will towards men, and to save either of you from embarrassing yourselves, why don't you both accept the fact that each of you can have your own opinion about OJ. And also embrace the fact that neither of your opinions mean anything at all in reference to his guilt or innocence. You're both entitled to your opinion and that's it. Do either of you really want to showcase your wit by going back and forth about the OJ verdict of all things?
posted by BlogZilla at 04:16 PM on January 27, 2006
I'd view your link, but it didn't make it past WorkFilter.